TBH, goonswarm doesn't care about empire for the most part. It's a playground to visit, buy stuff in, and cause chaos in general. Anyway, :words: because people are confused about this patch.
Here is a break down of our wars. We have approximately 8,901 members in Goonswarm Federation right now, though I'd be surprised if more than 50 were down in empire taking part in these wars. We do have a lot of dumb pilots who ignore war decs though and try to buy something in Jita, dying on the undock!
Quote:Goonswarm Fed vs Mabrick Mining and Manufacturing (3 members)
0 Allies
0 kills, 0 losses
Goonswarm Fed vs Paladin Noesis (2 members)
0 Allies
0 kills, 0 losses
Goonswarm Fed vs Paladin Philanthropists (3 members)
0 Allies
0 kills, 0 losses
Goonswarm Fed vs The Honda Accord (154 members) (http://evewho.com/alli/The+Honda+Accord)
38 Allies
40 kills, 341 losses (7 bil killed, 17.8 bil lost)
Goonswarm Fed vs The Star Fraction (70 members (http://evewho.com/alli/The+Star+Fraction)
40 Allies
19 kills, 62 losses (1.4 bil killed, 10.2 bil lost)
So, to replicate this circumstance in this new system, Honda and Star Fraction would have to spend approximately
1.4 Quintillion and 5.5 Quintillion respectively (short system). Versus the Inferno War dec system, which cost
0. Now, if you have significant resources to protect, 10 allies is 20 bil, which is somewhat reasonable. But you better choose your mercs wisely! I also assure you that we will have similar losses in the new system as well,
we are bad at eve.
The current system is obviously broken, this is not the merc system as was requested. It's not like goonswarm is showing up in groups of 400 in empire to kill one small group either. We're showing up in packs of two's and four's to gank haulers and industrials. And we are losing tons of single pilots on jita undock, because we have dumb pilots.
In the end, you have to hire competent mercenaries that can protect your assets with small groups with a fleet doctrine and you'll be fine. Hiring the entire universe to defend you is crazy talk. Also, why would people hire mercenaries if they can get some people to randomly show up for free? Give people a reason to hire the best mercenaries rather than just gankers. Hiring a group like the Privateers is great if you want them to sit on Jita undock and pop random goons. But to protect you in the belts and hauling, that takes a real mercenary crew.
Also, I made this quick spreadsheet to demonstrate the lunacy of attempting 50 allies. This should go in the wiki but ... :effort:
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1 ally = 0 Million
2 allies = 10 Million
3 allies = 30 Million
4 allies = 70 Million
5 allies = 150 Million
6 allies = 310 Million
7 allies = 630 Million
8 allies = 1 Billion
9 allies = 2 Billion
10 allies = 5 Billion
11 allies = 10 Billion
12 allies = 20 Billion
13 allies = 40 Billion
14 allies = 81 Billion
15 allies = 163 Billion
16 allies = 327 Billion
17 allies = 655 Billion
18 allies = 1 Trillion
19 allies = 2 Trillion
20 allies = 5 Trillion
21 allies = 10 Trillion
22 allies = 20 Trillion
23 allies = 41 Trillion
24 allies = 83 Trillion
25 allies = 167 Trillion
26 allies = 335 Trillion
27 allies = 671 Trillion
28 allies = 1 Quadrillion
29 allies = 2 Quadrillion
30 allies = 5 Quadrillion
31 allies = 10 Quadrillion
32 allies = 21 Quadrillion
33 allies = 42 Quadrillion
34 allies = 85 Quadrillion
35 allies = 171 Quadrillion
36 allies = 343 Quadrillion
37 allies = 687 Quadrillion
38 allies = 1 Quintillion
39 allies = 2 Quintillion
40 allies = 5 Quintillion
41 allies = 10 Quintillion
42 allies = 21 Quintillion
43 allies = 43 Quintillion
44 allies = 87 Quintillion
45 allies = 175 Quintillion
46 allies = 351 Quintillion
47 allies = 703 Quintillion
48 allies = 1 Sextillion
49 allies = 2 Sextillion
50 allies = 5 Sextillion
PS, if CCP were working for us, Super Capitals and Titans would be removed from the game. Nice troll though!