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Americe Zane
Dovahkiin. Rebel Alliance of New Eden
18
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Posted - 2012.07.12 06:32:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Abel Merkabah wrote:Caroline Cosmos wrote:Sushi is kinda like Japanese tacos anyway, so yeah, that makes sense. Have to agree with this. In Washington DC there is a Mexican Sushi fusion restaurant called Zengo. That place is the best. At least it was there a few years ago; haven't been back to DC since to find out. The beauty of taco bars are they go with everything. It is an isolated island of pure bliss and magic. Does not matter what else the rest of the business sells, the taco bar is a self contained unit packed with deliciousness. I think we need to escalate this. Now I want a taco bar in my office! Why should I be deprived of scrumptious taco heaven because the man says I need to work 9-5. You're an American !! -you don't know what food culture is, you eat the finest and delicious meals like hamburgers!! Jesus you can eat water melon with ketchup and syrup Bah, I'm getting angry now !!
Angry because we have deliciously bad food? Nothing can be worse than the pizza I had in Dubai. Who the hell puts corn and carrots on pizza? |
Abel Merkabah
TIMELINE Industries
56
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Posted - 2012.07.12 06:36:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Abel Merkabah wrote:Caroline Cosmos wrote:Sushi is kinda like Japanese tacos anyway, so yeah, that makes sense. Have to agree with this. In Washington DC there is a Mexican Sushi fusion restaurant called Zengo. That place is the best. At least it was there a few years ago; haven't been back to DC since to find out. The beauty of taco bars are they go with everything. It is an isolated island of pure bliss and magic. Does not matter what else the rest of the business sells, the taco bar is a self contained unit packed with deliciousness. I think we need to escalate this. Now I want a taco bar in my office! Why should I be deprived of scrumptious taco heaven because the man says I need to work 9-5. You're an American !! -you don't know what food culture is, you eat the finest and delicious meals like hamburgers!! Jesus you can eat water melon with ketchup and syrup Bah, I'm getting angry now !!
In all honesty was Zengo was a critically acclaimed restaurant at the time; and I do have a desire to try the cuisine of other cultures, however, have not been able to afford the trip out of country. Please do not be angry, this thread is about joy and happiness. And Puppies. Joy and happiness and puppies. That is seriously how good feeling this thread is. Stay happy. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
494
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Posted - 2012.07.12 06:36:00 -
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Yeah, despite some of those things have a very bad looking, grassy whatever they're fracking tasty
But still, Tacos are delicious tu Tacos are Tacos and Suchis are Suchis !!
Leaving for work, cya latter space friends ;)
@Able: I'm kidding you guys, c'mon you should know by now Lin (toon) loves mess with words and grammar brb |
Americe Zane
Dovahkiin. Rebel Alliance of New Eden
18
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Posted - 2012.07.12 06:39:00 -
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Abel Merkabah wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Abel Merkabah wrote:Caroline Cosmos wrote:Sushi is kinda like Japanese tacos anyway, so yeah, that makes sense. Have to agree with this. In Washington DC there is a Mexican Sushi fusion restaurant called Zengo. That place is the best. At least it was there a few years ago; haven't been back to DC since to find out. The beauty of taco bars are they go with everything. It is an isolated island of pure bliss and magic. Does not matter what else the rest of the business sells, the taco bar is a self contained unit packed with deliciousness. I think we need to escalate this. Now I want a taco bar in my office! Why should I be deprived of scrumptious taco heaven because the man says I need to work 9-5. You're an American !! -you don't know what food culture is, you eat the finest and delicious meals like hamburgers!! Jesus you can eat water melon with ketchup and syrup Bah, I'm getting angry now !! In all honesty was Zengo was a critically acclaimed restaurant at the time; and I do have a desire to try the cuisine of other cultures, however, have not been able to afford the trip out of country. Please do not be angry, this thread is about joy and happiness. And Puppies. Joy and happiness and puppies. That is seriously how good feeling this thread is. Stay happy.
Puppy tacos?
I made myself sad.
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Abel Merkabah
TIMELINE Industries
56
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Posted - 2012.07.12 06:41:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Yeah, despite some of those things have a very bad looking, grassy whatever they're fracking tasty But still, Tacos are delicious tu Tacos are Tacos and Suchis are Suchis !! Leaving for work, cya latter space friends ;) @Able: I'm kidding you guys, c'mon you should know by now Lin (toon) loves mess with words and grammar
I got it.. Have a good day.
