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Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
817
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Posted - 2013.03.21 10:29:00 -
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marVLs wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:Make the texture to scale too ! The sense of scale of ships is WAAAY OFF! The geometrical and model details of ships doesn't scale at all!!! When you put an Algos and a Thanatos side by side , you honestly can't tell which one is bigger . True true, space thingy should be epic, in EVE bad scalling destroy everything
A dreadnought should be HUGE!!! But instead , when you park a Battleship next to it , it isn't threatening any more.
The titans are nice , but the resolution are so low when you fly close , its like looking at Mario graphics . WE KNOW CCP has a high resolution texture pack reserved for their own EPIC trailers , why can't we have the option to use that texture pack?? Why are we forced into mediocre graphics when we already CAN achieve what we need? Why is CCP tying his own hands behind his back? Brass shines as fair to the ignorant as gold to the goldsmiths. -Elizabeth I
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Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
817
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Posted - 2013.03.21 10:33:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:If you're actually comparing the current graphics to the ones from a game released in 2003 (the same year people started playing EVe by the way), then you probably need to pony up & buy new computer hardware. You can't really judge when you have everything set to 'low'. its on high thx. Try zooming onto your ship . You'll see the problem. That is your problem.. eve is properly played fully zoomed out when you see only tiny yellow red and blue boxes! I do not want to waste even move of my computer when this is an excel game in fact.
so basically you are saying , because ' I don't want to invest on my computer and I am still running on medieval cards , everyone should suffer for the sake of "fairness" .' ?
The legacy and long evolution of this game starting from the 2003 made this game by nature heavily point and click based , as you've said , an "excel game" , but does that justify chopping our own legs off because "thats the way it has been" . Thats defeatist and an insult to the entire human civilization ! Brass shines as fair to the ignorant as gold to the goldsmiths. -Elizabeth I
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Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
282
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Posted - 2013.03.21 10:48:00 -
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Wow you really put a lot of effort into this thread. I have no problems with the current graphics myself.
having just returned after a 3 year absence I am still surprised at how much better things are looking now. But I do applaud your initiative. We miss you Saede. |
Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
817
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Posted - 2013.03.21 10:56:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Wow you really put a lot of effort into this thread. I have no problems with the current graphics myself.
having just returned after a 3 year absence I am still surprised at how much better things are looking now. But I do applaud your initiative.
The power of procrastinating .
The current graphics sure isn't going to wow anyone (no pun intended) , but surely I can't say its bad either. What I'm saying is , the graphics can be SO MUCH MORE with some minor tweaking.
And as some of those who replied mentioned it , the UI could use some tweaking .... well... overhauling as well, but thats for another time
On a side note . Ohh no... I wasn't the one who've put effort , this thread is built upon the MANY who have commented , suggested and proposed ideas , fix and leads that might one day help to shape EvE as we know it . As Obama said "You didn't build that" (Never mind the egoist down thumbing the video. The Chinese have a saying ,"When you drink the water, think of the source" . Thats the motto I live by I lived a life of lies and deception. Perhaps things will be different here.-á |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
229
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:11:00 -
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The OP's linked vids looked bad, Eve still has the best graphics around. |
Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
820
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:25:00 -
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EvEa Deva wrote:The OP's linked vids looked bad, Eve still has the best graphics around.
those games are from 2003-2007. OF COURSE they'll look bad for today's standard .
I tried linking TODAY'S GAME BEHOLD!
STAR CITIZEN!
but then that game hurt the hardcore player's fragile little heart and I got flamed , thats why I removed it and had to keep on updating the opening post so people COULD GET BACK TO TRACK! I lived a life of lies and deception. Perhaps things will be different here.-á |
Stan'din
Incursion Squad Punkz 'n Monkeys
41
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:29:00 -
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F'ing scrubs need to get off windows XP
DX11 is upon you scrubs, Odin himself commands you to buy a decent rig. Your about as much use as a condom dispenser in the Vatican. |
Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
557
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:33:00 -
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CCP BunnyVirus wrote:Tykari wrote:The problem with the graphics in an MMO is that often there are other considerations linked to it. Most notably performance when massive numbers are present. Top notch graphics are all well and good but in fleet battles and in trade hub systems where there are 100's of players for most people it would cause a lot of problems. So unless you happen to own a really high end system or spend most of your time alone in a system this really wouldn't do much good in the long run.
