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Aristrat
Amarr SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.08.19 17:05:00 -
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Are the people that stupid or what?!
It's not matter that CCP wants to earn more money (of course they want), It is a matter of screwing their old player base to add new ones! Cause, you know, if they take away some of game content from me, which is btw very important to 0.0 players, just to blackmail me to pay for another game, or even worse to buy a xbox, than I will feel like they screwed me really nice. It is very simple...they will ruin my game content and make it poorer than it is now...not reacher as they claim it will be.
Dust could be the best concept for EVE further evolution and very nice game to play, but that has nothing to do with way they want to implement it and it's simply wrong.
Implement it on PC and as integral part of EVE online so we all can have some additional fun, and I will welcome Dust with its new player base (even if it's 10 years old). I don't want to pay for demo version of EVE online game (and this new version will be exactly that...incomplete game with parts lost in coding...err subscribing)
It's more fair to bring Jovians to sweep my sov than bunch of nerd raging teenagers. I obviously could not influence neither of them, but regarding Jovians...I could live with that... So I want to keep my right to fight those young nerds and be able to shape my own destiny in EVE...not only to watch hows things go by...
ONE UNIVERSE // ONE WAR // ONE SUBSCRIPTION
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.08.19 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Aalana There you have it. Plain and simple. CCP wants to expand it's player base, again, and make more $$$$.
What an unsual and suprising set of objectives for a buisiness! ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |
Atropos Kahn
Caldari Solarflare Heavy Industries Kahora Catori
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Posted - 2009.08.19 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Atropos Kahn on 19/08/2009 17:13:42 Any mechanic that allows me to throw ISK at FPS players to go take down the GOON and NC strangle hold in 0.0, I am all for... especially while I am ratting or spining in JITA...
How many systems do these mega alliances hold SOV?... Goons and NC will be spending all their time fending off the hords of REAL goons and consul *****s... and no amount of blob warfare will make the least amount of difference.
I think once this all kicks in, there will be more alliances holding 0.0 which is better for all EVE players...
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Generalissima
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.19 17:15:00 -
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It's poor business practice to "abandon the girl that got you there" (ie: existing PC customer base) to go chasing after that high maintenance supermodel that you probably can't get anyway, but that you know will be so much better in the sack if you can finally nail her.
SOE tried chasing after that elusive, casual, highly profitable, unsophisticated "target audience" back in 2005. It turned out it didn't exist. I don't think it exists here either, there is no evidence that proves that a market for a MMOFPS on console even exists.
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Orree
Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2009.08.19 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Aalana
Originally by: verde shrimp While everything involved in the decision to combine the worlds is ******ed adding to a player base is about the most standard thing ever.
Like usual someone from tri is being dumb and terrible.
/sighs about to try discuss something rationally with a Goon, what could go wrong?
Adding to player base is fine, I have no objection why do you think there are sooooo many EVE online banner ads out there? Why do you think EVE went on Steam? Why do you think they went to SO much effort to ban macroers and introduce PLEX system? Because ALL of this puts money into CCP's pocket.
AND THAT'S FINE!!!!
But where you **** over your core player base to make more $$$$ THAT is where I object. If it doesn't bother you, fine, but then again your alliance holds one of the richest R64 moon spaces in the game.
An opinion should be an expression of thought, not a continuation of your endless chestbeating.
I don't see that you've proven in any way that they have or even will "**** over (their) core player base to make more $$$$."
I agree that on the surface of it, it seems like a bit of a ****amamie idea. We simply do not know enough about how any of this will be implemented to get all bent out of shape the way you and others are doing.
---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |
fatherted1989
Red Horizon Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:06:00 -
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Lol @ OP
CCP isn't a charity you tool, it's a business. Businesses make money, it's really not hard to understand.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:16:00 -
[127]
drunk + posting = bad ;p
And like i said on corpchat earlier - i totally disagree and for me DUST is awesome idea and thats good move from CCP. As long as we dont have tons of "5 dolla DLCs" im up for it.
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Anslo
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:21:00 -
[128]
Can I have your stuff?
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:44:00 -
[129]
Breaking news: CCP, a corporation, is trying to make money! This amazing story brought to you by Aalana.
More details at 11.
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Ace2001
Caldari Steele-Moose Astrodynamics Research
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Posted - 2009.08.19 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Generalissima I don't think it exists here either, there is no evidence that proves that a market for a MMOFPS on console even exists.
Why wouldn't it? Would it not just be exactly like Halo but with much larger maps and larger number of poeople? (More targets to pew pew at!) Of course, this is assuming that CCP will not limit the number of people per world/game/map. Which they probably will, considering more people = more possible lag, etc.
