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00sage00
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.08.04 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: 00sage00 on 04/08/2010 00:50:25 Edited by: 00sage00 on 04/08/2010 00:47:57 Edited by: 00sage00 on 04/08/2010 00:47:11 Successful piracy is possible without spending too much time, although finding good fights without getting blobbed can be difficult at times.
When you're just starting, casual PvP is difficult due to the learning curve. You will have to spend a bit of time reading up on all the combat mechanics (how guns work, how missiles work, different types of tanking, etc.) before you really understand what you are doing.
Solo pirating is the fastest way to learn, but also one of the most difficult and time consuming ways. Joining a pirate corp like the Gurlistas (note: I've never been in it before; only shot people in it) is helpful. You can also pop into pirate corps' public channels (e.g. Tuskers Public, Python Public) for PvP advice. The pirate corps mentioned by others earlier (Tuskers, Bastards, Python Cartel, Gurlistas, etc) are quite trustworthy and will honor their word.
It's true that winning fights as a newer player can be difficult due to both inexperience and poor skills, but it's entirely possible. Here's a guide I wrote on how to PvP better (as well as a short history of how I started): http://00sage00.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/piloting-saaviness/ --
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Valoric Liao
Ethos Mining and Logistics
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Posted - 2010.08.04 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn Edited by: Thorian Baalnorn on 04/08/2010 00:38:25
Originally by: Ka Jolo Links
The thing people here are missing is PVP isnt going out shooting at stuff and seeing what works and what doesnt. Its a terrible way to learn to pvp.
That is tied for the dumbest thing you've written this thread.
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Amanda Mor
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.04 02:04:00 -
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Thorian, honestly, give it up. If I were to purposefully design an ideal poster to give out the absolute worst advice imaginable to a new and eager pvp pilot, I couldn't come up with some of the idiotic gems you've been throwing out. Seriously, you have no idea what you're talking about - a cursory glance at your pvp history shows that you don't have any experience in this topic. With such a limited record, your claims of maintaining a 6:1 k/l ratio means absolutely nothing - you have a TOTAL of less than 80 kills.
I mean, really, you don't even have a basic grasp of the most elementary game mechanics (the ones you apparently spent a year of SP time learning): you can't speed tank station or gate guns!
OP - if you want to join a laid-back pvp corp, let me know in this thread, I'll contact you with my main. ---------------------------------------------- I don't have an alt, but there's a main that would be upset if he heard me say that... |
Ava Starfire
Minmatar Nordanverdr Modr
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Posted - 2010.08.04 02:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ava Starfire on 04/08/2010 02:49:36 Some very good advice in this thread; I learned a lot from it. I fly T1 frigs pretty much exclusively, and finding fights you can win is the hardest part. Once you know what you can expect to beat and what you cant, what's bait and what isnt, losec becomes a new world; your world.
Some incredibly helpful stuff here, thank you all for taking the time.
A note on alts; I have three characters on one account. My main, this one, is my primary character, the one I pvp with. I have a hauler alt (mammoth pilot) who is also the CEO for my corp (consisting of me and my alt!) and I have a third one that runs missions for me with a T2 equipped Mael, who isnt done training just yet, 2 more months or so. Total time invested in my alts, meh...4 months between the two?
Not having to worry about isk or hauling helps sooo much.
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:02:00 -
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Edited by: Thorian Baalnorn on 04/08/2010 03:04:14
Originally by: Amanda Mor Trash
Yeah go out and get popped 100 times. Honestly, all the boards in every one of the dozen plus mmos i have played in 15 years is the same. your board warriors that think they know how to play always running around on the boards smack talking like they know everything. But when you look them up they have 75 kills... all mining barges, t1 frigs and cruisers... in high sec lol.
look i am a real pirate i kill people in high sec!
OP follow the bad advice given here. Go running around low sec in a rifter , blow yourself up 100 times and tell us how much you learned from dying. It wont be anything you learned by not staying in high sec not dying and killing rats learning how to use a ship before you try to kill other people in theirs.
Amanda- Let me school you a bit on gate guns. Unless they changed it gate guns still have to track. they have very good tracking but still have to track. The only thing in game that ignores this game mechanic that i am aware of is DD.