That said, CCP is updating the graphics and they're doing it one step at a time. The V3 project is mostly adjusting the way textures work on ships so that better effects can later be applied. And before those effects can happen every single object in the game needs to have those updates, which takes a lot of time considering the huge amount of assets this game has. The new lighting system they want to use is an example of this. As long as not everything has the V3 treatment they're not using it. Once that is done they can focus on dealing with ships whose poly counts are too low and so on. Same with corp logos and decalls. The V3 textures will open up the options of changing colors and so forth and they've already said that is something they do intend to do.
Give them time, they can only do so much at once. Truth!!!!
Wouldn't all the ;lag be client side? The cry game developers didn't expect 100% of the player base to run the game at full but they still released ahead of the curb. People can always lower their own graphics settings CCP don't make us wait another decade for a drone overhaul; DRONE OVERHAUL NOW! |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
1748
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:50:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:This year has been a year of progress for EVE. no **** shrelock!
Ivy Romanova wrote:We need WAY more community ship model events and much faster pace in updates. MOAR BUGS! AND LAGS! \/ |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
285
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Posted - 2013.03.21 12:25:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:the UI could use some tweaking .... well... overhauling as well
Understatement of the century.
People Aren't playing Eve on triple projector screens covering the whole wall just because they like to see the ships be big. They do it to fit the UI.
We miss you Saede. |
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Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
820
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Posted - 2013.03.21 12:42:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:the UI could use some tweaking .... well... overhauling as well Understatement of the century. People Aren't playing Eve on triple projector screens covering the whole wall just because they like to see the ships be big. They do it to fit the UI.
to fit the overview alone i needed to buy an extra 24' LED monitor :O Keep the name , ship types , corporation , transversal , speed , fleet window, inventory to check my ammo stash , scanner tab , drone tab , local , corp chat , fleet chat , destination ,lock window . The list goes on and on and on. Now I haven't worked much on the UI , so I currently don't have a concept art as to what the UI should look like , but what i DO KNOW is making the locking icon from square to spinny square or circle IS NOT on my list of "priority" I lived a life of lies and deception. Perhaps things will be different here.-á |
Sync Hronization
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
0
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Posted - 2013.03.21 14:19:00 -
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Yeah the UI is a bit crazy and now that I got into the game more it's more of a Spreadsheet with a min ship in the middle of the screen. Not very nice hehe. |
Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
824
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Posted - 2013.03.21 14:23:00 -
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Sync Hronization wrote:Yeah the UI is a bit crazy and now that I got into the game more it's more of a Spreadsheet with a min ship in the middle of the screen. Not very nice hehe.
True true , but IF we change that , there will be A LOT OF upset old **** cheese shooting at the monument again because they'll see it as ... well .... this
Any LEAP forward will be seen as bad for those who have accustomed to eating spam for 10 years straight with no eggs FFREEDOM!!!!! |
Hra Neuvosto
FinFleet Raiden.
17
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Posted - 2013.03.21 16:00:00 -
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How would you go about conveying the information we need in a fight other than as a spreadsheet? |
Ager Agemo
Imperial Collective
247
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Posted - 2013.03.21 16:16:00 -
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EVE needs to fix the scaling for the graphics to really shine, currently the scaling is so completely and ****** up, that when you zoom out, eve its a game of space pixels on a literal sense, while games like homeworld make eve look outdated.
put it this way, zoomed out, my homeworld 1 mod of eve online looks better than eve online itself... which dare to say... means something is really ****** up eve wise... |
Alexa Coates
Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC
311
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Posted - 2013.03.21 16:24:00 -
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Ager Agemo wrote:EVE needs to fix the scaling for the graphics to really shine, currently the scaling is so completely and ****** up, that when you zoom out, eve its a game of space pixels on a literal sense, while games like homeworld make eve look outdated.
put it this way, zoomed out, my homeworld 1 mod of eve online looks better than eve online itself... which dare to say... means something is really ****** up eve wise... I think it's all about perspective. Nothing in eve really gives you a sense of size. Nothing makes you feel massive, and ships handle like sports cars no matter what. That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2983
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Posted - 2013.03.21 16:24:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:the UI could use some tweaking .... well... overhauling as well Understatement of the century. People Aren't playing Eve on triple projector screens covering the whole wall just because they like to see the ships be big. They do it to fit the UI. Fun fact: The more space, the less space.