I shall depart as well, alarm clock will be going off way too soon. I've enjoyed derailing this thread with you all.
Fly safe. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |
Abel Merkabah
TIMELINE Industries
56
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Posted - 2012.07.12 06:43:00 -
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Americe Zane wrote:Abel Merkabah wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Abel Merkabah wrote:Caroline Cosmos wrote:Sushi is kinda like Japanese tacos anyway, so yeah, that makes sense. Have to agree with this. In Washington DC there is a Mexican Sushi fusion restaurant called Zengo. That place is the best. At least it was there a few years ago; haven't been back to DC since to find out. The beauty of taco bars are they go with everything. It is an isolated island of pure bliss and magic. Does not matter what else the rest of the business sells, the taco bar is a self contained unit packed with deliciousness. I think we need to escalate this. Now I want a taco bar in my office! Why should I be deprived of scrumptious taco heaven because the man says I need to work 9-5. You're an American !! -you don't know what food culture is, you eat the finest and delicious meals like hamburgers!! Jesus you can eat water melon with ketchup and syrup Bah, I'm getting angry now !! In all honesty was Zengo was a critically acclaimed restaurant at the time; and I do have a desire to try the cuisine of other cultures, however, have not been able to afford the trip out of country. Please do not be angry, this thread is about joy and happiness. And Puppies. Joy and happiness and puppies. That is seriously how good feeling this thread is. Stay happy. Puppy tacos? I made myself sad.
Don't knock it until you've tried it...lol
Gnight.
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Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
240
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:07:00 -
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Well phrased blog about the unified inventory: Tippi's Rants - The Shift-Click, it does nothing! EGD: If you jettison what's in your brain, at least expect can flipping. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
618
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:49:00 -
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i wonder ,will there be a third attempt to post this thread? pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
361
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:55:00 -
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October sees the release of windows 8
Good luck with that if the inventory system functioning like a modern file system manager upsets you.
But would like to see state of windows recorded myself just because I'm not a bot, I'm human and therefore lazy. ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8516
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:59:00 -
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Spurty wrote:Good luck with that if the inventory system functioning like a modern file system manager upsets you. The Unified Inventory does not function like a modern file manager. It functions like a quarter-century old file manager.
A modern file manager looks like this and features such advanced things as inherently showing two locations at once. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Jonah Gravenstein
608
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:29:00 -
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My only major gripes with the unified inventory are that it's not integrated with your game wide assets and that it doesn't remember the size you set the filters expander thingy at. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
361
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Posted - 2012.07.12 13:42:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Spurty wrote:Good luck with that if the inventory system functioning like a modern file system manager upsets you. The Unified Inventory does not function like a modern file manager. It functions like a quarter-century old file manager. A modern file manager looks more like this or like this, or hell, even like this, and will generally feature such advanced things as inherently showing and keeping track of two locations at once. Modern file managers are moving away from the tree-view paradigm since it has shown to be cumbersome and wasteful and since there are far better solutions to the problem GÇö Win8 follows this trend. GǪit's particularly cumbersome and wasteful if what you're representing isn't even a deeply nested structure of containers.
Your links just made me puke a little .. good grief. Those samples are all hideous. I was talking about modern, not experimental.
- Windows Explorer on Windows 7 - Apple's Finder - Nautilus on Linux
|Left Pane| Right pane| |Container|Contents|
What we had before were floating 'buckets' of stuff.
Now we can see whats what and more importantly, which what we're looking at.
Do agree with the random popping up of windows when jumping gates (frustrating). That's got to be just a failure to save state.
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8517
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Posted - 2012.07.12 14:30:00 -
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Spurty wrote:I was talking about modern, not experimental. They are modern. They've been in use and have proven rock solid for a good while now. They passed out of the experimental stage at, oh, the turn of the century or so.