You can lessen gate gun damage simply by moving. I did this in a hawk with an AB at 900 m/s while tanking a harpy for about 2 minutes until the harpy jumped back through to highsec because he couldnt track me. I did not negate all the damage but enough of it that a very good shield booster plus resist kept me above 50% shield fairly easily. I stopped briefly( he ran me into the gate orbiting) and the guns hit me for nearly 4 times the damage of me moving.
Low sig + AB = gate guns tanked. low sig + MWD = gate guns can track because you have the sig of a drake I could not of tanked them indefinately as i would eventually run out of cap but for a few minutes yes.
Game mechanics are your friend.
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Amanda Eidolo
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn Slavering, incoherent neckbeardism
Do not listen to this man. He has no idea what he is talking about and will most likely discover how incorrect and feeble he is before pretending that it was all some sort of hilarious meta-troll he dreamed up at Genius School« to cover his tracks and hide his shame.
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Man Barthelme
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.08.04 04:01:00 -
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If you're not out there hunting and being hunted for some length of time (aka experienced) you're going to suck no matter how many SPs you've got.
Know what's satisfying? Using frigates to blow up two year old characters in battleships with tons of SPs and no combat experience, then catching their implant-ridden pods and demanding millions of isk before releasing them back into the wild.
If you want to be receiving ransoms one day, buy 10 rifters and fittings, the best T1 mods you can fit (T2 if you've got the skills) and commit to lowsec. After roaming a bit you'll find some good hunting grounds. Read Wensley's Rifter Guide linked earlier by the Spank, as well as the Ranos' Beginner's Guide to Piracy, the thread of which is usually somewhere in the first 3 pages of C&P.
If you want to be paying the ransom listen to people like Nemphtis and wait a year, do a bunch of stupid missions and develop minimal experience while developing a PVE fitting philosophy that you may have difficulty unlearning, and come into lowsec as a great big isk pinata (preferably on the borders of Verge Vendor/Essence).
Everyone who says just do it is giving you good advice. Everyone counseling you to wait is wrong.
When your 10 rifters have all been destroyed, buy ten more, etc. Take your time moving up to bigger ships. I played successfully for months before fitting a cruiser, and I'm only a mediocre pilot.
I see no point in saying anything furthe
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Amanda Mor
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.04 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn Edited by: Thorian Baalnorn on 04/08/2010 03:04:14
Originally by: Amanda Mor Trash
Yeah go out and get popped 100 times. Honestly, all the boards in every one of the dozen plus mmos i have played in 15 years is the same. your board warriors that think they know how to play always running around on the boards smack talking like they know everything. But when you look them up they have 75 kills... all mining barges, t1 frigs and cruisers... in high sec lol.
look i am a real pirate i kill people in high sec!
OP follow the bad advice given here. Go running around low sec in a rifter , blow yourself up 100 times and tell us how much you learned from dying. It wont be anything you learned by not staying in high sec not dying and killing rats learning how to use a ship before you try to kill other people in theirs.
Amanda- Let me school you a bit on gate guns. Unless they changed it gate guns still have to track. they have very good tracking but still have to track. The only thing in game that ignores this game mechanic that i am aware of is DD.
You can lessen gate gun damage simply by moving. I did this in a hawk with an AB at 900 m/s while tanking a harpy for about 2 minutes until the harpy jumped back through to highsec because he couldnt track me. I did not negate all the damage but enough of it that a very good shield booster plus resist kept me above 50% shield fairly easily. I stopped briefly( he ran me into the gate orbiting) and the guns hit me for nearly 4 times the damage of me moving.
Low sig + AB = gate guns tanked. low sig + MWD = gate guns can track because you have the sig of a drake I could not of tanked them indefinately as i would eventually run out of cap but for a few minutes yes.
Game mechanics are your friend.
You're still going at it eh? Well congratulations I guess, but you have no idea what you're talking about. Gate and Station guns hit at 100% regardless of how fast you're going, so keep on going with your "speed tanking gate guns" BS. The infinestismal amount of credibility you had is completely shot with this statement.
If this is a troll then good job I guess, but otherwise, you couldn't possibly be more clueless unless you are actually mentally deficient, or have never fought on a gate in lowsec. Since your last bunch of "kills" are nullsec stations, I have a feeling you're comfortable in a 30 man blob listening to FC commands from someone who knows what they're talking about, but would easily be killed by the OP regardless of your SP or the ship you fly.
