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Michael Loney
Skullspace Industries
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Posted - 2012.12.11 21:59:00 -
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I will toss this out there again...
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=164340&find=unread
Different Idea but will have a similar impact on haulers. |
Commander Ted
Dookie on the flowah
123
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Posted - 2012.12.11 22:04:00 -
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Sounds more clunky than my idea, but perhaps both could be implemented at the same time? I like prices being more influenced by players actions (like piracy) than artificial taxes. Not to mention not that many people have trash standings with 1 empire in particular so its affect would probably be minimal and only inconvenience a portion of the eve population. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
VegasMirage
260
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:38:00 -
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Commander Ted wrote:Sounds more clunky than my idea, but perhaps both could be implemented at the same time? I like prices being more influenced by players actions (like piracy) than artificial taxes. Not to mention not that many people have trash standings with 1 empire in particular so its affect would probably be minimal and only inconvenience a portion of the eve population.
In addition, I think all wormholes MUST open to low sec or null sec. likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |
fukier
244
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Posted - 2012.12.12 04:40:00 -
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personally i think all sov should be more dynamic and should change on various factors/variables.... i think in peace time it would make sence there would be high sec routes connecting the empires but now they are at war... so this should no longer be thecase... At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
324
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Posted - 2012.12.12 08:54:00 -
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This would definitely boost hauling ISK/hour while being active. AFK Hauling is still possible within a region.
Perhaps only separate by lowsec based on the ongoing war and allies. Hauling from Caldari/Amarr to Gallente/Minmatar gives you no choice but to smuggle through lowsec (active hauling + T2 Industrials + escorting/scouting freighters vs gate camping)
The "Amarr <---> Caldari" and "Gallente <---> Minmatar" regions could still be connected by an infamous 0.5 system chokepoint (AFK hauling vs suicide ganking). |
Commander Ted
Dookie on the flowah
136
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Posted - 2012.12.13 05:45:00 -
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fukier wrote:personally i think all sov should be more dynamic and should change on various factors/variables.... i think in peace time it would make sence there would be high sec routes connecting the empires but now they are at war... so this should no longer be thecase...
Changing the sec status of already existing systems is a very dangerous thing to do. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
2536
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Posted - 2012.12.13 08:47:00 -
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I'm down for this. It would certainly make things much more interesting. Especially since currently, the fact that certain items are only available in certain empires means absolutely nothing in highsec. If you could only get certain skills/BPOs/ores from one area without bumming through lowsec instead of all of them, it would make things much more interesting, and I think bring things much closer to EVE's core vision.
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
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Commander Ted
Dookie on the flowah
142
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Posted - 2012.12.13 17:15:00 -
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Thor Kerrigan wrote:This would definitely boost hauling ISK/hour while being active. AFK Hauling is still possible within a region.
Perhaps only separate by lowsec based on the ongoing war and allies. Hauling from Caldari/Amarr to Gallente/Minmatar gives you no choice but to smuggle through lowsec (active hauling + T2 Industrials + escorting/scouting freighters vs gate camping)
The "Amarr <---> Caldari" and "Gallente <---> Minmatar" regions could still be connected by an infamous 0.5 system chokepoint (AFK hauling vs suicide ganking).
Maybe at first allies could be connected but it would be far more interesting to see all of them separated. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Seranova Farreach
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
35
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Posted - 2012.12.13 19:56:00 -
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the eve map just needs to be BIGGER for the amount of players we have. |
Commander Ted
Dookie on the flowah
142
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Posted - 2012.12.13 19:59:00 -
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Seranova Farreach wrote:the eve map just needs to be BIGGER for the amount of players we have. That wouldn't really change anything, and making it bigger wouldn't be at all like what im proposing. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
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Isu Okaski
The Break Room
10
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Posted - 2012.12.13 20:00:00 -
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Commander Ted wrote: Right now If they condensed hisec into 2-3 systems that had all the asteroid belts, industry slots, and agents I think the only thing that would change are travel times.
And lag, don't forget lag!
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Commander Ted
Dookie on the flowah
142
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Posted - 2012.12.13 20:02:00 -
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Isu Okaski wrote:Commander Ted wrote: Right now If they condensed hisec into 2-3 systems that had all the asteroid belts, industry slots, and agents I think the only thing that would change are travel times.