Quote:- Windows Explorer on Windows 7 - Apple's Finder - Nautilus on Linux None of those are modern. They all harken back to DOSShell and the like in the mid-'80s with very little improvement done since then. The ones I listed have gone beyond that and work with a GÇ£object-action-targetGÇ¥ paradigm on top of being able to show the (outdated) tree view abstraction (ok, abstraction is the wrong word since it doesn't actually abstract away anything GÇö it's just a na+»ve representation of the file categorisation based on a single variable). Granted, Norton Commander was also invented in the '80s as a (vast) improvement over things like DOSShell, but unlike the explorers you listed, it has been further improved since that early start.
Quote:What we had before were floating 'buckets' of stuff. Now we can see whats what and more importantly, which what we're looking at. What we had before were containers that could be combined into contextually sensible collections in accordance with your needs and the space required to make them useful. They showed perfectly well what was what and which GÇ£whatGÇ¥ you were looking at. This is actually less true now since the separation between inventories no longer exist. You can emulate it, but it requires far more work to set up and maintain since it's a work-around. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Abel Merkabah
TIMELINE Industries
57
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Posted - 2012.07.12 14:30:00 -
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There are already better threads then this existing for Unified Inventory, and this topic should have been in F&I; so please honor the new direction this thread has taken. The thread is now about Taco Bars and there distribution/application, not Unified Inventory.
Thank you for your compliance. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |
Zapphire
Circle of Jerks
18
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:06:00 -
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Please move taco bar discussion to this thread.
Thank you,
Zapphire.
Also, no this does not belong in F&I. If you actually take the time to read the posts you'd see the "logic" behind posting it here. I know it's hard with all the food posts here. Slug through them and read a little and you'll figure it out.
If the moderators thought this belonged in a different thread, they'd move it. If you keep talking about taco bars, it will probably stay in GD. Glad to see you all have solid and practical thoughts and can convey them in a manner in accordance with the original post instead of getting distracted by the shiny objects...
Keep to the original discussion, instead of going against your own methods and not sticking to the forum rules. If the rules state this belongs in F&I, then the rules also state you can't discuss topics not outlined in the original post. Can't have it both way, lawyers. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1613701&#post1613701 |
Zapphire
Circle of Jerks
18
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:07:00 -
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Thank you to the posters who are staying on topic.
Zapphire. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1613701&#post1613701 |
Zapphire
Circle of Jerks
18
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:11:00 -
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"Server not found."
Oh well. However, I don't want a discussion in a blog. I want a discussion with the forum posters. Yes, even THESE forum posters. If I could just get them to keep to their own rules and stay on topic...
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1613701&#post1613701 |
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
618
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:13:00 -
[48] - Quote
Zapphire wrote:Please move taco bar discussion to this thread. Thank you, Zapphire. Also, no this does not belong in F&I. If you actually take the time to read the posts you'd see the "logic" behind posting it here. I know it's hard with all the food posts here. Slug through them and read a little and you'll figure it out. If the moderators thought this belonged in a different thread, they'd move it. If you keep talking about taco bars, it will probably stay in GD. Glad to see you all have solid and practical thoughts and can convey them in a manner in accordance with the original post instead of getting distracted by the shiny objects... Keep to the original discussion, instead of going against your own methods and not sticking to the forum rules. If the rules state this belongs in F&I, then the rules also state you can't discuss topics not outlined in the original post. Can't have it both way, lawyers.
multiposting threads and expect everybody to honor your opinion you can,t have it both ways pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Henry Kaine
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:25:00 -
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Zapphire wrote:Please move taco bar discussion to this thread. Thank you, Zapphire. Also, no this does not belong in F&I. If you actually take the time to read the posts you'd see the "logic" behind posting it here. I know it's hard with all the food posts here. Slug through them and read a little and you'll figure it out. If the moderators thought this belonged in a different thread, they'd move it. If you keep talking about taco bars, it will probably stay in GD. Glad to see you all have solid and practical thoughts and can convey them in a manner in accordance with the original post instead of getting distracted by the shiny objects... Keep to the original discussion, instead of going against your own methods and not sticking to the forum rules. If the rules state this belongs in F&I, then the rules also state you can't discuss topics not outlined in the original post. Can't have it both way, lawyers.
That's cute, you think you can moderate your own thread.
