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Yahuang Doujiao
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Posted - 2011.06.05 16:18:00 -
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I was expecting a good match, but all I got was a rigged fight. Good show, chaps!
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Seldarine
Minmatar Boats 'n Hoes WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.06.05 16:20:00 -
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Lame tbh. I don't mind meta gaming but a rigged fight like this should result in both teams being penalized. ______________________________
Seldarine
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Naomi Wildfire
Amarr Spricer WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.06.05 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Naomi Wildfire on 05/06/2011 16:39:22 Whats wrong, at least they are not spying each other.
They used the same setup, but not the same fits. I even feel entertained when i watch the battlereport.
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Yahuang Doujiao
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Posted - 2011.06.05 16:45:00 -
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They didn't need to spy on each other because they were on comms with each other trading ships until they each got enough points to qualify.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.06.05 16:50:00 -
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Sure are a lot of wheelin' and dealin' this year, Eve grows ever darker .. can't wait for the big bouts when pimp Flag Ships are on the line.
On the upside, these 5v5 seems to be eminently suited for the much overlooked tier1 BCs which is a nice change from Canes/Drakes as far as the eye can see
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Naomi Wildfire
Amarr Spricer WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.06.05 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Yahuang Doujiao They didn't need to spy on each other because they were on comms with each other trading ships until they each got enough points to qualify.
Okay, its unusual but as long as the fighting was real i couldnt care less. Both had the same starting conditions, unlike when one spies the other.
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Seldarine
Minmatar Boats 'n Hoes WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.06.05 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Naomi Wildfire
Originally by: Yahuang Doujiao They didn't need to spy on each other because they were on comms with each other trading ships until they each got enough points to qualify.
Okay, its unusual but as long as the fighting was real i couldnt care less. Both had the same starting conditions, unlike when one spies the other.
I don't think you get it. The fighting wasn't real, they staged it so they could each get max points. ______________________________
Seldarine
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Naomi Wildfire
Amarr Spricer WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.06.05 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Seldarine I don't think you get it. The fighting wasn't real, they staged it so they could each get max points.
That one is ofc gay
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.05 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Seldarine Lame tbh. I don't mind meta gaming but a rigged fight like this should result in both teams being penalized.
It's allowed by the rules so no it shouldn't result in penalties, also how would you even go about proving something like that ? They both lose style points, but since stuff like this doesn't happen after the pre-qualifiers it doesn't really matter much in the big picture.
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daint666
Minmatar Federation of Xenotech WILD BOARS
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Posted - 2011.06.05 21:51:00 -
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Even teams makes an even match. Less butthurt plox :DDD
or if you're intent on being that way http://at.eve-ic.net/9/index.php?view=match&id=37
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Yahuang Doujiao
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Posted - 2011.06.06 14:14:00 -
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lol, nice job trolling the reporter
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steave435
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:47:00 -
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This is Eve, and stuff like this happens in it, by design. |
Icylce
Frost Palace
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Posted - 2011.06.07 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Seldarine Lame tbh. I don't mind meta gaming but a rigged fight like this should result in both teams being penalized.
It's allowed by the rules so no it shouldn't result in penalties, also how would you even go about proving something like that ? They both lose style points, but since stuff like this doesn't happen after the pre-qualifiers it doesn't really matter much in the big picture.
I really wish for one 'elite pvp aliance' to fare very badly in this tournament, which would result in them having to go trough qualifiers next year. Then we would see how qualifying matches don't matter in the big picture.
Obviously you are right it is not stated in the rules that selling/rigging matches is not allowed. However:
The EVE Online Alliance Tournament is the ultimate battlefield in which the top pilots in EVE Online fight for the glory and honour of their alliance. 64 Alliances compete over 4 weekends of intense, explosive action.
As u can read it is a battlefield. That would indicate u are going to compete in pvp match.
Ship points values are as follows. Ship types not listed in the table are not allowed. (ship list, majority of combat ship types)
But still u can ask: Is it really pvp tournament? What if the point of this tournament is to determine the richest (aka match buying), or best cheating/ metagaming (aka match rigging) alliance?
Fitting Restrictions - This whole paragraph serves a upper wealth limit. The lower wealth limit is the entry fee. So while the 'poorest' still may not participate, we can clearly rule out it to be the competition to determine the richest. Simply because the most expensive modules are not allowed.
Penalties - I think this paragraph speaks for itself. Sanctions for breaking the rules. So cheating is not promoted as one of the ways of winning, quite on the contrary. It is penalized. So we probably are not looking for the best cheating alliance either.
To summ it up: - Tournament is a battlefield - most of the ships allowed are combat ships - census for modules - penalization of behavior against the rules
So from that we can derive the tournament takes place to determine to best pvp alliance in EVE.
The rules are there to keep the conditions of the fight 'fair' for everyone participating!
I would like to ask u a simple question: What do u think benefits the quality of the tournament better? If actually the best pvp teams from participants make it to the main competition? Or if the teams that rigg and buy their matches make it into the main competition? Should it be your pvp ability or your endless wallet and cheating methods that qualify u to the tournament?
Ok I lied it's not one question but I quess it is pretty much simple.