Also, why aren't you banned from the forums yet? I'm sick of reading your constant negativity. :/
If I could afford one of the new consols, aswell as the online service for it, I would be getting this game. Because I love FPS games, though I have never played one on a consol before. (I pretty much only play RPG games and racing games on consols. With about 99% of the games being RPG.)
But, question to all of you that own an Xbox/Xbox360; I thought it was possible to use a mouse and keyboard with an xbox?
P.S. To all you nay-sayers out there; Did they not say this would only be ONE part of the Sov puzzle? What if there's 4 or 5 different pieces to the puzzle? Are you going to whine that you don't have that one piece, even though having all the other pieces still allows you to keep your sov/space?
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Amber Macx
Applied Physics Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.19 19:11:00 -
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The people going off half-****ed about a pre-rendered demo and some vague bullet points about the games' interoperability need to take a breath and calm down. |
Morvyn
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:47:00 -
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Tbh, making a second MMO alongside EVE where they both influence eachother is a badass idea. It would be ****ty if you HAD to play BOTH of them to be effective though. :(
Anyway, look on the bright side lolTRI: at least you guys won't have to worry about it either way, since you have no space to lose!
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Fortune Foru
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:55:00 -
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Oh great another game I will probably buy and then logon in once in a blue moon to play lol
However, The idea seems quite good. I plan to play both.
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Generalissima
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:57:00 -
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Hilmar sank to the level of John Smedley in my esteem. And my regard for "Teh Smed" is somewhere between a rat and a politician. With apologies to rats, which have actually made positive contributions to Humanity with their usefulness in medical research, unlike politicians OR Smed.
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ShadowMaiden
Amarr Divine Radiance
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Posted - 2009.08.19 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Aalana Edited by: Aalana on 19/08/2009 01:12:49 (To start a quote from the krawall.de interview with Hilmar, CCP's CEO). http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1153056
K: From all those things you could have added to Eve, why you decided for a console shooter? PTtursson: A shooter is from all game types the far[th]est from what is Eve. Exactly this is the reason. We wanted to do something completly different. We wanted a whole new group of players encounter the world of Eve and enrich it. This way we can let player that aren't interested in PC games take part in Eve Online.
There you have it. Plain and simple. CCP wants to expand it's player base, again, and make more $$$$.
In response a 0.0 EVE player can choose: 1. be armtwisted into either buying ANOTHER CCP game to have a direct say in 0.0 sov, 2. dump a ton of isk into NOT PLAYING EVE i.e. Pay mercs 3. letting go of your 0.0 space or plans to conquer it.
At best this looks like a rough deal and at worst blackmail.
If you want to have a direct say in the proposed sov changes this will effect every single 0.0 alliance player to the tune of $14ish/month for a DUST MMO subscription to a ******ng CONSOLE game.
Edit clarity & grammar.
Envy of CCP's wealth really ticking you off eh?
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.08.19 23:22:00 -
[136]
Slightly late but!
OH GOD NO COMPANIES IN THE GAMES INDUSTRY CAN'T MAKE MONEY WHAT THE CHRIST IS THIS. I DEMAND PUBLIC EXECUTIONS OF THOSE INVOLVED.
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Pandemonium Heresy
Amarr Interstellar Commodity and Product Exchange
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Posted - 2009.08.19 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: Pandemonium Heresy on 19/08/2009 23:25:33 Honestly I wish I was an investor. They have a solid business plan and are looking to diversify their customer base. You (OP) however sound like a commie. _________________________________________________
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Toriessian
Amarr Wormhole-space Surveying and Exploitation
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Posted - 2009.08.19 23:51:00 -
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There are several answers to negative threads regarding DUST....
1) Adapt or Die?
2) Wait until we actually know more... for all we know this will work perfectly with the Sov changes coming in the winter expansion anyways?
3) OMG you might have to pay for some mercs to help hold a planet and you'd get access to planetside resources to compensate for it?
4) Be happy that a company is actually trying something new in the MMO genre and even if it crashes and burns at least it was attempted? Its better than World of Everquest II regardless???
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Nito Musashi
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Posted - 2009.08.19 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Generalissima Hilmar sank to the level of John Smedley in my esteem. And my regard for "Teh Smed" is somewhere between a rat and a politician. With apologies to rats, which have actually made positive contributions to Humanity with their usefulness in medical research, unlike politicians OR Smed.
we agree on rats and politicians, lest we agree on one point of contention.