SO, back on topic, anyone seen the Doritos taco shells? They look absolutely delicious. |
Zapphire
Circle of Jerks
18
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:31:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Zapphire wrote:Please move taco bar discussion to this thread. Thank you, Zapphire. Also, no this does not belong in F&I. If you actually take the time to read the posts you'd see the "logic" behind posting it here. I know it's hard with all the food posts here. Slug through them and read a little and you'll figure it out. If the moderators thought this belonged in a different thread, they'd move it. If you keep talking about taco bars, it will probably stay in GD. Glad to see you all have solid and practical thoughts and can convey them in a manner in accordance with the original post instead of getting distracted by the shiny objects... Keep to the original discussion, instead of going against your own methods and not sticking to the forum rules. If the rules state this belongs in F&I, then the rules also state you can't discuss topics not outlined in the original post. Can't have it both way, lawyers. multiposting threads and expect everybody to honor your opinion you can,t have it both ways
I removed the applicable information I posted in that thread. "Multiposting" due to people avoiding their own dogmatic rules by not staying on topic.
Based on this, yes, I can and do have it both ways.
Thanks!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1613701&#post1613701 |
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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
618
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:37:00 -
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Zapphire wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Zapphire wrote:Please move taco bar discussion to this thread. Thank you, Zapphire. Also, no this does not belong in F&I. If you actually take the time to read the posts you'd see the "logic" behind posting it here. I know it's hard with all the food posts here. Slug through them and read a little and you'll figure it out. If the moderators thought this belonged in a different thread, they'd move it. If you keep talking about taco bars, it will probably stay in GD. Glad to see you all have solid and practical thoughts and can convey them in a manner in accordance with the original post instead of getting distracted by the shiny objects... Keep to the original discussion, instead of going against your own methods and not sticking to the forum rules. If the rules state this belongs in F&I, then the rules also state you can't discuss topics not outlined in the original post. Can't have it both way, lawyers. multiposting threads and expect everybody to honor your opinion you can,t have it both ways I removed the applicable information I posted in that thread. "Multiposting" due to people avoiding their own dogmatic rules by not staying on topic. Based on this, yes, I can and do have it both ways. Thanks!
Do CCP,s forum overlords think the same?
pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Henry Kaine
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:38:00 -
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Zapphire wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Zapphire wrote:Please move taco bar discussion to this thread. Thank you, Zapphire. Also, no this does not belong in F&I. If you actually take the time to read the posts you'd see the "logic" behind posting it here. I know it's hard with all the food posts here. Slug through them and read a little and you'll figure it out. If the moderators thought this belonged in a different thread, they'd move it. If you keep talking about taco bars, it will probably stay in GD. Glad to see you all have solid and practical thoughts and can convey them in a manner in accordance with the original post instead of getting distracted by the shiny objects... Keep to the original discussion, instead of going against your own methods and not sticking to the forum rules. If the rules state this belongs in F&I, then the rules also state you can't discuss topics not outlined in the original post. Can't have it both way, lawyers. multiposting threads and expect everybody to honor your opinion you can,t have it both ways I removed the applicable information I posted in that thread. "Multiposting" due to people avoiding their own dogmatic rules by not staying on topic. Based on this, yes, I can and do have it both ways. Thanks!
You spilled honey mustard sauce on your ****, or are those the tears of a multiposting try-hard?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8518
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:39:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Do CCP,s forum overlords think the same? Considering how they personally tried to diffuse discussion of this particular topic over 6-7 different threads, I wouldn't be surprisedGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
618
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:44:00 -
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At least we have a good discussion about Taco,s in this one and a discussion about a place called Wendy,s in the other so basically you could say these are two different threads pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
1190
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Posted - 2012.07.12 16:24:00 -
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Zapphire wrote:Hello, Yup. It's that time again. But before you get all cranky on me about yet another thread concerning this, let it be known that this post is an attempt to give CCP an idea of what grinds my gears about it. If you are happy with the changes and are unwilling to enter into this discussion with positive feedback; move along. This thread does not welcome you. Hopefully I will express some concerns here that people agree with and maybe we can get some changes made to it. I am not sure why this new system was implemented. Sometimes a developer just has to make changes to things. Meh. Whatever. It's in the game and it doesn't look like it is just going to vanish suddenly and we will return to the completely satisfactory way things have been done for 9 years. I do not want to hear about "bots" and "macroers" and all the rest of the "reasons" why this new system exists. I do not care, nor is it relevant. Much like all rules and changes, they usually only end up screwing over the people that aren't breaking any rules or abusing things. Just like in Real Life. Sad. So, I give three banana peels about how this is "supposed to help alleviate blah blah blah". I don't care. This is a discussion that attempts to point out the papercuts experienced while using it. *waves goodbye to the Old WayGäó and grudgingly holds the door open for this new tennant... Let's just get started here:
- Could you please fix it so that the "My Filters" section does not auto pop-up every single time I open the left-hand menu/list?
