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Roisin Saoirse
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.05.30 16:51:00 -
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Arthainas wrote:Goons offer you death and dispair, Goons offer you chains and agony, Goons offer to drown your freedom in servitude.
I offer you hope, I offer you freedom, Brothers and Sisters listen to me, gather in flock. Mass together under one banner, a banner for freedom. A banner of change, a banner which shall blot out suns and darken worlds.
Together we can put an end to this, Together we can burn the Goons Empire to the ground.
Brothers and Sisters, a new dawn is at hand and the Goons end is nigh!
We are one, We are legion, We are The Collective! Uh huh.
Good luck to you guys in the tourney though. |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:00:00 -
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Alia Gon'die wrote:Why don't you take us into the "No-spin Zone"? Tell is what *really* happened.
Is it still possible for one person to dissolve an alliance?
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Amarrius Ibn Pontificus
Liberty Trident L I B E R T Y
4
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:01:00 -
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WTB crackers to go with this whine.
On a more serious note tho, why is everyone whining and acusing the goons of griefing when that's only a side effect of their profit making. And the only reason hulkageddon got extended was because the mineral prices didn't spike as expected and someone still has close to a trillion isk in what's now overpriced minerals. Once that situation is rectified, the event will then have served its purpose.
Now what I'd like to know is where are all the self proclaimed geniouses and financial gurus that failed to see this spike wouldn't happen because pubbies being pubbies would panic and dump into the market and cause all this to happen. And that joke is on Goonswarm. As for everything else, epic kudos! |
Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
514
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:03:00 -
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I would love to see a ravening horde of 10K+ players descend on Deklein in some form of barely-directed near-anarchy.
It would be the greatest thing this game has ever seen. |
Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
15
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:07:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:I would love to see a ravening horde of 10K+ players descend on Deklein in some form of barely-directed near-anarchy.
It would be the greatest thing this game has ever seen.
why don't you start one then? You know its not like goons appeared there with a magic blink without any sort of peopel STARTING to do stuff instead of sit in forums whining.
on aside note. DO i get extra bonus if I kill a barge using another barge that therefore dies to concord? Like double kill bonus? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
964
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:08:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:I would love to see a ravening horde of 10K+ players descend on Deklein in some form of barely-directed near-anarchy.
It would be the greatest thing this game has ever seen. It really would. Take rifters or other frigates, you should be able to cause some hav-
Uh well I guess we'd mostly just take a nap. But if you manage to kill a carrier or something (maybe even a titan) with 10,000 rifters on its killmail, I will be impressed ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
514
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:08:00 -
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Seishi Maru wrote:why don't you start one then? You know its not like goons appeared there with a magic blink without any sort of peopel STARTING to do stuff instead of sit in forums whining.
I'm actually mulling it over in my head right now...I think it just might be possible...
Not in any sustained way, of course, but as a one time event...just might be within the realm of reasonable possibility....
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1006
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:11:00 -
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Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:WTB crackers to go with this whine.
On a more serious note tho, why is everyone whining and acusing the goons of griefing when that's only a side effect of their profit making. And the only reason hulkageddon got extended was because the mineral prices didn't spike as expected and someone still has close to a trillion isk in what's now overpriced minerals. Once that situation is rectified, the event will then have served its purpose.
Now what I'd like to know is where are all the self proclaimed geniouses and financial gurus that failed to see this spike wouldn't happen because pubbies being pubbies would panic and dump into the market and cause all this to happen. And that joke is on Goonswarm. As for everything else, epic kudos!
I have posted my trades and I got out of the markets before they tanked. I am sorry if those "someones" got outplayed.
Nothing personal, just business.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Trendon Evenstar
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:14:00 -
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If they changed the name of this thread to RVB Supports Emergent Gameplay or Eve University supports Emergent Gameplay or Chribba or whatev, all you high sec fools would be fawning all over it. Goons are good for the game. Goons SAVED this terrible game.
Deal wiz it. |
Mylaya
DarkStar Industries Hangar 17
0
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:15:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I'll drink to that.
Lets hope ButtSwarm don't, from what i've seen he can't handle very many anyways... 2 can wonder lol. |
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Fireflyb1
Walden Enterprises
13
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:17:00 -
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Uranium 242 wrote:Fireflyb1 wrote:Sweet propaganda, carry me home... I will happily spend my time not killing mining ships :) You don't know what you are missing. Try it sometime. You'll understand.
You misunderstand. I will continue to NOT kill mining ships, because I don't like it and I am choosing to not follow this aimless propaganda :)
Sorry if this is hard to understand. |
Vladimir Vladimirovitch Putain
Remanaquie Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:19:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:Seishi Maru wrote:why don't you start one then? You know its not like goons appeared there with a magic blink without any sort of peopel STARTING to do stuff instead of sit in forums whining. I'm actually mulling it over in my head right now...I think it just might be possible... Not in any sustained way, of course, but as a one time event...just might be within the realm of reasonable possibility....
It is possible. But you'll die in a viking funeral.