Seriously, stop posting here, you look dumber every time, and your stupidity might be contagious. ---------------------------------------------- I don't have an alt, but there's a main that would be upset if he heard me say that... |
Aesheera
Amarr Hello Kitty Goes Commando
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:18:00 -
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Edited by: Aesheera on 04/08/2010 08:20:02 Confirming hereby that Baalnorn is mostly posting ****.
Why? I started pvp at day 3. Punisher, dive into lowsec, see what you can do. succes and failure but good learning. I do believe that going out there and seeing what goes on is the best way to learn. 'Practice makes perfect' applies here.
Fux blobwarfare, go out there and solo.
Also Nempthis, convo me later tonight, we'll have a talk and I might just get you onboard since you seem eager to both learn and kill and EVE can use more bold pirates/pvpers imho.
If anything, stick around in the public channel (details only through convo's) and ask anything you want. I'll even help you test setups and doa few small ship roams with you if time permits.
Aesh
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Ilik Tanikalot
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2010.08.04 10:58:00 -
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Just to add my 2 pence.
Yes you can enjoy it in a casual way. Personally I enjoy flying frigate sized vessels and have fun both in low-sec and 0.0. Start out in low-sec and get your feet wet. You will learn a lot by it and your mistakes will only make you a better pilot (granted you have to put a little thinking into it). Learn to use your D-Scan, it's your friend.
On the casual part. Does work for me very well. Granted I'd love to have some more money from time to time (ok, all the time) but who doesn't. You have to accept your losses and push on, eventually you will build yourself up a nice fleet of ships to work with.
As for corps. Though one. I flew solo in an NPC corp for most of my time and did just fine. Recently joined a corp with no BS attached so basically everyone enjoyed going at it solo there. I'm quite sure that a corp will help a lot but tbh I was a bit put off with all the 'serious business'-attitude of a lot of adverts. Mine went basically AWOL as most people in the corp have a lot of RL stuff now. So on corps I'd recommend you get one with 10+ preferably active members.
On sec status. While I do respect that a lot of pirates see -10 as a badge of honour I actually do not see a big point in it. Granted I would not call myself a pirate ... just someone looking for some fun in fights. Just be clear that a low sec status will hinder your hi-sec experience (and I'm just a bugger that likes it simple in that respect - meaning being able to go to hi-sec to do my own shopping).
All in all, buy a stack of ships with fittings, have a decent lump of money on the backburner to replace them and then go out hunting and getting hunted in lo-sec. Enjoy!
P.S.: There's a vid out there called The CCP Test which is about two 2 day old chars going for fights in 0.0. Might take it for its inspirational value.
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Fumitsugu
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Posted - 2010.08.04 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Aesheera Edited by: Aesheera on 04/08/2010 08:20:02 Confirming hereby that Baalnorn is mostly posting ****.
I started pvp at day 3. Punisher, dive into lowsec, see what you can do. succes and failure but good learning. I do believe that going out there and seeing what goes on is the best way to learn. 'Practice makes perfect' applies here.
I did this. Like Man said, there is nothing quite like pointing a Trimarked Abaddon in a Catalyst when you have about 1 mill SP, fending off his drones, and then making him eject.
Or succesfully sweet talking a carrier pilot who had evidently followed Baalnorn's advice and telling him that he can "rat in safety" for half an hour if he pays you 50 million ISK, while you're in a t1 fit frigate.
Or killing a Caracal and a Drake in a "sub-optimal" Incursus with an equally "unskilled" wingman in a Rifter.
Or killing an Omen with an Imicus when all the weapons you have are 3 Hornet I drones.
Seriously, come to lowsec, shoot some stuff, lose some ships, learn by doing.
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Aesheera
Amarr Hello Kitty Goes Commando
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Posted - 2010.08.04 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Aesheera on 04/08/2010 11:31:59 Btw nempthis, I didnt mention this clearly perhaps in my previous post.
You're looking for a small pirate corp to join, and im willing to consider you to get you started. Click the yellow link beneath my signature and give that thread a read. It'll explain the way we roll as pirates.
