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Greenwing
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Posted - 2005.01.31 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Logging is not a bad thing at all, but i think its bad to use it when there is no way out (9pt scramble on you, scorp only 4 low slots, so no way out).
At that moment its extremely lame to log off. You will never catch me doing this.
Well, the other way around is pretty lame too. Having a covert opps patrolling the area and all log-in at the same time when somebody's near.... In my opinion all these log-on/log-off tactics are lame, just log-in and fight. Don't stay logged-off till you know you can win/kill, or log-off when you're attacked.
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Donny
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Posted - 2005.01.31 11:47:00 -
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AvanCade: What the hell? I didn't log off when scrambled. I was in the fight, and when all my gang fellows had died or warped off, I went for the stargate. There were some shinra there trying to warp scramble me, but I jammed one and got away to another planet. I warped to another point & logged off. No use waiting for anyone to come & destroy my ship, is there?
So I don't know where you got the idea I logged off while being scrambled.
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Ange1
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Posted - 2005.01.31 12:09:00 -
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Because you were at a planet at the time you were being scrambled. When you log off, you get warped 1 mil km in a random direction. So naturally, the fact you hadn't warped off yet by the time we arrived and scrambled you, we assumed that you had logged off as we were trying to kill you. -------------------------
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2005.01.31 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ange1 Because you were at a planet at the time you were being scrambled. When you log off, you get warped 1 mil km in a random direction. So naturally, the fact you hadn't warped off yet by the time we arrived and scrambled you, we assumed that you had logged off as we were trying to kill you.
You assumed wrong I guess. When you log off at a planet you might get warped away. But in this case Donny logged off mid-warp from one planet to another, and apparently the game still puts put him on the warp destination (the planet). Had he continued playing he would have continued to get away like he did the first time.. I think it's perfectly cool though to log off when not having any hostiles near you (as - within 1000km). I mean, it's a game, one should have the right to stop playing it when one so chooses.
And as an afterthought, Shinra is the last corp that should argue about the ethics of logging on or off, they are quite skilled at logging in simultaniously into an ongoing skirmish.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.31 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Ryan
And as an afterthought, Shinra is the last corp that should argue about the ethics of logging on or off, they are quite skilled at logging in simultaniously into an ongoing skirmish.
Dude if you bring 4 times the numbers to engage us what do you expect us to do? Sit in a safe spot and bore both your and our guys into quitting eve? We are doing you a favour by logging off, it teaches you a valueable lesson inj the numerics of pvp. As for syncd logins, what can I say when the BFV server becomes stale we come and play eve. This is what is commonly called team work, try it.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2005.01.31 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown Dude if you bring 4 times the numbers to engage us what do you expect us to do? Sit in a safe spot and bore both your and our guys into quitting eve? We are doing you a favour by logging off, it teaches you a valueable lesson inj the numerics of pvp. As for syncd logins, what can I say when the BFV server becomes stale we come and play eve. This is what is commonly called team work, try it.
I wasn't talking about you guys logging off was I? Nope, not this dude. I am amazed though that you aren't even bothering to deny synching logins.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.31 13:36:00 -
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we have NEVER EVER used a login trap, any claim to the contrary is complete ass talking. We might well sync logins, but we arnt logging in to combat, we have just said "go take a break, be back at 20:00 ready to roll). Ther is not one single example where we have all logged in and imediately (or even within 5 mins) warped into combat. To claim otherwise is to lie.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2005.01.31 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante we have NEVER EVER used a login trap, any claim to the contrary is complete ass talking. ... To claim otherwise is to lie.
Ok, well let's just say you're innocent until proven guilty. Now I know you'll say this is ass talking but I'm really missing the point of synced logins? Please explain to me why one should synch logging in?
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.01.31 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Draco on 31/01/2005 14:35:17
Originally by: TornSoul Edited by: TornSoul on 31/01/2005 04:19:07
Originally by: AvanCade Some other thing worth mentioning, Donny, scorp pilot and resident (former resident ?) of Period Basis, logged off while being scrambled with 9points. Resulting in dissapearing.
If you dont want to die, get back in ur apoc and do some mining. PVP means dieing, getting a new ship, to die again !
I suggest you have a word with Bulles (I think thats the right spelling) and ask him his views on that. He dont seem to mind.
He jumped through a gate 1-2 days ago (in an arma if I recall), camped by 8-9 of our guys, so he was basically dead meat. Upon realizing this Bulles suddenly disappeared from local....
So get of your high horse.
(I would not normally bother to post this (and havent until now), as one ship more or less really doestn matter, but if theres one thing I cant stand its hypocracy)
This sounds a lot like your convo accusation. When asked for names, you provided one, non-Shinra pilot who was neither in gang or involved in our ops. Sorry, but you have no credibility.
BTW, bulles is the guy who blocked/unblocked (spam) us prior to a fight. Do what you do best and go get a CCP spawned ship for your scam.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Donny AvanCade: What the hell? I didn't log off when scrambled. I was in the fight, and when all my gang fellows had died or warped off, I went for the stargate. There were some shinra there trying to warp scramble me, but I jammed one and got away to another planet. I warped to another point & logged off. No use waiting for anyone to come & destroy my ship, is there?
So I don't know where you got the idea I logged off while being scrambled.
Your ship was not even moving towards any direction. And claiming to have logged before we got there is wrong, there would be no way we would be able to put 9 points on you.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 14:57:00 -
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And i can tell for a fact that we do not use login traps. My squads (CA timeperk)(have not been that many) asked me to use the login trap to get a couple of Stain guys. I refused ofcourse. Aside from that i refuse to participate at any login trap set by any commander or person.
I know 99% of my fellow corpmembers agree with me here.
