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lagianna
The.Carebears
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Posted - 2012.11.10 08:15:00 -
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With the recent changes to barge hit points is it still possible to solo kill a mackinaw in a destroyer, say a catalyst or thrasher?
If so, what fits have you found that work nicely? |
Alice Saki
18310
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Posted - 2012.11.10 08:26:00 -
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Awesome Avatar!
And I haven't ganked in 6 months so no Idea xD http://i.imgur.com/vXey1.png |
Hypercake Mix
Magical Rainbow Bakery
63
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Posted - 2012.11.10 08:36:00 -
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What flavor of Mackinaw? The <= 2 MLU kind that actually uses the mid slots? Or do you mean the 3 MLU kind that should have been made to explode when you gently place kittens on it?
I have been under the assumption that successful solo-dessy-based mackinaw suicide-ganking requires some stars to align for wrecking shots. |
baltec1
Bat Country
2761
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Posted - 2012.11.10 08:38:00 -
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Hulks are still as squishy if they fit no tank. Macks cannot be profitably ganked but will die easily enough to two t2 fitted catalysts if they fit no tank down in 0.5 space. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2012.11.10 08:39:00 -
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I believe it is still possible if they don't use any tank at all, including rigs, but it does require a fully trained T2 fit, not a cheap fit with barely T2 guns from what I know. If they tank it even with just rigs, not possible solo from what I know.
I don't gank, so I could be wrong, but that's the feedback I've heard. Hulks are still just as gankable and I still see a lot of hulks around. |
lagianna
The.Carebears
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Posted - 2012.11.10 12:52:00 -
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Thanks Alice
Since to hear that hulks are still vulnerable, along with untanked mack's. It's definitely more for tears and laughs they profit so even having to use two t2 fits is acceptable lol |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
901
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Posted - 2012.11.10 13:03:00 -
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lagianna wrote: Barge ganking, Still possible?
Yes.
You need more than a simple catalyst or thrasher but that is not a problem, you can still gank those with a rookie ship in null or low sec without concord bothering you. brb |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
164
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Posted - 2012.11.10 13:26:00 -
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Love being able to fit a Damage Control II on my macks, plus keep the 2 mlu's. :D And add a couple of t2 invulnerability fields, you get a nice tank. ;) Plus you add in the shield and armor boosts I have on my boosting Orca... very nice tanks. ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
Not Xolve
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.10 13:30:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:I believe it is still possible if they don't use any tank at all, including rigs, but it does require a fully trained T2 fit, not a cheap fit with barely T2 guns from what I know. If they tank it even with just rigs, not possible solo from what I know.
All catalyst fits are cheap. |
lagianna
The.Carebears
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Posted - 2012.11.10 13:43:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Love being able to fit a Damage Control II on my macks, plus keep the 2 mlu's. :D And add a couple of t2 invulnerability fields, you get a nice tank. ;) Plus you add in the shield and armor boosts I have on my boosting Orca... very nice tanks.
I love your name, but not your carebear attitude |
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Romvex
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Posted - 2012.11.10 14:07:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Love being able to fit a Damage Control II on my macks, plus keep the 2 mlu's. :D And add a couple of t2 invulnerability fields, you get a nice tank. ;) Plus you add in the shield and armor boosts I have on my boosting Orca... very nice tanks. you must be a really weird person IRL Post with your main |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
164
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Posted - 2012.11.11 11:31:00 -
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Romvex wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:Love being able to fit a Damage Control II on my macks, plus keep the 2 mlu's. :D And add a couple of t2 invulnerability fields, you get a nice tank. ;) Plus you add in the shield and armor boosts I have on my boosting Orca... very nice tanks. you must be a really weird person IRL
But Romvex... haven't you heard? Eve Is Real! ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp. R O G U E
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Posted - 2012.11.11 11:32:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Love being able to fit a Damage Control II on my macks, plus keep the 2 mlu's. :D And add a couple of t2 invulnerability fields, you get a nice tank. ;) Plus you add in the shield and armor boosts I have on my boosting Orca... very nice tanks.
you'd probably get more ehp and the same yield from a DCIIless skiff. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
108
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Posted - 2012.11.11 11:35:00 -
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Not to endorse one party or the other, but you do realize that your pushing for CCP to end up nerfing Catalysts, right? Right or wrong, you know that's what's going to end up happening. So if you're going to gank... at least try to be more creative about it and don't just use the same ship every dang time. That's just asking for trouble and you'll just end up honking off every non-gank Catalyst pilot out there. EvE Forum Bingo |
Galaxy Pig
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
88
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Posted - 2012.11.11 11:51:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Not to endorse one party or the other, but you do realize that your pushing for CCP to end up nerfing Catalysts, right? Right or wrong, you know that's what's going to end up happening. So if you're going to gank... at least try to be more creative about it and don't just use the same ship every dang time. That's just asking for trouble and you'll just end up honking off every non-gank Catalyst pilot out there.