Personally I think that suits you. As I also said before, i might not get you in right away, but i am more than willing to help you get started, with ship choices, training plans, testdrives of new ships and taking you on a roam to see how lowsec can work out.
I'm by no means uber or claiming to be, but i am convinced I can be more than helpful to you.
Help you fit ships, and determine which course would be a recommendable one.
Again, just drop me a convo and i'll drag you into our public channel.
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.04 14:44:00 -
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While I think there is some logic to Thorian's thoughts, the idea that one needs a years worth of SP to be effective in PVP is just dumb.
One can easily train a fully T2 fit rifter(or incursus or punisher, probably not a merlin they are awfully skill intensive to be able to shoe horn a decent fit on) with decent support skills in about a month.
I personally don't think that just going down to low sec and losing ships is the best way to learn to PVP just like I don't think that getting dropped off in a combat zone with an M16 and some ammo is the best way to learn to be an infantryman.
Some people are going to do it and take to it like water obviously, Others aren't and are just going to be easy killmails for the more experienced players.
Personally I'd suggest putting a decent T2 rifter fit into EFT then import it into EveMon then add Amarr frigate 4, add the gunnery support skills to 4 and thermodynamics to 4, that's the core of your skill plan and will give you access to 2 good PVP frigates (rifter and punisher).Oh be sure to train armor, projectile, astrometric and shield rigging (preferably to 4)
Then head to Alentene/Tourier and join RVB to get some actual combat time. You won't learn much about low sec mechanics or hunting or scanning but you will learn a hell of a lot about the various ships people fly, how they are fit and what they are capable of. You'll also get rid of any combat jitters you might have really quickly.
Do that for a couple weeks or until your core skill plan is done peculating (or you just get bored) then go do the low sec blow up rifters thing.
That's my plan (well low sec, FW or WH's I haven't quite decided which yet) though I'm having so much fun in RVB I'll probably hang around here for a while longer.
One thing when considering who's advice to take look at the combat records of those giving said advise. BC ranking isn't a perfect indicator of pilot competence but you can tell a lot about how the pilot flies and if they are any good at it.
Aesheera for example is very credible. very high K/D ratio and most of the fights with a small number of involved parties probably not the biggest risk taker with that high a K/D but is indicative of someone who's really good at picking fights.
Lady Spank is a risk taker most of their kills are solo and the low K/D ratio suggests a willingness to engage when victory isn't certain.
Thorian is pretty fail, Very low number of kills period (I typically get more in a week than he's had in 2 years of play)not a risk taker and mainly flies around in blobs and his solo kills seem to be mostly against mission fits and other weak opponents.
Me? I've got a lot of combat experience and a good K/D ratio, I'm willing to take risks but the bulk of my experience is in small gang arranged evenly matched fights. So I know a lot about basic combat mechanics ship capabilities and fittings, but I'm not credible when it comes to much of the low sec mechanics and metagame. I'm also not the best solo pilot.
You've got a lot of good advice in this thread and some really bad stuff too. Determine who's most credible and weigh the advice appropriately.
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Kri Matar
Minmatar Final Agony B A N E
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Posted - 2010.08.04 16:58:00 -
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buy faction pirate ship, u r pirate. yarrr! Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Adida |
Amanda Mor
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Skex Relbore
I personally don't think that just going down to low sec and losing ships is the best way to learn to PVP just like I don't think that getting dropped off in a combat zone with an M16 and some ammo is the best way to learn to be an infantryman.
The reason they don't train new soldiers by dropping them off in a warzone with an M16 is because that soldier doesn't immediately re-spawn after dying, so you can't learn by dying. If soldiers would come back to life after getting shot or blown up, then it would be a much more viable way of training.
In eve you do, so you can actually use the experience you gain from fighting and losing. Obviously, you also read guides, fittings on BC, browse the forums, talk to pilots you killed or died against etc, as you're out there getting blown up; you don't just go out and lose 100 ships and hope some knowledge trickles into your brain.
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Idicious Lightbane
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:47:00 -
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Confirming to go out there and just do it, the sooner the better I learned pvp by bringing a ton of incursus's to Amamake and just roaming around the belts in there and surrounding systems. I had a year or 2 of SP mainly used to training for missions, I lost most of those incursus's without getting close to getting a kill, but every fight I learned something. Each time you get blown up ask yourself what YOU could have done to change the outcome of the fight, you'll generally be able to pick out something.
