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Ryder 3vyn
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Posted - 2011.08.14 22:41:00 -
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Can Hawk pvp well?Shield boost fit? Passive fit? Dual web? Anyone who flies a Hawk wanna tell me about it, your favourite way to fit it and how effective it is? I'm thinkin rockets/blaster, shield boost nano or something.
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Belthazor4011
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Posted - 2011.08.14 23:05:00 -
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It can be quite a nasty little thing.
Scram, dual web and a MWD
Small armor repper and DCII
Slam into them on the MWD, put on the scram and dual web and unleach the rockets. Solid hit after solid hit, paper DPS is low on this thing. But the effective DPS is very good.
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Soldarius
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.08.15 00:02:00 -
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Rocket Hawk is a viable PvP ship. Don't be afraid to go with something other than kinetic rockets. My active tank fit uses a Nos to keep the cap running while boosting.
Originally by: Krutoj You dont have a supercapital? buy PLEX trade it for ISK, buy supers. Just like any other mmo you can use your RL to pimp your character out (or tank for that matter).
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2011.08.15 03:59:00 -
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To give you an idea, a drake using kinetic missiles against an unmodified shield tank does 75% of the DPS it could be doing with EM missiles.
By comparison, a hawk (with a 10% kinetic bonus) gets 90% of damage that EM missiles would give. So even in a rather exaggerated example, kinetic is nearly as good as the best option available. Unless you're shooting at a Gallente T2 ship, kinetic is usually fine.
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fgft Athonille
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Posted - 2011.08.15 04:12:00 -
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the fitting is called a hookbill and its a pretty good frigate
the only thing you could do with your hawk is sell it to help you buy a hookbill for missiles or a dramiel for guns
Originally by: Skippermonkey keep trying and you can be an hero just like fgft Athonille
Originally by: Singeaboot Raj Tbh i am beginning to see the win - it's the haircut, makes people take notice.
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BearJews
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Posted - 2011.08.15 13:48:00 -
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YOu can actually fit a medium shield booster on a hawk. Don't listen to the guy above me, he mad. Fly, enjoy, learn!
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.08.15 14:04:00 -
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Avoid any use of small shield boosters for PvP...
If you can fit a medium shield booster go ahead, but I'd recommend using a medium extender and hope to kill the oponent before he kills you.
Pinky -
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Maximum Kiely
Caldari Kiely and Son Salvage
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Posted - 2011.08.15 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Pinky Denmark Avoid any use of small shield boosters for PvP...
If you can fit a medium shield booster go ahead, but I'd recommend using a medium extender and hope to kill the oponent before he kills you.
Pinky
You won't be making use of the Hawk's shield boost bonus though... just saying.
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Argosus
Waverunners
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Posted - 2011.08.15 14:13:00 -
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Mine...
[Hawk, AB/rockets] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II
Coreli C-Type 1MN Afterburner Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Medium Shield Extender II
Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I
[Hawk, mwd / rockets] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Ballistic Control System II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Medium Shield Extender II
Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket 75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Core Defence Field Extender I
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2011.08.15 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Belthazor4011 It can be quite a nasty little thing.
Scram, dual web and a MWD
Small armor repper and DCII
Slam into them on the MWD, put on the scram and dual web and unleach the rockets. Solid hit after solid hit, paper DPS is low on this thing. But the effective DPS is very good.
My exact fit, damage and rof rig will help with the dps.
An armor mwd hawk is far more effective than a shield mwd fit, due to the duel webs you can do more solid dps and also have a better dictation of range.
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Conor Todaki
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.08.15 17:48:00 -
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Can kill any other frig when flown well. Such a shame it can't hold drams but they sure as hell run if they're smart.
Rockets, Med meta 4 SB, cap booster, mwd, meta 4 scram and the rest is obvious.
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2011.08.16 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Conor Todaki Can kill any other frig when flown well. Such a shame it can't hold drams but they sure as hell run if they're smart.
Rockets, Med meta 4 SB, cap booster, mwd, meta 4 scram and the rest is obvious.
Dram wouldnt even need to run, srsly...learn how to fit rocket ships.
MWD with no web = no range dictation AT ALL No web = no real dps
That fit literally cant hold anything, I engaged a fit like that once in my harpy....his dps couldnt break my shield recharge and all he done was tank me all day...i eventually just slowboated away.
Never take fitting advice from someone in FA
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Conor Todaki
Pure Evil Warriors The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.16 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Conor Todaki on 16/08/2011 11:10:50
Originally by: Gibbo3771
Originally by: Conor Todaki Can kill any other frig when flown well. Such a shame it can't hold drams but they sure as hell run if they're smart.
Rockets, Med meta 4 SB, cap booster, mwd, meta 4 scram and the rest is obvious.
Dram wouldnt even need to run, srsly...learn how to fit rocket ships.
MWD with no web = no range dictation AT ALL No web = no real dps
That fit literally cant hold anything, I engaged a fit like that once in my harpy....his dps couldnt break my shield recharge and all he done was tank me all day...i eventually just slowboated away.
Never take fitting advice from someone in FA
Rockets hit fine and do much more effective dps than one would think even without a web. You're obviously fighting fail pilots and carebears. Please fly a ship before you judge it and think you know all about it.
One thing you are right about is the range dictation. When i'm in empire space i go with AB and when i'm roaming null I use a mwd purely because having to run from gangs is neccasary. And yes some people are stupid enough not to run. Unfortunately you're neglecting the hawk if you dont maximise it's active tank so i would rather fly a harpy for the web (I fly both)
As for "Never take fitting advice from someone in FA" that's a naive way to think as FA has hundreds if not thousands of people.
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Dorian Tormak
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Posted - 2011.08.16 21:04:00 -
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You're both being butt-hurt kiddies.
Super active tanked Hawk would be a monster to fight other frigs outnumbered in lowsec.
Buffer/web/dual web armor Hawk would be great in 0.0 security space where killing fast is the key to survival.
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Conor Todaki
Pure Evil Warriors The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.16 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dorian Tormak You're both being butt-hurt kiddies.
Super active tanked Hawk would be a monster to fight other frigs outnumbered in lowsec.
Buffer/web/dual web armor Hawk would be great in 0.0 security space where killing fast is the key to survival.
When did i say the armor hawk is bad? Im just saying he doesnt seem open to the idea of not having a web.
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Dorian Tormak
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Posted - 2011.08.16 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Conor Todaki
Originally by: Dorian Tormak You're both being butt-hurt kiddies.
Super active tanked Hawk would be a monster to fight other frigs outnumbered in lowsec.
Buffer/web/dual web armor Hawk would be great in 0.0 security space where killing fast is the key to survival.
When did i say the armor hawk is bad? Im just saying he doesnt seem open to the idea of not having a web.
Yeah I guess.
Gibbo, you're being dumb.
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