This is actually true. People fill up their screens with windows, realize they need more space on screen, update, fill more screen with more windows and realize that they dont actually have more space left. |
Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
828
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Posted - 2013.03.21 16:26:00 -
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Alexa Coates wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:EVE needs to fix the scaling for the graphics to really shine, currently the scaling is so completely and ****** up, that when you zoom out, eve its a game of space pixels on a literal sense, while games like homeworld make eve look outdated.
put it this way, zoomed out, my homeworld 1 mod of eve online looks better than eve online itself... which dare to say... means something is really ****** up eve wise... I think it's all about perspective. Nothing in eve really gives you a sense of size. Nothing makes you feel massive, and ships handle like sports cars no matter what.
I take it you don't fly Battleships . Try flying ONLY THOSE for a week , and then come back to cruisers. Its like going from 56k to OPTICAL FIBER
THERE IS a reference , that is called other ships , but humans have a rather poor sense of perspective , the best way to convey a sense of scale would be with scaling of graphical details FFREEDOM!!!!! |
Ager Agemo
Imperial Collective
247
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Posted - 2013.03.21 16:33:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Alexa Coates wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:EVE needs to fix the scaling for the graphics to really shine, currently the scaling is so completely and ****** up, that when you zoom out, eve its a game of space pixels on a literal sense, while games like homeworld make eve look outdated.
put it this way, zoomed out, my homeworld 1 mod of eve online looks better than eve online itself... which dare to say... means something is really ****** up eve wise... I think it's all about perspective. Nothing in eve really gives you a sense of size. Nothing makes you feel massive, and ships handle like sports cars no matter what. I take it you don't fly Battleships . Try flying ONLY THOSE for a week , and then come back to cruisers. Its like going from 56k to OPTICAL FIBER THERE IS a reference , that is called other ships , but humans have a rather poor sense of perspective , the best way to convey a sense of scale would be with scaling of graphical details
you are right... I don't fly battleships... I fly marauders.
As an additional note Eve Aesthetics are the next highest offender, look at this, it has 1/90 of the graphics of eve online Tech wise, but aesthetically it makes eve look like pong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXF2uHPiZoo |
Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
828
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Posted - 2013.03.21 16:37:00 -
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Ager Agemo wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:Alexa Coates wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:EVE needs to fix the scaling for the graphics to really shine, currently the scaling is so completely and ****** up, that when you zoom out, eve its a game of space pixels on a literal sense, while games like homeworld make eve look outdated.
put it this way, zoomed out, my homeworld 1 mod of eve online looks better than eve online itself... which dare to say... means something is really ****** up eve wise... I think it's all about perspective. Nothing in eve really gives you a sense of size. Nothing makes you feel massive, and ships handle like sports cars no matter what. I take it you don't fly Battleships . Try flying ONLY THOSE for a week , and then come back to cruisers. Its like going from 56k to OPTICAL FIBER THERE IS a reference , that is called other ships , but humans have a rather poor sense of perspective , the best way to convey a sense of scale would be with scaling of graphical details you are right... I don't fly battleships... I fly marauders. As an additional note Eve Aesthetics are the next highest offender, look at this, it has 1/90 of the graphics of eve online Tech wise, but aesthetically it makes eve look like pong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXF2uHPiZoo
LOL aesthetics??? You are rustling my jimmies there lol EVERYONE know how highly "stylized" the ships are . They are "avant-garde" and very "modern" . It will take a "degree" , if not a "multitude of degrees" to truly "appreciate" the "styling" of EvE .
But I have to admit the Corax is VERY nicely designed ... IF ITS NOT THE WRONG WAY AROUND!!!! FFREEDOM!!!!! |
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Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1308
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Posted - 2013.03.21 16:40:00 -
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OP, stop posting.
CCP are upgrading the graphics as fast as is practical for the game. People have already explained to you why it can't go any faster even if you want it to. A CCP employee has even come into the thread to confirm that these explanations are true. Saying you want it more often isn't going to get you what you want. That's the sign of someone who was spoiled as a child. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
828
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Posted - 2013.03.21 16:45:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:OP, stop posting.
CCP are upgrading the graphics as fast as is practical for the game. People have already explained to you why it can't go any faster even if you want it to. A CCP employee has even come into the thread to confirm that these explanations are true. Saying you want it more often isn't going to get you what you want. That's the sign of someone who was spoiled as a child.
You are obviously missing the point. As we go on one idea by one idea , we are digging up MORE and MORE possible reference materials and points that needed to be worked on .
Its EvE awareness week FFREEDOM!!!!! |
Ager Agemo
Imperial Collective
247
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Posted - 2013.03.21 17:04:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Arduemont wrote:OP, stop posting.