By a friend's suggestion I got into the miner's chat and I'd strongly encourage all to do the same (more so if you're a potential ganker mwahahaha!). After 10 minutes there I got it why the Goons at large despise what they call pubbies. I don't think I'd fall in the cathegory but I sure am a carebear. But hell even I felt like killing* most of the morons posting in channel.
*- To any mods and back seat mods, by "killing" the author of this post really means podding, in a strictly ingame virtual sence. |
Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
514
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:25:00 -
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Vladimir Vladimirovitch Putain wrote:It is possible. But you'll die in a viking funeral.
Ya, it would quite literally have to be a barely-directed anarchy of t1 ships relying solely on the power of numbers, and no one should expect to get back outside of the pod express. |
Jeniam Retriat
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:27:00 -
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Misanth wrote:Jeniam Retriat wrote:Misanth wrote:No, mining needs to be made more fun, inter-active and profitable.
But miners also need to HTFU, move to low-/nullsec/WH (if they want profits! highsec is for noobs and traders), and realise they can't dictate their gameplay on others.. and think they can use their best endgame vessels 'safely' in highsec. Well, everyone else gets to, so you can see where we got the idea from. I'd love to move my supercaps to highsec, please tell me how I do it? Mining frigate > mining cruiser > barges > exhumers. Then of course they have their logistic/support/industrial line too. Combat pilots is far from similar, you don't go bigger and bigger size, for example. My most used combat ships are cruiser (recon, t3) and frigate (dictor, ceptor) hulls. You can't even clearly say something is 'best'. But the most powerful ones, without a doubt, is the supercaps, and while we can/do use them in PvE.. they can't enter high. Neither can regular caps. Miners are spoiled and can use their 'capital ship' (exhumers) line in highsec. That's a mistake CCP did and should correct, exhumers should be low-/nullsec/WH only, just like the capital line is.
My comment was as much about people dictating gameplay as it was endgame ships.
Exhumers aren't the mining equivalent of caps and supercaps. Rorquals are. We can't use them in hisec. Go figure.
That aside, I'll buy into your crazy logic when you also petition that every other tech 2 ship should only be usable in null. No more missioners in Marauders farming ISK (if you want to use a broad definition of endgame, no more faction BS either), no more Incursion fleets with logistics support, no more covops scanners. We can all pootle around hisec in tech 1 ships, it'll be lovely. |
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus
Liberty Trident L I B E R T Y
5
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:28:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:Vladimir Vladimirovitch Putain wrote:It is possible. But you'll die in a viking funeral. Ya, it would quite literally have to be a barely-directed anarchy of t1 ships relying solely on the power of numbers, and no one should expect to get back outside of the pod express.
Well then, you may have a fair shot at it. If there's an alliance that's realy easy to outnumber it's Goons. |
Arthainas
Black Hand Templars The Veyr Collective
0
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:49:00 -
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Roisin Saoirse wrote:Arthainas wrote:Goons offer you death and dispair, Goons offer you chains and agony, Goons offer to drown your freedom in servitude.
I offer you hope, I offer you freedom, Brothers and Sisters listen to me, gather in flock. Mass together under one banner, a banner for freedom. A banner of change, a banner which shall blot out suns and darken worlds.
Together we can put an end to this, Together we can burn the Goons Empire to the ground.
Brothers and Sisters, a new dawn is at hand and the Goons end is nigh!
We are one, We are legion, We are The Collective! Uh huh. Good luck to you guys in the tourney though.
Oh we are going to get raped. Hell I don't even know who our team is. Oh well at least we can lit our torches from the flames of our ships. |
Korinth VonStradoniz
Gamma Rising Sun
0
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:07:00 -
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High sec mining is for sure a really lucrative activity. I practice it with great reluctance since it is not challenging nor exciting. Infinite hulkageddon may give the change.
Shall we have lots of fun in all ours clones lives. |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
249
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:15:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Surely if its effort free it should be nerfed like every other effort free activity in hi sec has been ?
Tal
Yet another one seems to be mad, bro!
Pathetic attempt at a troll. Unoriginal, boring, hardly worth the effort really,
Tal
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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
249
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:17:00 -
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Trendon Evenstar wrote:If they changed the name of this thread to RVB Supports Emergent Gameplay or Eve University supports Emergent Gameplay or Chribba or whatev, all you high sec fools would be fawning all over it. Goons are good for the game. Goons SAVED this terrible game.
Deal wiz it.
If any entity had come up with the bs excuse of creating emergent gameplay to descrive shooting things that don.t shoot back they would get the same treatment.
Goons saved this terrible game ???? 2 wrongs in such a short sentence, wow.
Tal |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
966
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:20:00 -
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Korinth VonStradoniz wrote:High sec mining is for sure a really lucrative activity. I practice it with great reluctance since it is not challenging nor exciting. Infinite hulkageddon may give the change.