And lag, don't forget lag! from a gameplay perspective I mean. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Commander Ted
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.23 08:06:00 -
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Perhaps if these regions were added the space between the currently existing areas would be expanded? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Commander Ted
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
383
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Posted - 2013.01.01 01:08:00 -
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Be such an easy thing to implement, do this please? It would be awesome! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
VegasMirage
348
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Posted - 2013.01.01 14:48:00 -
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Commander Ted wrote:Be such an easy thing to implement, do this please? It would be awesome!
will never happen, go use your time more constructively like learning how ASB's work and when not to engage a bc fleet at zero in a Talos likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |
Ferdinand Camine
Iynx Teledyne Armory The Chogo Ri Commonwealth
2
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Posted - 2013.01.01 16:47:00 -
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I just want to state my full support for this idea. |
Tediously Useless
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:00:00 -
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I like this idea. |
VegasMirage
356
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Posted - 2013.01.12 04:07:00 -
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Tediously Useless wrote:I like this idea.
You inceptionfag using alt to support main's ideas, very very bad form Ted. likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |
Malcorian Vandsteidt
Black Dawn Rising
20
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Posted - 2013.01.13 01:02:00 -
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I approve of this 100%, although the POS cyno thing may be a bit much unless you mean allow more then one pos in the system. |
Xavier Schlosser
0
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Posted - 2013.01.13 03:50:00 -
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Fully support this idea. |
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
576
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Posted - 2013.01.13 05:05:00 -
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For those not old enough to remember: Empires were in fact separated by lowsec at one point, it broke Eve, and had to be removed.
Tried and failed. /thread Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Commander Ted
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
404
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Posted - 2013.01.13 07:58:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:For those not old enough to remember: Empires were in fact separated by lowsec at one point, it broke Eve, and had to be removed. Tried and failed. /thread When was this? I don't think it ever was like that. In fact if I remember all four empires connected to Yulai and we had a CCP chosen super hub. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Commander Ted
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
429
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Posted - 2013.01.18 00:43:00 -
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So now that we know that this hasn't been tried does anyone else have any objections? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Dzajic
99
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Posted - 2013.01.18 01:17:00 -
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Dear op you are so wrong.
Do you (or any of those wholeheartedly supporting this) know that it was like that back in the ancient beginnings of EVE? And even in times of 30k total subs and 5k online it made travel from one empire to empire impossible.
Now add to the picture HICtors, sensorboosted T3s and Ti3s and the fact that there is now 50k online.
Might as well shard individual regions to new servers. People would hire transports and everyone would just move to Caldari space.
Much more mportantly, idea of piracy not making enough money is laughable. You are either doing it wrong or have a completely skewed picture about how much isk is "decent income". All relevant pirate corps have their own Titans and couple moms each, with extensive cap fleets, their fleet doctrines are Vindies and Machs and they fly and lose two billion pimped and linked 100mn ab Legions and Tengus solo for lulz. "Successful pirates" are already in situation where if you check their kb data you can see some that even if the derp 5 bil per month for random solo or small gang lulz, their daily camping allows them to have 95% isk efficiency.
If you just want easy isk , get a dozen Taloses or Tornados, go to Niarja or Uedema and stand in line. Never ending stream of flying pinatas. |
Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2013.01.18 01:53:00 -
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I dont agree with this idea
The issue with Eve isent highsec, leave high sec alone it works as it is... If you lowsec / null people dont have targets are lonely, furstrated etc, well maybe you sohuld ask yourself why, and not try invent ways to get what you want on the expense of those that like high sec as it is... |
Commander Ted
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
429
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Posted - 2013.01.18 01:54:00 -
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Dzajic wrote:Dear op you are so wrong.
Do you (or any of those wholeheartedly supporting this) know that it was like that back in the ancient beginnings of EVE? And even in times of 30k total subs and 5k online it made travel from one empire to empire impossible.
Now add to the picture HICtors, sensorboosted T3s and Ti3s and the fact that there is now 50k online.
Might as well shard individual regions to new servers. People would hire transports and everyone would just move to Caldari space.
