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Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:09:00 -
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Edited by: Tobiaz on 22/06/2011 02:09:19
Originally by: Toanfoal
Originally by: davet517 I'm not getting the QQ here. Obviously, they mean for these things to be exclusive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but every year we have a tourney that generates cruisers and frigs that people buy for 20B and that they will never, ever fly.
So, not everyone gets to wear the monacle. It's a status symbol, like having an Adrestia in your hanger. If every other portrait you saw had one, nbd, but at these prices it'll be unusual. If that's the way CCP wants to play it V0V.
You're exactly right.
In fact my wife and I JUST got done talking (during this morning's patch wait of all things) about how (RL) rich people spend ridiculous amounts of money on clothing - she knows a seamstress who does work for some millionaire... the guy literally comes to town roughly once every 2 months and pays her hundreds of dollars to hem about 30 pairs of slacks. First off, they're probably very expensive pants... but the fact that he goes through 30 every couple of months... /boggle
There's money in catering to the uber wealthy in real life, why not in the virtual one, too.
The biggest problem is that this new direction signals a very different CCP. And looking at the extreme lack of real features of Incarna and where it DID put the focus on, the future for EVE looks bleak. That's why people are so upset.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/06/2011 02:11:51 MASSIVELY article over monocle debacle
Let the mockery of CCP begin!
And THANK YOU Massively for covering this nonsense!
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Mr Dilkington
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tobiaz
The biggest problem is that this new direction signals a very different CCP. And looking at the extreme lack of real features of Incarna and where it DID put the focus on, the future for EVE looks bleak. That's why people are so upset.
Yep Instead of adding features to this space PVP game we just got CCP almost begging us for cash.
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Fractal Muse
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:15:00 -
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I thought these were going to be MICRO-transactions... not transactions.
This pricing is way out of line.
sigh.
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Mars Theran
Caldari EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:15:00 -
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Edited by: Mars Theran on 22/06/2011 02:14:48
Think a little more along the lines of this, than your Calvin Kleins. You're looking at around $500 for an aluminum bracelet, and more than $900 for a simple silk blouse in store.
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Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries R-I-P
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:15:00 -
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Viritual goods that cost as much if not more then the real thing?
CCP have given themselves a licence to print money. I knew it would be terrible and i'm having nothing to do with it.
Now maybe the crackhead in CCP responsible can present themselves here and explain this crock of ****?
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Uncle Alf
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Dilkington
Originally by: Tobiaz
The biggest problem is that this new direction signals a very different CCP. And looking at the extreme lack of real features of Incarna and where it DID put the focus on, the future for EVE looks bleak. That's why people are so upset.
Yep Instead of adding features to this space PVP game we just got CCP almost begging us for cash.
And we have to wait months for features, yet they plan on releasing new clothes each week !! what a Joke.
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Galactina Evol
The Glistening
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Talthrus Edited by: Talthrus on 22/06/2011 02:06:54
Originally by: Soryn Kael The monocle shows up on your portrait right?
If so.. it's the absolute perfect item to rub it in people's faces that you have more isk than they do..
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1533269
That's what a monocle does to your portrait.
Edit: added link.
Well, if that is not the most perfect "bug" that karma has ever created. If this c*** stands, that bug will become reality.
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Shereza
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Henrica Gaufridus So let's see here. I could buy, T2 fit, and possibly insure SIX battleships, or I could buy that skirt that really flatters my fat ass.
Hmmmm.... I mean, I'm a girl, so I'm really torn here between "useful" and "makes my butt look cute".
/horriblejoke: Yeah, but you'll probably need the price of a couple titans to make that face look cute.
Originally by: Anna Maziarczyk Edited by: Anna Maziarczyk on 22/06/2011 01:22:43 Didnt that one Russian mmorpg Allods or somethign like that, do the same thing?
They were selling backpacks for like 50 bucks, swords for $1500....
The game died right after their cash shop fiasco......
Actually, IIRC their biggest fiasco was charging a fairly decent amount (not in terms of acceptability) for items that decurse your armor. The reason this was a fiasco was because these items were put on the market right after the cursing of gear upon death was implemented!
That said it used to cost about $30 or $50 for their 28 or 32 slot bags, I forget which, but they've since been replaced with 50 "gPotatoes" "Token of the Explorer" items which have this description: "Multiples of this item can be brought to the Goblin Bnaker in your faction's capital to increase the size of your bag. The number of items needed to increase the size of your bag is dependant upon the current size of your bag."