Shall we have lots of fun in all ours clones lives. Hm. I'm not sure how serious you are about that statement. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Fatbottom Girl
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:26:00 -
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Korinth VonStradoniz wrote:High sec mining is for sure a really lucrative activity. I practice it with great reluctance since it is not challenging nor exciting. Infinite hulkageddon may give the change.
Shall we have lots of fun in all ours clones lives.
Nothing spices up a boring activity like the thrill of impending disaster. |
Red Rydah
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:33:00 -
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As an industrialist who makes ISK from the sale of ships, mods, and minerals, I support The Mittani's extension of the payout system. My fattened wallet thanks you, sir.
And to those about to whine about unfair gameplay, adapt, like I did.
RR |
Khadann
First Legion
21
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:37:00 -
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can we expect a large decrease in hulk price then?
I mean on the mid-long term, if players stop using hulks... |
Khadann
First Legion
21
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:38:00 -
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Red Rydah wrote:As an industrialist who makes ISK from the sale of ships, mods, and minerals, I support The Mittani's extension of the payout system. My fattened wallet thanks you, sir.
And to those about to whine about unfair gameplay, adapt, like I did.
RR
Do you mine? with which ship? :):) |
Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
16
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:42:00 -
[745] - Quote
Khadann wrote:Red Rydah wrote:As an industrialist who makes ISK from the sale of ships, mods, and minerals, I support The Mittani's extension of the payout system. My fattened wallet thanks you, sir.
And to those about to whine about unfair gameplay, adapt, like I did.
RR Do you mine? with which ship? :):)
Ibis with civilian mine laser. You cannot match the supplies of those! |
Trendon Evenstar
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:52:00 -
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Mine in a Rokh and quit cryin, jeez. |
Korinth VonStradoniz
Gamma Rising Sun
1
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:54:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Korinth VonStradoniz wrote:High sec mining is for sure a really lucrative activity. I practice it with great reluctance since it is not challenging nor exciting. Infinite hulkageddon may give the change.
Shall we have lots of fun in all ours clones lives. Hm. I'm not sure how serious you are about that statement.
I'm not the kind of guy who likes to lie down waiting inactive in its own ship. You can check that by yourself, may I invite you to some pub in the S-U8A4 system ? |
Red Rydah
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:02:00 -
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Khadann wrote:Red Rydah wrote:As an industrialist who makes ISK from the sale of ships, mods, and minerals, I support The Mittani's extension of the payout system. My fattened wallet thanks you, sir.
And to those about to whine about unfair gameplay, adapt, like I did.
RR Do you mine? with which ship? :):)
Okay, it's not my primary thing but I do mine. I can fly retrievers, covetors, and a scythe.
I do a lot of things. I like the market. I like to scan. I used to haul when I was a new player and my friend talked me into mission running now. I'm only doing it because it's better to mission with soneone else.
That's the problem with some people who complain. They just do one thing and don't bother trying other things. An event like Hulkageddon can be a good thing if it makes you try something new.
RR
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Octoven
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
2
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:03:00 -
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Red Rydah wrote:As an industrialist who makes ISK from the sale of ships, mods, and minerals, I support The Mittani's extension of the payout system. My fattened wallet thanks you, sir.
And to those about to whine about unfair gameplay, adapt, like I did.
RR
Not much of a sandbox when you are forced to adapt to someone's else's style of gameplay because it is what THEY want. Put it another way, EvE in 2007 was so awesome I never wanted to leave. Markets were great, players actually were honorable and fights were REAL fights, fairly fair. Eve was still dark, dont get me wrong, but null sec players understood the need for high sec and actually recruited from there. Get new players and wing them out to null to fight others.
2012, EvE has changed so much and yes while we have nicer graphics and more stuff to do, we have sacrificed much of the spirit of what made EvE what is is. We no longer have honorable fights, its **** you over and move on. Miners are treated as the backbones of society but more or less chew toys for dogs. Emergent gameplay? The only thing that is emerging from this style of gameplay is death. Not the death of a player but of a game.
Change is a constant, I realize games change and people change, but not all change is good either. Goons are doing what all humans do, take advantage of others. However, they should realize the consequences of their actions because like it or not all actions have a consequence.
If you wish to continue to bash miners and high sec fine. When this game is dead in 5 years you will just move on to another game to kill, but I love this game and would rather not see it die.
I understand your trying to get people in high sec to band together to take you on so you have more targets to shoot, but know this. People in high security space are there for a reason, they exist to mine, mission, and play eve in "realitive" peace. There is a delicate balance with this game and unfortunately you have ****** that balance up and the worst part is, you just dont ******* care.
Im in no way quiting, I am adapting by parking my hulk and running missions. Quite frankly it does no good to encourge others to do this because Goons still get to sell the minerals on market from their mining bots. Since there would be no other competition prices would still be soaring. So let us all just concede the fact that Goons now control EvE, you guys win. That is it, congratulations, you have dont the impossible. You have won in a game that isnt supposed to be winable. |
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
86
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:07:00 -
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we must protect our mining bot backbone at all costs, this is what this is all about
also any and every organization worth anything that believed in e-honor died because of it. hope that helps |
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