First off, nullsec isn't completely blockaded. People set up ambushes on the most common routes (like what auto-pilot creates) but there are other routes. And as you noted yourself, wormholes are another way to get in. There are also several types of ships that have abilities to get you around most gate camps, and people do it everyday.

Also, lowsec isn't that bad. So long as you warp gate to gate in a reasonably quick and not too flashy ship, most people won't bother you.

Many complaints from nullsec dwellers have to do with the sov mechanics, and with limits placed on sov null (structure grinding, jump bridges, station services). Moving large fleets of large ships and grinding down sov structures is time consuming, and if the enemy just gives up, then there really isn't any action.

Aside from actual sov warfare, the rest of the fun is left up to the players, and not all sov holding alliances are the same. Many of these people should be crying at their alliance leadership and not at CCP for ways to have fun. Other alliances have no problem with the fun factor, and spend there efforts pestering CCP for balancing titans, materials and fixing other nullsec features.

The "nullsec is boring" argument is pretty dumb. Part of it is poor leadership not coming up with things to do. Part of it is outsiders looking in, highsec dwellers who don't know what to do on day-trips to nullsec. Only the part about structure grinding is really CCP's fault.

While not going into which parts I agree and disagree with. It is rather pointless having a member of the largest alliance in the game commenting on whether Null sec is boring or not. It is roughly the same as having a rich merchant banker recruited straight out of college commenting on poverty. It really doesn't work. Commenting on Sov changes Yes, on the boredom factor No.

There should be mechanics that cater to/benefit guerilla fighting and skirmishing, if only to give the sheep something to do while waiting for the next reinforcement timer/TiDi event.

While not going into which parts I agree and disagree with. It is rather pointless having a member of the largest alliance in the game commenting on whether Null sec is boring or not. It is roughly the same as having a rich merchant banker recruited straight out of college commenting on poverty. It really doesn't work. Commenting on Sov changes Yes, on the boredom factor No.

Oh ok I guess we should pack it up guys, ~FRYING DOOM~ has decided we can't talk about what life is like in the space we actually live in! Let's cede the discussion on the future of nullsec to pubbies who daytrip on occasion, surely they'll be able to tell us what's best for us!

Please enlighten us, oh former highsec dweller, on what needs fixing in nullsec.

Yes life in the largest alliance in the game with its 9130 members is probably not dull, but what about every person not in your alliance or one of the bigger ones?

Oh so your saying your opinion would not be as irrelevant as a member of the politburo's, evaluation of life for a soviet citizen was in the old USSR?

Yes life in the largest alliance in the game with its 9130 members is probably not dull, but what about every person not in your alliance or one of the bigger ones?

GTFO with your dumb analogies.



Who is left outside of the large alliances? I don't really care if the people who want to vacation in sov null find it interesting. I hope they find nothing to do except be chased by angry mobs, so they can go back to highsec and warn everyone how bad it is. Most of the people who come to our space are only here to snipe at us anyway, because WE are the content.


And players still have options like lowsec, npc null and wormholes, and those tend to favor small gangs more than space that currently requires large fleets of large ships to take and hold. Along with having no large numbers, most of the people crying that "null is boring" can't seem to articulate why they want to hold space and what they would do with it.

Sov null is for giant player made empires to duke it out, not some free fire zone for people bored of L4's.

Ask them. Pretending like our perspective is somehow irrelevant is pretty pathetic though, even for you.

Most of you have stated your opinion of life in null, in a big Alliance. Move on

You don't even live in null. You should edit every post you've made in this thread and replace it with "HI I'M A BIG DUMB. PS IF YOU TOOK ME SERIOUSLY GET HELP".

While not going into which parts I agree and disagree with. It is rather pointless having a member of the largest alliance in the game commenting on whether Null sec is boring or not. It is roughly the same as having a rich merchant banker recruited straight out of college commenting on poverty. It really doesn't work. Commenting on Sov changes Yes, on the boredom factor No.

GTFO with your dumb analogies.



Who is left outside of the large alliances? I don't really care if the people who want to vacation in sov null find it interesting. I hope they find nothing to do except be chased by angry mobs, so they can go back to highsec and warn everyone how bad it is. Most of the people who come to our space are only here to snipe at us anyway, because WE are the content.


