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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2005.02.28 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Rawthorm on 28/02/2005 16:11:01 LOL you FA have no idea how many times you came close to me.
This was from your little trap in Z30 a few days ago:
http://shinra.sgnonline.com/scrape.jpg
Good job on finaly getting me
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Entreri Finwe
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Posted - 2005.02.28 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Tobiaz m0o killing the first Imperial Apoc was frontpage news as well. This isn't anything different.
Imperial apoc cant be gotten with agent missions ^_^
So, you are saying that PvP = PvNPC? --- Auir Sacra Fames "The cursed hunger for gold" |
ColWolfe
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:06:00 -
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Personally I think its a good story. I don't see any gloating in it. Remarking on such a rare ship type kill is worthy of a post. I see praise given on both side.
<S> to Rawthorn for daring to take such an expensive and rare ship into PvP in the first place.
*Personally, I love the Shinra smacktalk, shows the face of our enemy* :)
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Valeria Devereux
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Posted - 2005.02.28 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Lol, FA blow up a ship, and immediatly i see 3 threads rising about omg we killed a faction ship. I dont get it. Its a ship, ships destroy and be destroyed.
Great defense fleet this, great fleet that... all you guys did is blow up a faction ship, and you immediatly claim you've won the war lol.
And if you want the war to be over, leave Fountain space and don't look back.
Wow...talk about making things up as you go along that have zero basis in fact! Par for the course with you lot, though!
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.02.28 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm Edited by: Rawthorm on 28/02/2005 16:11:01 LOL you FA have no idea how many times you came close to me.
This was from your little trap in Z30 a few days ago:
http://shinra.sgnonline.com/scrape.jpg
Good job on finaly getting me
Hahahhaah, thats awesome ________________________________________________________
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Muugatuu
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Posted - 2005.02.28 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Lol, FA blow up a ship, and immediatly i see 3 threads rising about omg we killed a faction ship. I dont get it. Its a ship, ships destroy and be destroyed.
Great defense fleet this, great fleet that... all you guys did is blow up a faction ship, and you immediatly claim you've won the war lol.
And if you want the war to be over, leave Fountain space and don't look back.
If FA had been the one to lose the Caldari Navy Raven, you would've come running straight to the forums about how awesome Shinra is and how much FA sucks.
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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2005.02.28 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Muugatuu
Originally by: AvanCade Lol, FA blow up a ship, and immediatly i see 3 threads rising about omg we killed a faction ship. I dont get it. Its a ship, ships destroy and be destroyed.
Great defense fleet this, great fleet that... all you guys did is blow up a faction ship, and you immediatly claim you've won the war lol.
And if you want the war to be over, leave Fountain space and don't look back.
If FA had been the one to lose the Caldari Navy Raven, you would've come running straight to the forums about how awesome Shinra is and how much FA sucks.
I wont deny it. I probably would have, but as a dig in an existing post and not a whole topic claiming its the end of everything
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.28 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Muugatuu
Originally by: AvanCade Lol, FA blow up a ship, and immediatly i see 3 threads rising about omg we killed a faction ship. I dont get it. Its a ship, ships destroy and be destroyed.
Great defense fleet this, great fleet that... all you guys did is blow up a faction ship, and you immediatly claim you've won the war lol.
And if you want the war to be over, leave Fountain space and don't look back.
If FA had been the one to lose the Caldari Navy Raven, you would've come running straight to the forums about how awesome Shinra is and how much FA sucks.
For starters ill never notice if i shot a faction ship or not, i rarely check my killmails. On top of that, i havent started a thread for months in Alliance-involved fora. Next i already know how awesome Shinra is, killing a faction ship would not be a confirmation of that, it would only take us a small step towards our goal.
And before i post, i always think if i would have done the same. And no i would not, i would keep it in corp chat.
Oh and to understand the thread, you have to be able to read between the lines, but obviously im seeing too much, or everyone else is not seeing anything.