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.08.20 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Zartanic on 20/08/2009 00:25:10
Originally by: Pandemonium Heresy Edited by: Pandemonium Heresy on 19/08/2009 23:25:33 Honestly I wish I was an investor. They have a solid business plan and are looking to diversify their customer base. You (OP) however sound like a commie.
Yes agree, there is so much CCP is that other devs are not or have lost over the years (like Blizzard has lost):
1. They play and love the game, they understand it
2. They do try and avoid upsetting their core players. That's extremely hard as many are naturally set in their ways. Its a lot easier to appeal to new or ultra casual players as Blizz have done and tell the core players to sod off. CCP do not do that.
3. They have a clear vision of the game and Dust is part of that. I did not expect anything for several more years though and I'm nicely surprised they are 3 years ahead already. EVE never really was just a spaceship game, the concept went far further than that and always has.
4. As a Company they must expand, staying still never works as another Company will trample you down. Look at what Microsoft did and does to lazy and complacent companies. All companies have a development budget and development investors, Dust can only benefit existing EVE customers as we will be getting a lot of the new codes function effectively for free.
5. They take calculated risks. What they are doing is just a start, EVE could be the best game ever. Imagine the scope of it, limitless.
CCP are far from perfect but I suspect the interface with Dust will be implemented and changes made as they learn from it.
Its a shame that on the internet its the fashion to go overboard and over react when something is changed. Its far best to sit back, relax and look at changes in a dispassionate way. If then its something you hate, fair enough, but we are far away from knowing how exactly Dust will work.
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Nito Musashi
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Posted - 2009.08.20 00:37:00 -
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and in ccps favor everytime some chage is going to cause the "end of eve" anyone that is at all honest every nerf and gameplay change thus far has been for the better, aside maybe from capitols ships, but thats a whole other can of worms.
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Life is Experience New Eden Hardware Emporium
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Posted - 2009.08.20 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Zartanic
... 5. They take calculated risks. What they are doing is just a start, EVE could be the best game ever. Imagine the scope of it, limitless.
CCP are far from perfect but I suspect the interface with Dust will be implemented and changes made as they learn from it.
Its a shame that on the internet its the fashion to go overboard and over react when something is changed. Its far best to sit back, relax and look at changes in a dispassionate way. If then its something you hate, fair enough, but we are far away from knowing how exactly Dust will work.
Point #5 will NOT happen until they get a RL version of the holodeck in action. That could take longer than ambulation so lets not speculate when that will be.
Eve-online Industrial Organiser thread t1 & t2 batch manufacturing |
F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 00:57:00 -
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Aside from Generalissima and the OP, how many people in this thread have negative feelings about Dust? I don't think it's that many, especially since Generalissima accounts for about 1/4 of the posts.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Life is Experience New Eden Hardware Emporium
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Posted - 2009.08.20 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog Aside from Generalissima and the OP, how many people in this thread have negative feelings about Dust? I don't think it's that many, especially since Generalissima accounts for about 1/4 of the posts.
I think it's a great move by CCP - a HUGE risk certainly, but then New Eden has evolved on risk and reward since Beta.
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.08.20 01:18:00 -
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Point #5 will NOT happen until they get a RL version of the holodeck in action. That could take longer than ambulation so lets not speculate when that will be.
Yes that's true:)
I've played EVE on and off for years though and its the only game I could see evolving for 100 years or more while other games will naturally fade and die away.
VR EVE would be good...I better stock up on more exotic dancers.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.08.20 01:48:00 -
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OP is a dummy head
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Pandemonium Heresy
Amarr Interstellar Commodity and Product Exchange
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Posted - 2009.08.20 01:54:00 -
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Even if it turns out to be ultimately a flop, as long as they make their R&D money back they'll profit, and some of that profit might go back into EVE. I don't know why all these SWG nerds suddenly have sand in their vah-jj's. It's CCP guys not CCCP. _________________________________________________
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.20 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Pandemonium Heresy Edited by: Pandemonium Heresy on 19/08/2009 23:25:33 Honestly I wish I was an investor. They have a solid business plan and are looking to diversify their customer base. You (OP) however sound like a commie.
I was looking into this morning, apparently CCP is a private company though, so no shares =(
Sig Gallery is currently down: Contact me ingame for prices.
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Pandemonium Heresy
Amarr Interstellar Commodity and Product Exchange
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Posted - 2009.08.20 04:55:00 -
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Yeah, I looked them up too. Sigh. _________________________________________________
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.08.20 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Slave 2739FKZ
Originally by: Tippia You don't lose any control unless you chose to ignore this new mechanic.
Yes, because for not ignoring it you need a new game, a new subscription (proabbly), and a new console.
No. You don't need any of those. All you will (just as probably) need is ISK. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
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