Much more mportantly, idea of piracy not making enough money is laughable. You are either doing it wrong or have a completely skewed picture about how much isk is "decent income". All relevant pirate corps have their own Titans and couple moms each, with extensive cap fleets, their fleet doctrines are Vindies and Machs and they fly and lose two billion pimped and linked 100mn ab Legions and Tengus solo for lulz. "Successful pirates" are already in situation where if you check their kb data you can see some that even if the derp 5 bil per month for random solo or small gang lulz, their daily camping allows them to have 95% isk efficiency.
If you just want easy isk , get a dozen Taloses or Tornados, go to Niarja or Uedema and stand in line. Never ending stream of flying pinatas. I looked up the **** your saying about the beginnings of eve and this was never true unless you can link it, I asked people and read the patch notes from 2003 and in fact travel between the empire was even more trivial because they all went to yulai with super highway gates.
Secondly your idea of everyone moving to caldari space is utterly stupid because then who is going to get other factions faction items and mine ice for other peoples poses? Who is going to sell modules to all those people then? Then who is going to sell modules to the people who war dec the carebears? Who is going to be patient enough
How many of those pirates do you think actually made their isk doing piracy? Yea they paid for everything with a constant stream of 5bil mission derps running around and scooping up t2 loot and don't do other things to make isk. I also specifically mention why suicide ganks are lame on one of the earlier posts.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Commander Ted
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
429
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Posted - 2013.01.18 01:55:00 -
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Fey Ivory wrote:I dont agree with this idea
The issue with Eve isent highsec, leave high sec alone it works as it is... If you lowsec / null people dont have targets are lonely, furstrated etc, well maybe you sohuld ask yourself why, and not try invent ways to get what you want on the expense of those that like high sec as it is... How is this a nerf to high sec. You will still be able to do all the missions you want safely, do all the mining you want, basically everything you already can do. Trading would be the only thing affected. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2013.01.18 02:09:00 -
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Well you have the epic arch newb mission, that be affected, since if i rmember right spans across Gallante, Minmatar, Amaar...
And depending on how the borders are drawn, it affect pyro/kernite and omber/plagioclase
Also is for me i actually try check prices on where i sell my MInerals, it will reduce where i can make the most profit. it will cut the universe 1/4 for me
The idea initself isent bad, i kind of like it, but i wont support something, where pvpers in Low and null, bascially shot themself in the foot, and this is just anouther exuse for pvpers to gate camp and destroy targets that most of the time cant ewen fight back...
I really like to see ideas how low and null be more apealing to high sec people, this isent the way... sorry i dont have any good options how to fix low, i wish i could, but high sec works so leave it alone |
Commander Ted
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
429
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Posted - 2013.01.18 02:14:00 -
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Fey Ivory wrote:Well you have the epic arch newb mission, that be affected, since if i rmember right spans across Gallante, Minmatar, Amaar...
And depending on how the borders are drawn, it affect pyro/kernite and omber/plagioclase
Also is for me i actually try check prices on where i sell my MInerals, it will reduce where i can make the most profit. it will cut the universe 1/4 for me
The idea initself isent bad, i kind of like it, but i wont support something, where pvpers in Low and null, bascially shot themself in the foot, and this is just anouther exuse for pvpers to gate camp and destroy targets that most of the time cant ewen fight back...
I really like to see ideas how low and null be more apealing to high sec people, this isent the way... sorry i dont have any good options how to fix low, i wish i could, but high sec works so leave it alone Well low sec is easily crossable in a frigate, and it would be good if ores had different distributions since it would change prices and add extra isk incentive to trade in order to offeset the risk and create new isk making opportunities for carebears to exploit to be even richer. Not to mention ores can be jump freightered across space and poorer mining corporations can move their minerals via cloaky hauler, wormhole with a freighter, or even transplant their entire mining operation temporarily via wormhole. Also high sec is broken because its the best place to make isk in the game, however I wouldn't be nerfing high sec here and that is not the objective or this idea. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Commander Ted
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
430
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Posted - 2013.01.18 18:38:00 -
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The amount of already existing low sec entrances is very large so the chances of all of them being camped are terribly low. Not to mention safe trade would still exist for carebears (to a lesser degree yea) between minor hubs, and missioner hotspots. Of course low sec seriously isn't that dangerous, especially without bubbles and fast tackle frigs getting instantly blapped by gate guns. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
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