AC
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Percivs
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Posted - 2005.02.28 18:36:00 -
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Authors comment, not the position of Fountain Alliance. Thank you to those pilots who recognize the post for what it was: An attempt to recognize the courage and the losses suffered by those fighting the Fountain region.
However, I think it's curious that the Shinra forum warriors who have posted in this thread would attempt to downplay the loss of a ship this costly when Fountain Alliance (and namely myself) have gone to great lengths to provide such a well rounded perspective of events. I took the time to speak with Rawthorm directly and confirm 13 of the 18 kills that he claimed (I don't doubt he had more kills, but unfortunately, he could not provide evidence when we spoke.)
Please note that not one of the people in Shinra who have flamed this thread have spent similar energy to contact me regarding this post. From responses here, I hardly think that Shinra would have been as fair were the situation reversed and a Fountain Alliance pilot had lost a Caldari Raven Navy Issue.
This is what they call a Public Relations coup. You've given us such a better story than just us costing you a Raven Navy Issue that was fitted to the gills with named and faction modules. You've belitted your own pilots courage and sacrifice, and all the damage he did do, and the respect that we paid him, with your less than mature respones.
I again extend my respect for the boldness and courage that Rawthorm exhibited for flying such an rare, expensive and technologically advanced piece of machinery in to space hostile to him. --- "All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and honest good will exert upon events in the political field" - A.E. |
Percivs
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Posted - 2005.02.28 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm
Originally by: Muugatuu . . . If FA had been the one to lose the Caldari Navy Raven, you would've come running straight to the forums about how awesome Shinra is and how much FA sucks.
I wont deny it. I probably would have, but as a dig in an existing post and not a whole topic claiming its the end of everything
Hrm. I dislike making this post and I hope it's just an misunderstanding on the way you phrased things. I spoke with you about this prior to making the original post for this thread, and I was very clear for the more than 40-75 minutes (I don't have the logs on me to give an exact time) that we talked that I was doing a report on this.
You even expressed your appreciation for my taking the time to do this story, and that was after I had given you the chance to read the draft prior to posting. Which you might note has not changed from the last time you viewed it (except for correcting a spelling mistake on your name and replacing "thru" with "through". )
Again, I hope that your phrasing is just a mistake in wording. And I also hope that if the tables are ever reversed that you show the respect that I offered to you by checking the story of everyone involved prior to writing your final story.
--- "All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and honest good will exert upon events in the political field" - A.E. |
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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2005.02.28 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Percivs
Originally by: Rawthorm
Originally by: Muugatuu . . . If FA had been the one to lose the Caldari Navy Raven, you would've come running straight to the forums about how awesome Shinra is and how much FA sucks.
I wont deny it. I probably would have, but as a dig in an existing post and not a whole topic claiming its the end of everything
Hrm. I dislike making this post and I hope it's just an misunderstanding on the way you phrased things. I spoke with you about this prior to making the original post for this thread, and I was very clear for the more than 40-75 minutes (I don't have the logs on me to give an exact time) that we talked that I was doing a report on this.
You even expressed your appreciation for my taking the time to do this story, and that was after I had given you the chance to read the draft prior to posting. Which you might note has not changed from the last time you viewed it (except for correcting a spelling mistake on your name and replacing "thru" with "through". )
Again, I hope that your phrasing is just a mistake in wording. And I also hope that if the tables are ever reversed that you show the respect that I offered to you by checking the story of everyone involved prior to writing your final story.
I wasnt refering to you mate. The time you took to contact me and make sure this story satisfied both sides reasonably was VERY much aprechiated. A proper press anouncement definatly beats the usual OMFG we PWN'ED A CNR!
My post was aimed at the post Votf made on the other section and I should have made that clearer. Sorry.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2005.02.28 21:46:00 -
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HA! I think I just won like...100isk or something! I stood as the sole proclamer that this ship would be used in PvP somewhere and that it would do some realy nice damage before and during its death. Seems like I was right all the way. PAY UP BAMSE!
Awesome picture when cloaked there as well! And massive respect for taking it for a spin, I would have done same, probably would have lost it much faster than you but still...