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Your ship was not even moving towards any direction. And claiming to have logged before we got there is wrong, there would be no way we would be able to put 9 points on you.
recap : He logged in mid warp, HENCE he logged before you got there. What part is it exactly that you don't get?
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Your ship was not even moving towards any direction. And claiming to have logged before we got there is wrong, there would be no way we would be able to put 9 points on you.
If you log in warp, it's possible your ship continues to warp to the planet. If the ship is at the planet you can shoot/scramble it while the pilot is already logged-off. Also explains why his ship wasn't moving anymore ;)
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:15:00 -
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Ok lets see,
* i was almost in warp to a planet * received word of a scorp at planet 4 * cancelled warp * warp to planet 4 * arrive at planet 4 * fly 20km * lock and scramble scorpion
Now if that ISNT enough time for a scorp to warp out, then nothing is.
He logged while scrambled period.
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:22:00 -
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Yeah, its bull****. I have him in my buddy list and he logged after getting scrambled.
Try another excuse please.
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Ok lets see,
* i was almost in warp to a planet * received word of a scorp at planet 4 * cancelled warp * warp to planet 4 * arrive at planet 4 * fly 20km * lock and scramble scorpion
Now if that ISNT enough time for a scorp to warp out, then nothing is.
He logged while scrambled period.
Forum discussions 101: if all else fails make an unnumbered list.
like Greenwing said, just above your clever post, if you log off in mid-warp; chances are your ship still arrives at the planet, even though you are logged off.. Jeez.
He didn't log while scrambled. I guess you just can't deal with being wrong. Get over it.
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Ok lets see,
* i was almost in warp to a planet * received word of a scorp at planet 4 * cancelled warp * warp to planet 4 * arrive at planet 4 * fly 20km * lock and scramble scorpion
Now if that ISNT enough time for a scorp to warp out, then nothing is.
He logged while scrambled period.
Srry, but i can't imagine somebody who is being followed by a larger group waiting at a planet (not a moon or ss, but a planet !) to get shot ?? Don't forget that when you log USUALLY your ship warps away, but i've seen several times after loggin the ship stays at the same place. I've even once had an indy killed 5 minutes after i logged in an empty system, at a ss where i left it (and nobody had fired upon me the last 30 minutes)
The fact the scorp could have jumped away easily is the part which makes me think he really was logged off already.
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:33:00 -
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Thanks Greenwing, but I fear common sense is wasted upon these guys.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:34:00 -
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L o a d
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c r a p
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Donny
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:45:00 -
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sheesh, all this talk about me... I logged off when no-one was around. I don't know what my ship did after that. If you guys tried to gang******it, that's necrophilia and that's dirty.
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WildHope
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:54:00 -
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I haven't been the most active in-game recently, but:
Who da hell are ISL?
Wildhope ShinRa Curse Alliance (may it last 1000 generations) |
Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2005.01.31 16:00:00 -
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well you guys can flame all you like, I am just so happy that this thread is still alive, it must be one of the longest around
viva la period basis residents! death to the FA infidel!! (just to get us back on topic ;-))
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Tansien
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Posted - 2005.01.31 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Greenwing If you log in warp, it's possible your ship continues to warp to the planet. If the ship is at the planet you can shoot/scramble it while the pilot is already logged-off. Also explains why his ship wasn't moving anymore ;)
Here, we have Greenwing saying Donny logged out during warp.
Originally by: Donny sheesh, all this talk about me... I logged off when no-one was around. I don't know what my ship did after that. If you guys tried to gang******it, that's necrophilia and that's dirty.
Here, we have Donny saying he logged off at the planet with noone around
Now Donny we've got fraps of it so stop lying about it, you logged off while being warp scrambled. |
AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tansien
Originally by: Greenwing If you log in warp, it's possible your ship continues to warp to the planet. If the ship is at the planet you can shoot/scramble it while the pilot is already logged-off. Also explains why his ship wasn't moving anymore ;)
Here, we have Greenwing saying Donny logged out during warp.
Originally by: Donny sheesh, all this talk about me... I logged off when no-one was around. I don't know what my ship did after that. If you guys tried to gang******it, that's necrophilia and that's dirty.
Here, we have Donny saying he logged off at the planet with noone around
Now Donny we've got fraps of it so stop lying about it, you logged off while being warp scrambled.
pwnd
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Donny
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:26:00 -
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Just take a deep breath and read it again.
Here's what I said:
Originally by: Donny I logged off when no-one was around.
And this is what you make of it to prove your case:
Originally by: Tansien Here, we have Donny saying he logged off at the planet with noone around
You make planets. The mice want your resume.
I logged off in mid-warp. And even-though it's theoretically possible one of your corp buddies was in my warp bubble, I can assure you there wasn't.
And if you want your credibility even further destroyed, allow me to point out that Greenway didn't say I logged off during warp. He only explained what can happen when someone does. He wasn't around when I did. No-one was.
You see how it all makes sense now?
Come to think of it, I don't think the mice will want to see you anymore.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:33:00 -
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Indeed they dont want to see us anymore, they do something i refer as "Doing a Donny".
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Fangtooth
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:36:00 -
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Well, as i predicted, it has all come true,
now were just waiting on SE to come up with some lame excuse for attacking FA.
Hmmmm
/me Ponders
there are still a few ace cards to be played yet, and this thread is not dead
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:40:00 -
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No, thats FA's job. SE pack their bags and just move in, they dont need a lame excuse.
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Cpt Max
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Max on 31/01/2005 18:51:42
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:53:00 -
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Ding dong, have you checked SE allies ? Apart from Xetic they all hate FA, what allie should turn their back on SE ? Xetic won't, they are SE's lill brother, a lill brother i never had.
Oh and call the firedepartment, im on fire
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