The faster you get out there you sooner you will learn ALOT of invaluable lessons you won't get from reading guides, learn to control the shaking hands syndrome etc ;-) It was some of the most valuable time I've had in EVE learning wise, and I got some awsome kills that feel amazing when just starting out (a few interceptors, cruisers etc) and encourage you to keep going.
So go for it, find a pirate corp that will take you in if you can and that is your thing, look forward to being ransomed by you some time
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Ashley Sky
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.08.04 23:00:00 -
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Most of the people in this thread are giving really bad advice for people wanting to play casually. It can be done.
If you want to PvP, you can't really be very effective as a solo, new player that just tries to go out and dominate at PvP. It just won't happen. New players are really effective in groups, but the fact of the matter is that EVE is not tailored for solo PvP, even for experienced players. You can easily have lots of fun as a tackler, scout, or DPS adder in a group, but solo, you're always going to be missing something.
That said, there's a lot of stuff to do casually as a single player, and I'm very effective at it. I PvP against people who are not expecting and/or prepared for the encounter. I grief missions in empire space, steal salvage, bounties, flipping cans, and getting players to shoot at me. But the ultimate, and I mean ultimate solo fun is joining other peoples corps and messing with them, killing them, or doing something that they don't expect.
True fun in this game isn't trying to win, it's trying to make exciting stories, and enjoy interactive entertainment. As a casual player, "Effective" shouldn't be your goal. "Entertained" should be your goal. This often isn't done by being the biggest and baddest kid on the block. Just be the most memorable. :)
I hope that's helpful.
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kiki mo
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.04 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: kiki mo on 04/08/2010 23:32:10 what Ashley Sky said ^^
I'm what you would consider a 'casual' player...I don't have a lot of free time, but I still have a lot of fun in Eve. What does that mean for me? It means that I don't treat Eve like a second job and waste all of my time grinding missions or mining to make a bunch of isk. It also doesn't mean that I don't go solo into lowsec where it's either empty or you have a bunch of 3 and 4 yr characters chasing you around a system to kill you. I didn't get involved with Faction Warfare either; I didn't want to sit in Nourv, waiting for some guy who is 15 jumps out just so they can make a 30 ship blob. Last; I didn't get into a big nullsec alliance because it just seemed too involved with the politics. There's still a bunch you can do and learn even while being a noob. Contact me in-game for some suggestions; I'm pretty much a noob but still have gotten a few kills, which were very exciting.
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Mytzso
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.05 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Nemphtis Edited by: Nemphtis on 01/08/2010 12:08:55 so perhaps this forum might be a better way to get the answers I seek.
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Nemphtis
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Posted - 2010.08.05 03:45:00 -
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I died about 30 minutes ago. I went to lowsec in a Rifter, was trying to chase down a ship I found with my directional scanner and I warped to a moon to see if the ship was around there. As soon as I finished warping I got destroyed swiftly, checked my death information to realise it was an outpost or whatever that fired upon me. Turns out these things will instantly fire at you in lowsec, lesson learned.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.05 04:04:00 -
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You actually have plenty of time to warp away before the pos shoots you. If you don't notice it's there though it's quite a nasty shock, haha.
Kudos working on your scanning skills though, scanner-fu is very important.
One other thing to learn is how to keep your pod alive. Mainly involves spamming warp to on a celestial BEFORE your ship exploded. The lag upon ship destruction can stop you getting a speedy warp executed after the explosion.
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Aesheera
Amarr Hello Kitty Goes Commando
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:14:00 -
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Edited by: Aesheera on 05/08/2010 08:14:26
Originally by: Nemphtis I died about 30 minutes ago. I went to lowsec in a Rifter, was trying to chase down a ship I found with my directional scanner and I warped to a moon to see if the ship was around there. As soon as I finished warping I got destroyed swiftly, checked my death information to realise it was an outpost or whatever that fired upon me. Turns out these things will instantly fire at you in lowsec, lesson learned.
And that's how you learn ;) Let's try to get some more questions answered this evening. Moon-warping in lowsec is not something we managed to cover haha. Oh well live and learn id say, 't is afterall, only a Rifter
Keep going though and the more you try, the quicker you get the hang of it. with the experience you start building up now while flying solo and being bold enough imagine where you'll be a year from now.