- Can you please fix it so that when I click the little arrows to minimize the "My Filters" section that I do not have to click it twice?
- Can you at least try and think of a way that we can control our inventory windows to some degree in regards to having more than one open? I think pinning should allow us to hold open a window if we choose. Some of us aren't botting!
- Can we please fix the code that "remembers" where things are placed on our UI?
- Is it possible that we could drag a window from the list to open a new one? Again: some of us aren't botting!
- Can we please be able to have Corp Hangars be a totally separate entitiy? Can this be an option? Even if I were a macrominer, I'm not sure that the Corp Hangars even has an impact here outside of some asshat using a capital industrial.
Some of the following may or may not be associated with the new inventory system. But I'm going to talk about them anyways. Here are some Spicy Chicken Nuggets from Wendy'sGäó for anyone who is butthurt over choosing to read this crap.
- Can we please have the UI remember that I had the Items tab (merged into my station services window) open when I undocked?
- Can we please not have the UI lose focus on the window I am using during a session change? I would really like to expand on this idea here:
Back In The DayGäó, one could start typing in a chat window and continue to type during a session change and everything seemed to go fine. NowGäó one loses the focus on the active chat window and I have to grab the mouse again, and click back into the text box to continue typing. Annoying Level 9000. Whatever the hell you did, please return it to the Old WayGäó. I think that is pretty much it for now. I'm sure there are a few things I forgot, or made a mistake on. Thankfully there is an EDIT button for these forums and I will be allowed to change or redact any errors. Thank you for your time! Enjoy the chicken nuggets. Zapphire P.S. Keep the DISCUSSION positive, even if your OPINION about the topic isn't. If you can't understand the difference, I can't help you.
First off, I would like to approve this thread, it's actually constructive and informative.
So then....
1) Yup agreed 2) Yup agreed 3) Can you elaborate a little on this one with some specific cases? My ships and items hangers and ship cargo all are remembering their locations and states just fine. The ship cargo does seem to close itself between login/off though, but re-opening it for the same ship leave it in the correct position. 4) Again, more examples? All of my inventory windows, both primary and secondary, seem to remember where they are just fine. 5) I'm pretty sure it already does this. (Just checked, never mind, guess not....maybe it did it on SiSi once, I coulda sworn I was able to do this at one point, either way shift click seems to work for me, but your point is valid) 6) Can we have a scenario on how this should work? I've been able to manage with how my corp hanger is now but I haven't had to really use it a lot besides maybe dropping stuff off in a POS. When doing an op with an orca i let the corp hanger sit in my primary inventory window while i keep my secondary current ship cargo window open, same way as I'd use a jet can.
For your other two points, I think there might be a problem with your settings files not saving properly or something. I just checked and found that the option to merge ships and items with station panel works fine between dock and undock.
The other one is a given. I haven't really noticed it much but i think that could be cause cause I've gotten used to it. The Drake is a Lie |
Abel Merkabah
TIMELINE Industries
60
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Posted - 2012.07.12 21:18:00 -
[56] - Quote
Zapphire wrote:Please move taco bar discussion to this thread. Thank you, Zapphire. Also, no this does not belong in F&I. If you actually take the time to read the posts you'd see the "logic" behind posting it here. I know it's hard with all the food posts here. Slug through them and read a little and you'll figure it out. If the moderators thought this belonged in a different thread, they'd move it. If you keep talking about taco bars, it will probably stay in GD. Glad to see you all have solid and practical thoughts and can convey them in a manner in accordance with the original post instead of getting distracted by the shiny objects... Keep to the original discussion, instead of going against your own methods and not sticking to the forum rules. If the rules state this belongs in F&I, then the rules also state you can't discuss topics not outlined in the original post. Can't have it both way, lawyers.
Well played advert for recruitment thread. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
964
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Posted - 2012.07.12 22:10:00 -
[57] - Quote
go check out the new sisi build Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
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