I'm thinking the cost of those larger capacities just went up exponentially now that it's somewhat hidden from players. 72 slot bank boxes are 2800 gp, however, while the 36 slot ones are 900. That's $9 for the first +12 slots IIRC.
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On a more serious (first response) and on-topic (second) note, you all are /nerdraging so hard it's just silly. Now before you get your collective internet panties, boxers, boyshorts, thongs, tangas, briefs, bikinis, hi-cut, low-cut, rio-cut, uncut, split-bottom, crotchless, g-strings, v-strings, unitards, and loincloths in a further knot consider this. Nobody is forcing you to pay for this over-priced junk. There isn't even anything in the lineup worth buying now so why so serious?
I'll grant it's not a good precedent and dosn't bode well for future item prices when useful items become available, but here's another thing to consider. People were already whining up a storm about buying ships from the cash shop and now here's CCP indicating that people will probably be paying more for these vanity ships than they would for T3 faction variants of said ships (yes, T3 and faction combined in an impossible, and if it ever were incredibly expensive, bastard). Think about it for a moment. You might pay the equivalent of 10b isk for that neon green scorpion you wanted. With obscenely obsurd prices like that it's certainly not going to break the game environment.
Another issue is just how common these vanity items are supposed to be. All the blithering from the idiot being quoted aside (whether legitimate or faked) high prices are conducive to high rarity. If CCP intends to separate the haves from the have nots visually as well as functionally that is their prerogative and if you wish to solve the issue you simply have to become a have.
Finally, these items will eventually hit the isk market and at that point the price will drop, perhaps sharply. Once you buy your 1371m isk space monacle (love that it costs more than a cheap faction fit carrier) you might only be able to resell it for 800m or 700m because most people won't pay 1.3b for such an ugly piece of junk.
I honestly don't think I'll ever purchase an item for aurum if these prices are indicative of CCP's intents and goals for the cash shop. I find the prices to be absurdly high. I do not, however, feel incensed or outraged enough to /nerdrage over an optional aspect of the game that has no bearing on what I actually do in it.
Now if we could use aurum to buy guns for mercs in Dust514...
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Unoriginality
Gallente Unoriginal Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:16:00 -
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I opened the NEX store, saw stupid prices, promptly closed it. The End.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Selene D'Celeste And the destruction of what was once one of the most respected and well-positioned MMO developers in the world continues.
Just funny to watch isn't it.
They had it all. Wanted moar! Lost it all.
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sixfortyk
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:18:00 -
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Sinks and Faucets
You guys do realise that you can buy PLEX with ISK yeah?
Go out and make some ISK, buy PLEX on the market and spend it on in game items if you cant afford the RL cash. While you are doing that the folk who have already done said task will be creating a demand for the PLEX while satiating their pea**** needs with monocles and the like.
If you weren't jealous them the fashion market would fail - so maybe its not broken after all
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Toanfoal
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:19:00 -
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I could spend more on this dog collar from Gucci:
http://www.gucci.com/us/styles/247244FP4IG9774#
CCP is just giving many of you the opportunity to do in Eve what you will never do in real life - show off how filthy rich you are. |
BBJ Shepard
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:20:00 -
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http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/21/controversy-brewing-over-eve-online-microtransactions/
Got muted for linking this lol )0) \0/ (0( |
FatRaps
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Toanfoal I could spend more on this dog collar from Gucci:
http://www.gucci.com/us/styles/247244FP4IG9774#
CCP is just giving many of you the opportunity to do in Eve what you will never do in real life - show off how filthy rich you are.
Yep but this game requires more intellect than most and intelligent people dont buy that sort of crap.
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Brannor McThife
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:21:00 -
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Can't wait till they make those monacles - like everything in eve - destructable... like, unless you remember to strip your clone before getting into your pod, any clothing items that aren't generic, can be lost when you get podded...
And then CCP, add what was on the clone to the killmail when it gets podded so we can all laugh at the dude who loses a 2 billion isk clone - before REAL implants...
Macrotransactions ftl...
-G
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: BBJ Shepard http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/21/controversy-brewing-over-eve-online-microtransactions/
Got muted for linking this lol
LOL, I saw that.
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Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:22:00 -
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It is much, much easier to lower prices later than to raise them.
