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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.01 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Abominare The stupid here is unbearable.
Ill let you in on a secret any money you've ever spent on a video game was used to make the next one!
YouÆre not helping the stupid quotient.
You claim that all the money everyone spent from day one on eve was used to make some game other than eve. Is that your secret?
I guess no company could ever start their first game then right? Of course they can. There are many ways you can start a new game and get funding for what you need other than squeezing the players of your first successful game.
Its not like ccp needs to spend every dime it makes on eve for eve. But when everyone acknowledges (even ccp) many parts of the game desperately needs work yet its clear ccp will not address these issues for *years*they should not expect players to keep paying them.
Only an idiot will keep paying for a broken product if the company makes it clear that they will never fix it. So everyone who wanted improvements and fixes for so many different things in this game will eventually get the picture and start leaving the game.
IÆm not angry at ccp. ItÆs just that they decided to put their resources into something I and many other subscribers are not interested in. So I and others unsubscribe. Once they work on what I find interesting then I will re-subscribe. No hard feelings we are just trying some transparent communication techniques.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.01 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Jaehawn why isn't anyone upset that they are taking that money to create another game?
Because it's their money and they can do what they want with it, and because that's how the software industry works: you use the old project to (in part) pay for the new project.
"in part"?? CCP has 22 devs assigned to the inspace/gameplay part of eve. There are 124 devs in eve the rest are assigned to things like links for dust and incarnatransactions. Incarna adds no gameplay to eve unless you consider typing your credit card number into the computer to buy virtual clothes game play. It is mainly a method to develop wod characters and squeeze eve players for more money.
But that 124 devs are only the "eve devs" That number does not include the main dust devs, or the WOD devs. If those games have half of the devs eve has then over 90% of the developers are working on things other than gameplay for eve!
They have practically abandoned eve. You may be happy with eve as it is and not think it needs work. But others do. I am one of them. I see that there are no plans to even assign more devs to the gameplay part of eve so I am unsubbing. ItÆs pretty easy to see that I am not the only one who broke this code.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.01 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 Because 8 years of success and growth is a sign of a poor business plan?
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Are you saying they never put the bulk of the profits of eve back into eve? If you admit they probably used to put the profits of eve back into the development of eve, then you must admit their business plan changed. That is because they certainly are not putting hardly any profits from eve into further development of it now.
Until they start making development of eve gameplay a priority again eve will be dead end game.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.01 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 18 months of heavy development in other area's, clearly stated about a year ago.
Pretty straight forward, no surprises there.
Apparently the "code" is called the alphabet.
That was in june of 2010. So are we going to see the majority of those 124 devs reassigned back to gameplay features of eve in december 2011? Or is the bulk going to remain in incarnatransactions?
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.01 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lu'Marat Edited by: Lu''Marat on 01/07/2011 16:39:17 OP: Wait... "why isn't anyone upset?"...
Don't get me wrong bro but... where have you been the last two weeks? 90% of the forum rage boils down to "they are ruining my game to make monies for a game I don't care about." (short-sighted as that may be.)
Yeah but I doubt this "CSM - CCP joint statement" will tell us how many devs ccp intends to assign to eve gameplay and when.
They are trying to focus on smaller problems while ignoring the elephant in the room.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.01 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Villoso It's not "our" money. We paid them for access to the game. Now its theirs. If you don't want them to use it for something else, don't give them your money.
Yep thats it. If you don't want to pay for and play a dead end game don't do it. If you do then go ahead and give them your money, so they can use it to develop WOD Dust and incarnatransactions.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.01 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Llambda They're not using "our" money for other projects. They're using their money for other projects.
As much as I loathe a lot of what CCP has done lately, I can't really fault them for that.
I don't really think its a matter of "fault."
Its more a matter of my own business/personal decision. If CCP is no longer going to assign substantial devs to gameplay in eve it is a dead end game. I am not interested in spending my time and money on a dead end game.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.01 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Haven Wind Can I vote this for the most 'I dropped out of school at a young age' thread title ever?
Unless we cancel our subscriptions ccp will be spending our money (that we now own) on things other than eve gameplay.
So right now that money in your account is yours. If want to give your money to ccp so you can play a dead end abandoned game and they can develop dust, wod and incarnatransactions, go ahead. Thats not for me.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.01 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: jackaloped on 01/07/2011 23:29:25
Originally by: Raven Aldura
Originally by: jackaloped
Originally by: Haven Wind Can I vote this for the most 'I dropped out of school at a young age' thread title ever?
Unless we cancel our subscriptions ccp will be spending our money (that we now own) on things other than eve gameplay.
So right now that money in your account is yours. If want to give your money to ccp so you can play a dead end abandoned game and they can develop dust, wod and incarnatransactions, go ahead. Thats not for me.
You don't have to explain. Your lack of knowledge of basic business is obvious enough already.
Did you know that Sears holdings owns Lands End? How can you stand knowing that when you buy a sweater a portion goes to advertise a dishwasher somewhere?
You fail to see the difference between paying for a subscription and paying for a sweater. The key is when you are asking people to pay a subscription you are hoping they keep paying in the future. Not just the one time deal. Therefore you have to make them think they will get value for those future dollars you want them to give to you.
Here is an analogy where the phone connection from a company = gameplay in eve. Its more like I pay for phone service for a month and say: ôhey the service is so bad I can't hear people over the phone.ö
Phone company : Yes well we know it needs work but, well, why don't you buy a new ringtone for your phone?
I respond: well I don't really need a new ringtone I can hear the ring fine but the connection needs work.
Phone company: Well yes we hear your concerns and acknowledge the connection sucks but are not going to work on the connection we are too busy making new ringtones that you can buy at an extra cost.
I respond: Your not ever going to spend any the money we subscribers pay to you, to improve the connection?
Phone company: ItÆs no longer your money once you pay it, to us. (smug) It then becomes our to do with as we please.
Now of course there is nothing illegal about the phone company here. They are indeed within their rights. But you are the one who lacks basic business sense if you think I will stay subscribed to their service.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.02 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zyress
And yet still you are here... *sigh*
Yes my alt is still here until august 14thor 19th something like that. I buy 6 month subscriptions. My 2 main subscriptions ran about 2 months ago.
I really think eve could be great so I am posting in hopes that ccp will put more devs eve gameplay - inspace - features. But I suppose if you guys will keep paying ccp for a broken and half finished game they will never need to do that.
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