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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:46:00 -
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That is a 90nm Windsor core for one (Known to get very hot for a LONG time now)
And on top of that it is 125W That is ALOT of heat to move and so if your stock fan has even a small amount of dust it will get hot quick. That is life. NOTHING to do with CCP. But YOUR failure to anticipate the cooling needs of your computer.
If you cant handle EVE you cant handle a tool like Prime95 which truly tests your cores. Therefore your cooling is bad. Get it serviced or learn to put a better cooler on yourself.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:58:00 -
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Edited by: Zachstar on 22/06/2011 04:59:55
Originally by: Varesk Edited by: Varesk on 22/06/2011 04:51:47 considering my temp spiked over 30c from CQ i would say my comp runs fine.
running 3 accts before this expansion my temp NEVER rose above 50c. now i dont even want to log the other two in due to this. if one acct. raises it 30c then 30 x 3 = 90 which would fry my cpu.
thank you for not helping and making yourself look like a tool.
edit, this reply was for the bad poster under my op.
Call it bad all you want but it is the truth. If you cant pass EVE in temps you cant pass Prime95 therefore by most modern standards your cooling is NOT able to handle your TDP.
Blaming CCP for actually using the resources of your computer to render their game is what is not helping here.
Also your math is bunk. A CPU cant go past 100 percent load.
Originally by: stoicfaux CQ seems to max out CPUs and GPUs. My gtx460 fan kicked into high gear and the noise drove me to disable CQ.
Other folks are also reporting similar heat issues with CQ.
Have you at any point changed the Interval in graphics from one to Immediate? If so that is giving your video card NO chance to rest between frames. The FPS gain is minimal yet it causes your card to run much harder than it ought to be. Yes your card needs to be able to handle its TDP but if the fan is annoying or using too much power you ought to make sure that is atleast to one. (At fullscreen you can go higher as well)
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Zachstar Also your math is bunk. A CPU cant go past 100 percent load.
Only an idiot confuses load with temperatures. Now kindly, leave the thread.
At 100 percent load a CPU displaces it max TDP. That is why a company puts the TDP on the box for the core at stock clock. If your cooling cant handle the max TDP listed it is NOT CCPs fault but yours or the person responsible for servicing the PC.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Callha Ri Same here, got an AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 940, @ 3000 MHz (x4) and an ATI HD 4890, and CQ is making my computer scream and overheat like there is no tomorrow.
From reading the recent posts that have been posted in the forums, there is obviously an issue with CQ and some computers, most of the issues are encountered with AMD platforms from what I have read, but I am not sure if it's specific to AMD.
The first reply to op obviously knows nothing about what he is saying, just trying to defend I don't know what exactly. Don't waste your time with him, just skip his post.
So your are saying that your cooling does not have to cool down a CPUs max TDP? If so I question your knowledge on the subject.
Your fans screaming and the cooling system is working to cool the PC? That is what it is DESIGNED to do! In the older days without fan controllers CPU fans were expected to run at full blast all the time. Only HTPC computers are EXPECTED to remain quiet.
You bought a big powerful CPU and expected to NEVER push it to max TDP. Well that is your fault. Not CCPs I have a Phenom II X3 720 overclocked and I bought the proper cooling for it and TESTED it with Prime95. Guess what? I am running CQ just fine.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Varesk i am not using stock fans.
kthx.
So? There are many crap cooling systems out there. If your cooling system cant handle your CPUs max TDP (More if its overclocked) It isn't right for the CPU and needs to be replaced or serviced.
EVE online CANNOT push a core past its Max TDP at stock clocks and voltage. If you changed these guess again who's fault it is? (Hint: Not CCP)
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Zachstar
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Zachstar Also your math is bunk. A CPU cant go past 100 percent load.
Only an idiot confuses load with temperatures. Now kindly, leave the thread.
At 100 percent load a CPU displaces it max TDP. That is why a company puts the TDP on the box for the core at stock clock. If your cooling cant handle the max TDP listed it is NOT CCPs fault but yours or the person responsible for servicing the PC.
However, just because your CPU is at maximum load does not mean it cannot go to higher temps. Reading up on things is all well and good, but if you don't walk the walk, you shouldn't talk the talk.
TDP is in Watts NOT degrees. If your cooling is bad the Watts cant dissipate and therefore heat buildup. Simple Physics.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:25:00 -
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Being rude does not help you. And F@H isn't evidence as it can be reduced by more or by percent. Also because it is GPU these days it does not truly max out a CPU just nearly so.
Folks I have explained the issue with CPU heat and TDP if you want more info I suggest looking it up or looking at the website of your CPU and GPU vendor. posting here any further after this when people want to just blame CCP then tend to their own cooling needs is just doing disservice to the threads that are trying to get CCPs attention of serious issues.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 06:18:00 -
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I don't like water cooling because many seem to forget to cool the MOSFETS. I was told a good system will run 2-3 hundred which sounds right. You would not want to cool a big ole hemi with a V4s cooler now would ya?
Tho I have to admit I would LOVE to be able to run those massive overclocks with it.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: crymyname
Originally by: Zachstar Being rude does not help you. And F@H isn't evidence as it can be reduced by more or by percent. Also because it is GPU these days it does not truly max out a CPU just nearly so.
Folks I have explained the issue with CPU heat and TDP if you want more info I suggest looking it up or looking at the website of your CPU and GPU vendor. posting here any further after this when people want to just blame CCP then tend to their own cooling needs is just doing disservice to the threads that are trying to get CCPs attention of serious issues.
BUT YOU HAVE NOT EXPLAINED WHY IT'S HAPPENING .. there are more games out there that have better graphics and use less resouses on the pc ..the power draw on my pc has gon thru the roof .. my 12v rail drops to 11.7v .. explain that ?
Running a PSU not designed for max power draw of all your components? CCP sure as hell cant affect 12V rails.
Almost all games out there are capped in some way. If say your video memory fills up then the load on the GPU itself stays at a certain percent. Or vice versa. EVE is just managing to balance things enough to get the most work out of all. Yes it will drop some with patches but don't expect huge changes.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I am using in on an Asus Netbook with ION video card and it seems to work just fine. If a netbook can manage CQ...
I got my parents an ION 1 based system. It is quite amazing how much of a punch they put into that package.
Ion 2... That was crap by comparison tho. Very little gain for an increase in power.
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