Seems silly we should fear using the best ship for the job lest it be nerfed. Like saying "Oh you use a drake to solo c2's? Man you're just asking for trouble, you'd better be more creative than that..." |
Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
57
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:27:00 -
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pretty much every barge type ship can be tanked up nicely now, but can is the key word, if you want to see miners explode i guess just scan thier fits. Do rigs show up on a scan? I know i fly tank rigs on my miner ships now and my alts covetor has a shield extender and dcu too so for a cheap t1 barge its reasonably tanky, not sure if a solo catalyst could take it down in the systems i currently mine from. But i know if someone wanted me to explode in highsec, i more or less will, sooner or later lol
Hulk actually gained a slight improvement in hp when they changed stuff, i always had mine tank fitted and it still increased by roughly 2k when they patched them up |
Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
181
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:20:00 -
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Still possible with 2 t1 fit destroyers.
http://chinx.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=16643 Hey, as a dude that lives in lowsec, you should read my idea on how to "fix" it... in Blog format, complete with a spreadsheet! http://3xxxd.blogspot.com/2012/09/how-to-buff-lowsec.html |
Silver Plated
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:20:00 -
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It is possible to gank any ship as long as you bring enough ships to gank it with. |
Beekeeper Bob
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
288
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:32:00 -
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How do people that supposedly play this game have no idea what's going on?
"Paranoia is the number one killer of idiots and Republicans." |
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
825
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:43:00 -
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you can easily gank miners still, despite what whiners claim, it just isn't profitable anymore ( as it should be) unless they fit weird fits. |
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Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:46:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:Not to endorse one party or the other, but you do realize that your pushing for CCP to end up nerfing Catalysts, right? Right or wrong, you know that's what's going to end up happening. So if you're going to gank... at least try to be more creative about it and don't just use the same ship every dang time. That's just asking for trouble and you'll just end up honking off every non-gank Catalyst pilot out there. Seems silly we should fear using the best ship for the job lest it be nerfed. Like saying "Oh you use a drake to solo c2's? Man you're just asking for trouble, you'd better be more creative than that..."
You'd be better off using something that stands up to pvp. If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if i'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
baltec1
Bat Country
2777
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:47:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:you can easily gank miners still, despite what whiners claim, it just isn't profitable anymore ( as it should be) unless they fit weird fits.
You do know that just about any subcap can be ganked for profit right now if they fit no tank right? |
Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:48:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:How do people that supposedly play this game have no idea what's going on?
How do people that supposedly live in this world have no idea what's going on?
Yes, I mean you, Bob.
What's going on? Let me break it down for you.
EVE is a sandbox. What does this mean? It means that you have people, and sand, in close proximity.
Boom. People's heads, buried in sand, hiding from the 'evildoers'. That's why people like mining, it gives them that comforting feeling of burrowing into the ground, neck deep, upside down. So warm, and cozy, and suffocating, and blinding. |
Beekeeper Bob
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
288
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Posted - 2012.11.11 19:11:00 -
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Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:How do people that supposedly play this game have no idea what's going on? How do people that supposedly live in this world have no idea what's going on? Yes, I mean you, Bob. What's going on? Let me break it down for you. EVE is a sandbox. What does this mean? It means that you have people, and sand, in close proximity. Boom. People's heads, buried in sand, hiding from the 'evildoers'. That's why people like mining, it gives them that comforting feeling of burrowing into the ground, neck deep, upside down. So warm, and cozy, and suffocating, and blinding.
I'm sure you meant something by this, but I would dial down your meds...it really doesn't make much sense....
"Paranoia is the number one killer of idiots and Republicans." |
Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.11.11 19:21:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:How do people that supposedly play this game have no idea what's going on? How do people that supposedly live in this world have no idea what's going on? Yes, I mean you, Bob. What's going on? Let me break it down for you. EVE is a sandbox. What does this mean? It means that you have people, and sand, in close proximity. Boom. People's heads, buried in sand, hiding from the 'evildoers'. That's why people like mining, it gives them that comforting feeling of burrowing into the ground, neck deep, upside down. So warm, and cozy, and suffocating, and blinding. I'm sure you meant something by this, but I would dial down your meds...it really doesn't make much sense....
Over your head? Try taking it out of the sand :) |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
394
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:44:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Not to endorse one party or the other, but you do realize that your pushing for CCP to end up nerfing Catalysts, right? Right or wrong, you know that's what's going to end up happening. So if you're going to gank... at least try to be more creative about it and don't just use the same ship every dang time. That's just asking for trouble and you'll just end up honking off every non-gank Catalyst pilot out there.
How could you possibly nerf a catalyst? zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2012.11.11 23:28:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:Not to endorse one party or the other, but you do realize that your pushing for CCP to end up nerfing Catalysts, right? Right or wrong, you know that's what's going to end up happening. So if you're going to gank... at least try to be more creative about it and don't just use the same ship every dang time. That's just asking for trouble and you'll just end up honking off every non-gank Catalyst pilot out there. How could you possibly nerf a catalyst?
Kill the refire bonus, give it a tracking bonus? It is no longer effective at breaking barge tanks.
I'm sure CCP can do better if they decide they need to. |
Mcpate
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
7
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Posted - 2012.11.11 23:32:00 -
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If only more miners were like this guy...
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17925168#new
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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2012.11.11 23:38:00 -
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Lots of miners like that. They never make it to kill mails because they are ignored. |
Mcpate
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
7
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Posted - 2012.11.12 10:31:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Lots of miners like that. They never make it to kill mails because they are ignored.
Kinda hard to ignore the procurer that ganks your domi
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