MILES AHEAD OF BAALNOOB THAT CHOSE TO GIMP HIS PRO-NESS BY WAITING FOR A YEAR.
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Nemphtis
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Posted - 2010.08.05 11:15:00 -
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So Skill-wise, here's what I'm doing at the moment.
I bought all the useable skillbooks I could find for the Learning category, including the one actually called Learning. I've trained each one to LV1, currently training them to LV2 and making sure Learning is the first one I train as it gives the rest a bit of a boost I think. I've basically made these my top priority in the skill list because I've been told they will allow me to learn other skills quicker as I level them up, so trying to get all of them to LV4.
Once those are done, I plan to go for the obvious upgrades that enhance my current fittings and get them to LV4. Really, most of them are LV3 already, but I've shied away from levelling them to four because that's when it starts taking an entire day to learn just one. This is more important than I thought because it doesn't just increase my weapon damage or how effectively I can repair shields, but more importantly some of these skills seem to reduce CPU and capacitor load which I've realised is a problem for me at the moment. I run of capacitor even if nothing but my armour repair is functioning, and I imagine that's pretty crap. Nearly got killed by NPC pirates in lowsec the first time I tried the Rifter in combat because of this, so I went back to station and removed a few parts for now until my skill training helps reduce their load on my overall ship performance.
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Aesheera
Amarr Hello Kitty Goes Commando
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Posted - 2010.08.05 11:43:00 -
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Good move. Make sure you train the Intelligence and memory boosting ones to 4 first - the rest of the learning skills (before you train the upgrades) use these two attributes to determine their repsective training speeds.
Once all the basics hit 4, proceed to advanced learning. Check their attributes or use EVEMON to see what's the quickest course to take to train these.
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Ard UnjiiGo
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn Its stupid to try to go out and pvp and run around lowsec when you dont have a grasp of the game yet nor the SP to really kill anything bigger than an NPC frigate.
It worked out better than just fine for me when I started.
I'm not naturally uber. I'm an old guy with a more than full-time job, kid and other responsibilities. "Casually" is the only play option available for me.
I'm also not an anomaly. I have lost track of the number of successful PvPers I have met that just jumped in during their first few days or weeks of game play.
I also still have a great deal of fun flying and shooting stuff in T1 frigs. In fact, I enjoy flying T1 frigs more now than when I had 10 to 20 mil SPs and was trying out HACs and Recons. Flying frigs is my favorite way to fly even after 50 mil SPs. It's also very conducive to a casual play style.
Thorian - You are stuck on promoting your particular limits as a player on every other new player. You are more than welcome to try to compose an ad hominem attack of my critique based on my BC stats. Much luck with that.
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kiki mo
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:58:00 -
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If you're set on the whole lowsec idea; try out these guys
http://thetuskers.blogspot.com/2009/10/recruitment-open-new-offices.html
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Nemphtis
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: kiki mo If you're set on the whole lowsec idea; try out these guys
http://thetuskers.blogspot.com/2009/10/recruitment-open-new-offices.html
Unfortunately their link to the recruitment page is broken.
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Goldman Suchs
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:36:00 -
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Thorian Baalnorn gives bad advice. It is rubbish to say that SP are all that matters. Low SP characters who understand the game mechanics can easily beat higher SP players who don't know what they are doing.
Learn to pvp in cheap disposable ships. Learn the importance of transversal velocity, signature radii etc
Amarr are the high damage dealers of Eve. Good for using lasers (which have instant damage unlike missiles) but not so good at ewar.
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Richard Christy
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn My friend of 10 something years got me to join eve a couple years ago.
Your friend has 10 years experience in Eve? o_O
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Aesheera
Amarr Hello Kitty Goes Commando
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:46:00 -
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Edited by: Aesheera on 06/08/2010 10:46:26
Originally by: Goldman Suchs
Amarr are the high damage dealers of Eve. Good for using lasers (which have instant damage unlike missiles) but not so good at ewar.
Amarr have impressive Ewar tbh. That is, if you're up against turret ships (Pilgrim, Sentinel) Or cap heavy ships (Curse, Pilgrim, Sentinel). *
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