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Silver Night
Caldari Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Toanfoal I could spend more on this dog collar from Gucci:
http://www.gucci.com/us/styles/247244FP4IG9774#
CCP is just giving many of you the opportunity to do in Eve what you will never do in real life - show off how filthy rich you are.
If I want to show off, I can just fly a Machariel, and you know what?
More people will see it.
Anyway, it isn't really the cost itself, so much as the huge disconnect between CCP and the player base that it implies, and what it might say about who is driving things over at CCP at the moment. Until now, I'd felt fairly confident it was the people actually making the game.
CCP, when they have screwed up in the past, have done so mostly in being careless or over-reaching - even with things like boot.ini. I've been there for all those screw-ups, and they didn't worry me as much as this one, because they didn't seem like just plain stupidity like this one does. --------------
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Lord Kazuhiro
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:23:00 -
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I'd try and look at this as a cup half full moment. But I can't afford to, seeing as CCP is charging 24,000 aurum for the cup, and 8,000 for the water.
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Marwood Ford
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Desert Ice78 CCP have given themselves a licence to print money.
Could have got away with it too, but they're using it to print three thousand dollar bills.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:24:00 -
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MAS+SIVE TRANS+AC+TIONS
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Kireiina
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:25:00 -
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I guess Eve revenue is dropping and they need more money to fund WoE (world of Emo) and Dust development.
Thanks for the laugh CCP. And you're going to find out how hard it is to keep subscriber numbers up when you are doing nothing to advance the game and losing the faith of your players.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Silver Night
Originally by: Toanfoal I could spend more on this dog collar from Gucci:
http://www.gucci.com/us/styles/247244FP4IG9774#
CCP is just giving many of you the opportunity to do in Eve what you will never do in real life - show off how filthy rich you are.
If I want to show off, I can just fly a Machariel, and you know what?
More people will see it.
Anyway, it isn't really the cost itself, so much as the huge disconnect between CCP and the player base that it implies, and what it might say about who is driving things over at CCP at the moment. Until now, I'd felt fairly confident it was the people actually making the game.
CCP, when they have screwed up in the past, have done so mostly in being careless or over-reaching - even with things like boot.ini. I've been there for all those screw-ups, and they didn't worry me as much as this one, because they didn't seem like just plain stupidity like this one does.
Mistakes happen, but lately there have been no mistakes, but legitimately poor choice making. ______________________________
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Dimitri Fukoyama
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:25:00 -
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Edited by: Dimitri Fukoyama on 22/06/2011 02:27:08 Can you beleive the bean counters who come up with this ****?
Im pretty sure right up until patch hits he was like:
Oh yea, Minmatar wallpaper, 3500 aurum per square meter.
Internet fishbowl: 5000 aurum
Internet fishbowl deluxe: 7500 aurum
Rocket cofee table lamp: 10000 aurum
THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS IN THE SANDBOX!!!
P.S. Massively article is up:
http://massively.joystiq.com/
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Chewiest Bong
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Mistakes happen, but lately there have been no mistakes, but legitimately poor choice making.
Because of this guy: CCP Zinfandel(Aka Assbag)
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Silver Night
Caldari Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:28:00 -
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Hell, I'm an RPer (and a bittervet who stays docked most times anyway, so I'm always looking at my character now and I have a lot of disposable IG income). We're the little dot in the middle of the target group for this sort of fluff.
When people like me aren't buying, it probably means almost noone is going to be buying. --------------
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Judicator Saturnius
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:28:00 -
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Thread needs more sabre rattling and sub cancelation threats.
vOv
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Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries R-I-P
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Shereza
On a more serious (first response) and on-topic (second) note, you all are /nerdraging so hard it's just silly. Now before you get your collective internet panties, boxers, boyshorts, thongs, tangas, briefs, bikinis, hi-cut, low-cut, rio-cut, uncut, split-bottom, crotchless, g-strings, v-strings, unitards, and loincloths in a further knot consider this. Nobody is forcing you to pay for this over-priced junk. There isn't even anything in the lineup worth buying now so why so serious?
Shereza, I fully agree, and I bet that it will be CCP's first responce. What is making my blood boil is the amount of man hours and effort that is being wasted on this junk while the list of fixes and broken play mechanics gets longer and longer with each passing expansion, all of it to me fixed soon!!!!!
CCP: Consistency since 2003 |
Chewiest Bong
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Judicator Saturnius Thread needs more sabre rattling and sub cancelation threats.
Already canceled 3 accounts. It ain't no threat son.
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