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Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.22 11:05:00 -
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The TV series Stargate SG1 and Stargate: Atlantis, are both spin offs/sequels of the movie Stargate, released in 1994.
The original film starred Kurt Russel and James Spader. The film was highly successful and was more related to mythology than science fiction/fantasy. The film was directed by Roland Emmerich, who went on to make Independence Day, that horrible remake Godzilla, and a very good movie called The Patriot.
Roland Emmerich and his writer Dean Devlin (who basically created Stargate), then sold the rights to MGM. Stargate got a cult following and lo' and behold a few years later a spin off series Stargate SG1 is made. This series only relation to the original movie is in name, cast, and concept only. While the film Stargate managed to avoid genre cliches, Stargate SG1 was full of them. The series completely butchered everything Dean Devlin envisioned.
I don't know why anyone could possibly like Stargate SG1 and Star Gate Atlantis. If you are a fan, please explain to me. The influences on the show were painfully obvious, and the whole "lore" behind the universe is pretty boring, and a complaint I've always had is that I could never take the show seriously because the acting was so stale. My main complaint however is that the original idea of Stargate is that travel between planets was only done with Stargates (the huge floating pyramid in the movie used a Stargate). The writers of the TV show decided to throw in genre cliches such as warp drives, spaceships. and many other things that were best left to be done by Star Wars or Star Trek.
Dean Devlin is now trying to retake control of his creation and create two new theatrical films that will ignore every horrible thing the television series did.
Anyway my point is if you are going to try and make a modern sci-fi show for the love of all that is holy make an effort in the special effects department because for the entire run of the series it felt like I was watching something from the 1980's (the reason this is a valid complaint is because MGM gave an estimated $1 million budget for each episode in SG1), which is why Battlestar Galactica Re-Imagined and the new Star Trek movie has given the science fiction genre a new lease on life. |
Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.22 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 Edited by: baltec1 on 22/06/2009 11:15:22 The only difference between star trek and stargate is the name and props. Generaly its the same old time travel/super weapon/save the crew member/funky illness/end of serise oh no whats next cliffhanger.
Here this guy has summed up what my wall of text says. |
Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.22 13:14:00 -
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The reason I mentioned BGS is because BGS from the beginning had jump drives.
Anyway in the film it isn't made exactly clear how that pyramid traveled, I assumed it was a Stargate of sorts. |
Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.22 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Quote: and the new Star Trek movie has given the science fiction genre a new lease on life
You actually had me until this point, then I realized you were trolling.
Ah, I was waiting for somebody to attack that. What I meant by that is that the new Star Trek movie has gotten more people interested into science fiction again.
Of course there are going to be the hardcore Star Trek fans who think the new Star Trek is a destruction of everything they hold dear, but it had to be done or the franchise would have died. |
Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.23 01:30:00 -
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Sorry but Stargate had pale humor compared to Firefly. |
Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.23 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin [ Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's. So yeah, I don't care for your opinion.
I'm the awesomest person alive. I was raised by wolves. |
Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.23 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Munchees
Originally by: Xen Gin [ Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's. So yeah, I don't care for your opinion.
I'm the awesomest person alive. I was raised by wolves.
If you were the 'awesomest' person alive you would have actually been raised by Wolverine, but alas no.
The reason I was raised by wolves is because Wolverine was my father but a day after I was born he abandoned me in the wild saying "I should stop being a baby and grow a pair".
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Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.23 02:30:00 -
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Edited by: Munchees on 23/06/2009 02:30:49
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Exactly, this is why you aren't.
But I grew a pair.
We are supposed to be talking about Stargate but this thread was silly to start with.
Yeah MacGyver was in Stargate I guess that was pretty cool. |
Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.23 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Munchees Edited by: Munchees on 23/06/2009 02:30:49
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Exactly, this is why you aren't.
But I grew a pair.
We are supposed to be talking about Stargate but this thread was silly to start with.
Yeah MacGyver was in Stargate I guess that was pretty cool.
Yeah, but the fact you had to was the downfall.
Also D-Railed!
This thread can't be officialy derailed until someone starts comparing somebody to the ****'s
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Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.23 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Luna Sistere
Originally by: Munchees this thread was silly to start with.
QFT
And I'm as much of a Firefly fan as the next person but how many seasons did it last compared to SG-1?
The only reason it was cancelled was because the shows airtimes were random. Every week it would be on at a different night/time, and FOX wouldn't advertise it. |
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