CCP are upgrading the graphics as fast as is practical for the game. People have already explained to you why it can't go any faster even if you want it to. A CCP employee has even come into the thread to confirm that these explanations are true. Saying you want it more often isn't going to get you what you want. That's the sign of someone who was spoiled as a child. You are obviously missing the point. As we go on one idea by one idea , we are digging up MORE and MORE possible reference materials and points that needed to be worked on . Its EvE awareness week
Indeed, its true CCP is working as fast as they can, but they might not be focusing on what really needs attention, threads like this allow them what they should focus in, even tho most likely they will ignore us, and we will end shooting at an indestructible statue.
Personally I would prefer if EVE fixed the scaling and a proper Nlips, this would make ships look much more cool and allow the came to be used on a more beautiful way even during battles. |
Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
862
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Posted - 2013.04.03 12:06:00 -
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WELL THEN! The Odyssey expansion is coming this summer. STILL no mention of anything graphical , just messing with the skill trees and messing with sov .
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
516
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Posted - 2013.04.03 12:09:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:WELL THEN! The Odyssey expansion is coming this summer. STILL no mention of anything graphical , just messing with the skill trees and messing with sov .
V3 capitals... - Nulla Curas |
Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
862
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Posted - 2013.04.03 12:11:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:WELL THEN! The Odyssey expansion is coming this summer. STILL no mention of anything graphical , just messing with the skill trees and messing with sov .
V3 capitals...
Thats like telling your neighbors . I TRICKED OUT MY CAR!
LOOK!!! The furry dices are now PINK instead of BROWN! (¦à_¦à_¦à_¦à(¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦à¦à¦à¦à¦à¦à(¦à_¦à_¦¦¦à-+¦¦¦à-¡-¡-¡-¡-¡a¦¦¦à-Ŧ¦¦ài¦¦¦àj¦¦¦àu¦¦¦àa¦¦¦àn¦¦¦àa¦¦-¡¦à-¡-¡¦à-¡_-¡¦à-¡_¦à_¦à_¦à_¦à_¦à_¦à_¦à_¦à-¡-¡¦à(-¡)~~-¡~n++ |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
516
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Posted - 2013.04.03 12:18:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:WELL THEN! The Odyssey expansion is coming this summer. STILL no mention of anything graphical , just messing with the skill trees and messing with sov .
V3 capitals... Thats like telling your neighbors . I TRICKED OUT MY CAR! LOOK!!! The furry dices are now PINK instead of BROWN!
Still graphical... just because you dont like caps
and we havent seen any showing of the minmatar caps... - Nulla Curas |
Nova Satar
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
99
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Posted - 2013.04.03 12:32:00 -
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If you want a longevity and engagement in a game you need content before aesthetics, so their priorities are just fine. Plus it seems silly even having to point it out but the graphics in EVE are great and just fine for the style of game.
Looking at your HW2 links... i dont care if it has a higher poly model count (/??) or a better thingy deterioration level, when you actually just use your eyes and look.... EVE looks a hundred times better. |
Nadia Fey
State Protectorate Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.04.03 12:59:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:If you want a longevity and engagement in a game you need content before aesthetics, so their priorities are just fine. Plus it seems silly even having to point it out but the graphics in EVE are great and just fine for the style of game.
Looking at your HW2 links... i dont care if it has a higher poly model count (/??) or a better thingy deterioration level, when you actually just use your eyes and look.... EVE looks a hundred times better.
we are kinda talking about the actual animation, aesthetics and destruction effects tbh :P Not the poly counts Drones in eve materalise out of thin air while those in HW2 actually comes out of a bay.
In Nexus , shield's bubble wrap actually flickers when hit , there is a clear distinction between munitions glancing off the shield or tanked by armor .
Ships in those games are actually designed to be scientifically sound and have a sense of scale . The level of details and texture resolution scale upwards with ship size .
Combat wise , if HW is a MMORPG , they look and feel much more polished than the current iteration of EvE
And don't even get me started on Star Citizen FREEDOM!!!! |
Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
186
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Posted - 2013.04.03 14:14:00 -
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Damn i have no idea how i could have missed Nexus!!! Going to DL it ASAP. Legaly
Haegemonia had so close to be perfect:). Awesome graphics beating even HW2, great music/soundeffects, awesome gameplay and very nice story. (loved the terreforming effect:)
But everytime i got carried away, terrible voice acting and HORRENDOUS dialogues killed the moment . |
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