And players still have options like lowsec, npc null and wormholes, and those tend to favor small gangs more than space that currently requires large fleets of large ships to take and hold. Along with having no large numbers, most of the people crying that "null is boring" can't seem to articulate why they want to hold space and what they would do with it.

Sov null is for giant player made empires to duke it out, not some free fire zone for people bored of L4's.

While we may be big, that doesn't change the fact that we've got quite a few initiatives to try to keep nullsec from being boring, and they don't involve big blobs or sov warfare. This is, incidentally, also things which smaller entities could do while basing out of, say, NPC nullsec or lowsec.

Just because we're from big alliances, doesn't mean we can't discuss a wide variety of topics.

Oh I perfectly agree with you but you engage in discourse. Some others just call other peoples ideas dumb, all the while saying everything is peachy.

Yes very well thought out and reasoned argument. I think the part where you said You don't care, really summed it up.

It would hope it did sum it up, but I'm sure it still went over your head.

And I can't wait for more sage wisdom from the guy who doesn't live here. All the people here that actually live in nullsec right now are just waiting for you to tell us how it really is. I'll just ignore the 5+ fleet adverts I got today, and forget that NCdot put bubbles and sniping ships on the VFK undock earlier, and not notice the notorious ganker in my system right now. Yup, nothing to do at all. Total snooze-fest. I might just evac all my stuff to highsec, since we were supposed to be kicked out of Dek months ago buy an alliance that doesn't exist anymore. Oh, if only nullsec wasn't so boring and static.

But really though it does seem like Goons are doing the things you want doing. They're easily the most pro-active 0.0 alliance when it comes to engaging new players into nullsec gameplay, they've fostered multiple smaller alliances into more or less worthwhile sov holders, they continually engage other game factions rather than just squatting in their space, and they agitate for game balance issues like Titan & Technetium rebalancing.

Incidentally, there are 0.0 alliances who aren't part of a massive bluebloc. They mostly live in NPC 0.0, but that's what NPC 0.0 is for. My own dear INITdot is one of them.

The titan nerf needed to be done because of botting and RMT that trashed the mineral market and made them easier to produce than was intended.

This wasn't the "titan nerf", this was the "drone region nerf". At least in relation to the minerals, I don't give a flying **** about botting or RMT, but I'm not sure the titan nerfs were done to combat that either.

I thought when the titans were introduced that they were supposed to be so rare due to amount of minerals required to build them that they believed that only a few would ever be in the game.

Completely different problem. The titans weren't nerfed to fix the botting/RMT which trashed the mineral market, they were "nerfed" because they were being used as oversized BS/dreads blapping everything. The mineral market was a result of the gunmining which the drone region had.

I meant I thought part of the nerf was because there were only meant to be a handful in the game and that they have proliferated because of bots and RMT.

The game is only as fun as you try to make it, the testies are down in delve right now, fighting not for space, but for the fun of it. Heck, they even reset some of their buddies so that they can have more stuff to shoot at for a while. Why? For the sake of having fun.

If you aren't in an alliance that will do that for you, then you need to find someone else to fly with.

Null isn't as boring or dull as you might think

null is the one place in eve where everything that you and your friends (read alliance) can do whatever they want without being bothered by concord or empire standings.

Sure, you won't be able to take on that 6000 man alliance and wrestle sov from them that easily with your 200 man corp, but if you could, then things would be a bit off wouldn't it? After all, that big alliance has put in a lot of work to get that many people together for the same ideals, and keeping it from falling apart is a nightmare in it's own right.

No one is wanting new or existing crap mechanics to be what a sov holder has to deal with. Invading AND defending should both be equally rewarding and fun. Who cares what new or existing mechanic is changed as long as it is not some yawn fest to deal with? I am for the removal of local in all space, but in the same stroke I want a new scanner/whatever introduced that is user friendly, not Excel crap, rewarding results that reflect the amount of effort put into using it. Above all it should be 0% - ZERO ******* PERCENT - boring! Who the hell wants to pay someone money to do something boring? No one wants boring!.

Removing local would increase the tedium factor of living in space by an order of magnitude. I don't know about you, but tedium isn't a good thing. I don't disagree at all about wanting to make things more exciting (or specifically, not boring), playing with issues of power projection, all of that is good. Removing local is far too scorched-earth, though, and the insistence of it happening by a very small amount of people is becoming little more than a repeated troll.

Food for thought for the next time you get upset about the level of discussion.