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daint666
Minmatar Federation of Xenotech WILD BOARS
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Posted - 2011.06.07 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: daint666 on 07/06/2011 14:12:27 I hope you're not calling us a rich and powerful power block here.
we have no B team, we cant afford bribes, we're not amazingly rich, we live in Venal NPC 0.0, in the middle of the playground that is NC space, we have barely 200 members (and most of them like men lol)
We're a good community and we work together well, always fighting outnumbered against blobs and the like and most of the time winning. Now if we dont win this alliance tournament, i damn well hope that an alliance like us does, cause i dont think i've ever heard of a 10 man fleet from some of these people, and unfortunately in the real game that's their advantage. Us on the other hand are a pure PvP alliance, through and through. Now thats OUR advantage ;)
Whoever wins ATIX, let it be an 'underdog', and quit whining about a fair fight with our only blues in this big universe.
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Icylce
Frost Palace
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Posted - 2011.06.07 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: daint666 Edited by: daint666 on 07/06/2011 14:12:27 I hope you're not calling us a rich and powerful power block here.
we have no B team, we cant afford bribes, we're not amazingly rich, we live in Venal NPC 0.0, in the middle of the playground that is NC space, we have barely 200 members (and most of them like men lol)
We're a good community and we work together well, always fighting outnumbered against blobs and the like and most of the time winning. Now if we dont win this alliance tournament, i damn well hope that an alliance like us does, cause i dont think i've ever heard of a 10 man fleet from some of these people, and unfortunately in the real game that's their advantage. Us on the other hand are a pure PvP alliance, through and through. Now thats OUR advantage ;)
Whoever wins ATIX, let it be an 'underdog', and quit whining about a fair fight with our only blues in this big universe.
No, no I was not calling u rich and powerful. I am merely disgusted by posting of ppl from one 'elite pvp alliance' that doesn't have to go trough qualifying process.
I really apologize I didn't intend for my post to look like I'm calling you rich and powerful. I actually intended to call u cheaters.
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daint666
Minmatar Federation of Xenotech WILD BOARS
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Posted - 2011.06.07 14:47:00 -
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As far as i'm concerned it was a fair fight, the ships setups were different and they live 2 jumps away, with similar members and environment so its only sensible they have similar ideas of PvP.
Btw, dont accuse people of cheating when what you're accusing them of isnt even against the rules, thats just silly.
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Icylce
Frost Palace
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Posted - 2011.06.07 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: daint666 As far as i'm concerned it was a fair fight, the ships setups were different and they live 2 jumps away, with similar members and environment so its only sensible they have similar ideas of PvP.
Btw, dont accuse people of cheating when what you're accusing them of isnt even against the rules, thats just silly.
I would love to see the video of this 'fair fight'
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Lee ChanKa
WEPRA CORP WILD BOARS
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Posted - 2011.06.07 15:16:00 -
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this fight was co2 vs wild boars, and check our kb last 2 year we fight against all eve and only co2 is blue..so i don't ****ing care how you call us..cheaters ok..
but where you was last tournament, when in GROUP stage Hydra kill all opponents and 1 ship left and they sell match during fight and all self destruct...all EVE know that..even they commented in studio live..so please we didn't get 1 isk from co2 or they from us..and i can tell you 100% it was fair fight at end..we say who win he win..
even if we sell match for 100 bil or co2, THERE IS NO RULE ABOUT THAT..so all haters can pull mine balls..stick to rules..you will c how ppl will sell their mach in live when group stage start..so wanted to c what you will tell there..or any other person who are spamming this ******ed tread...
regard lee aka ewqi
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Hei'di
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.07 19:32:00 -
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well spoken sweetheart!
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Argosus
Waverunners
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Posted - 2011.06.08 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lee ChanKa this fight was co2 vs wild boars, and check our kb last 2 year we fight against all eve and only co2 is blue..so i don't ****ing care how you call us..cheaters ok..
but where you was last tournament, when in GROUP stage Hydra kill all opponents and 1 ship left and they sell match during fight and all self destruct...all EVE know that..even they commented in studio live..so please we didn't get 1 isk from co2 or they from us..and i can tell you 100% it was fair fight at end..we say who win he win..
even if we sell match for 100 bil or co2, THERE IS NO RULE ABOUT THAT..so all haters can pull mine balls..stick to rules..you will c how ppl will sell their mach in live when group stage start..so wanted to c what you will tell there..or any other person who are spamming this ******ed tread...
regard lee aka ewqi
damn that google translate. This almost makes sense
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daint666
Minmatar Federation of Xenotech WILD BOARS
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Posted - 2011.06.08 14:56:00 -
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it'll make more sense if you read it in a serbian accent ;DDD
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tadijka
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Posted - 2011.06.09 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Lee ChanKa this fight was co2 vs wild boars, and check our kb last 2 year we fight against all eve and only co2 is blue..so i don't ****ing care how you call us..cheaters ok..
but where you was last tournament, when in GROUP stage Hydra kill all opponents and 1 ship left and they sell match during fight and all self destruct...all EVE know that..even they commented in studio live..so please we didn't get 1 isk from co2 or they from us..and i can tell you 100% it was fair fight at end..we say who win he win..
even if we sell match for 100 bil or co2, THERE IS NO RULE ABOUT THAT..so all haters can pull mine balls..stick to rules..you will c how ppl will sell their mach in live when group stage start..so wanted to c what you will tell there..or any other person who are spamming this ******ed tread...
regard lee aka ewqi
That was fair fight!!! Ps. Lee, my wallet still dont blink ( 100b )
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