Was a cool bit of "fiction" in the beginning here as well!
Cheers, LOWA
Oh! Yeah! Huh! MC - Going funky all over your clone baby! |
Roy Focker
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Posted - 2005.03.01 03:15:00 -
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Edited by: Roy Focker on 01/03/2005 03:25:17 Edited by: Roy Focker on 01/03/2005 03:16:07 What I find funny is the all the hatred towards a group boasting about thier kill. We are not talking about killing some Bantam here. Oh noes! The British Empire in WW2 was a bunch of lamers because they were happy they destroyed the Bismark! Remember, it was just a ship.
Your lack of respect and downright ignorance is disgusting. I swear some of you are starting to make me sick.
Congrats goes out to the pilots that brought the Raven down and most importantly to the Raven pilot. No matter how immature some of your corp members act, YOU stand in a class alone. I salute you. -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- I am not paying $15 a month to play a immature a-hole. |
Amrotis
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Posted - 2005.03.01 19:46:00 -
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Hats off to Rawthorm. Well played mate :) |
Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.03.01 21:07:00 -
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Rawthorn = cool FA killing it = cool
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2005.03.01 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dinger I personally can give nothing but praise to Rawthorm, first for having the guts to pilot such a ship in a war zone, and second for fighting it out even when it was clear he was going down, respect to you Raw <S>
werd
..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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mijon
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Posted - 2005.03.02 00:51:00 -
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Quite disappointed I missed this battle, I would have liked to be a part of it. Hat goes off to Rawthorn for his bravery and courage. -----------------------------------
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DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2005.03.02 11:22:00 -
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fly your faction ships in battle, theres no thril in pve, current bs with elite mods can handle all npc, so fly in pvp __________________________________________________
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johnjrambo
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Posted - 2005.03.02 12:01:00 -
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Nice story mate. Not so nice it was a shinra |
LWMaverick
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Posted - 2005.03.03 11:39:00 -
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AaArrr... Nice Job m8'tay If you want peace prepare for war ! |
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Bladerunnerxx
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Posted - 2005.03.03 19:24:00 -
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Props to the Raven pilot, and props to FA for putting the story into just that, a damn good story. As for the Shinra guys that keep flaming here, grow up guys.
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Phenia
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Posted - 2005.03.04 02:24:00 -
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I saw Rawthorm in a Caldari Navy Raven yesterday in Vezila... wtf?
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.03.04 02:32:00 -
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hes got more than 1 --------------------------
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.03.04 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 04/03/2005 11:34:23
Originally by: NAFnist Edited by: NAFnist on 28/02/2005 15:34:03
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Tobiaz m0o killing the first Imperial Apoc was frontpage news as well. This isn't anything different.
Imperial apoc cant be gotten with agent missions ^_^
http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=670&tid=5
http://shinra.sgnonline.com/scrape.jpg ^ The picture doesnt work btw ---------------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
Scythmar
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Posted - 2005.03.04 17:29:00 -
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Big deal...
--------------- I guarantee that my opinions are the complete opposite of those of my corp and alliance. Get over it. |
RealJames
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Posted - 2005.03.05 15:42:00 -
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Great post, a great read. It's good to see some people entering into the spirit of the game. Big ups to Raw for having the balls to use his pride and joy, ultimately what one should own such a fine piece of engineering for.
I hope everyone remembers this is a game, and a fantastic one at that, it's not a flaming circus. Keep it up people.
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Erucyll Turon
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Posted - 2005.03.06 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Erucyll Turon on 06/03/2005 16:01:01 OMG RAWTHORM IS UBER!!!
WTS 1 x RAWTHORM CORPSE
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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2005.03.06 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain http://shinra.sgnonline.com/scrape.jpg ^ The picture doesnt work btw
It does now. minor FTP glitch
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Stargate206
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Posted - 2005.03.10 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: Stargate206 on 10/03/2005 12:08:20
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.03.10 11:45:00 -
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You are going to be so ****ed off when you next see Rawthorm.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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