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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
75
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Posted - 2012.12.30 05:20:00 -
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The problem comes from lack of consequences of killing a corp mate. CCP obviously set it up so Corp mates could practice fighting. But they need to fix it with the 'duel' flagging they discussed for general use extending into Corps.
As the current situation says either you trust, and eventually you will get screwed. Or you don't trust, and everyone around you suffers.
Sure Eve is a cold hard Universe, but we probably just lost a bunch of new players who won't understand why on earth they got kicked. And thats nothing to do with 'Eve not being the game for them' or anything like that. They have no attachment to the game currently, so no reason to choose the game that they got randomly booted from a corp in over any other. |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.12.30 05:21:00 -
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3 pages of idiots because EVE is so much better thanks to them. Welcome to skuzbucket EVE. It's why every other "sandbox" is in a toilet and EVE will be eventually too. Because they belong there. |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1873
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Posted - 2012.12.30 05:24:00 -
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Not Politically Correct wrote:Why is anyone concerned with the fit?
Why does anyone want to be near anything that they are trying to kill?
Sorry to bring a ray of RL in here, but I was taught not to take a knife to a fight where the other guy might be able call in an air strike.
Oh. That's right, this isn't RL.
I don't even... |
Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Intrepid Crossing
266
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Posted - 2012.12.30 05:47:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I think everyone's missing the point... he claimed to have made a lot of isk mining. This is clearly a troll I made Billions mining. Tens of Billions of Billions of ISK. Like all careers, if you know what you are doing...
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2132
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Posted - 2012.12.30 05:59:00 -
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Pewty McPew wrote: You trusted a Goon? Once a Goon always a Goon. You got what you deserved and also learned an important lesson "NEVER TRUST A GOON"
I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale if you interested.
Emphasis added.
Man. I don't know what to tell you. That is an awesome loss. I know how that can bite... I used to be legit. But really... anyone who has anything to do with the goons will eventually get screwed. That is a FACT. I'm actually waiting with baited breath to see (not if but) how TEST Alliance Please Ignore deals with them. At some point there will be a falling out. At some point one will screw the other. It's just a matter of time and who goes first. Personally, I'm pulling for TEST because I like them better. But from the standpoint of precedence I would say the goons are holding most of the cards. I'm certain it will happen though...
But we humble and meager pods can only lose to goons. They are not miners. They are pro scammers. ...and you sir, just got taken for a goon ride.
Good read 4/10 (You'd have gotten more points if I didn't think you were a goon alt and that this was probably a veiled recruitment post for the goons...)
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4687
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Posted - 2012.12.30 06:11:00 -
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Definitely a sad state of affairs. +1 LIKE for the OP.
Over the past few years I've watched Eve Online slowly turn into Grief Online.
A lot of UN-trustworthy players in this game now. More than likely the main reason a lot of players stay in NPC Corp.
DMC |
Jamyl Khanid
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.12.30 06:14:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I think everyone's missing the point... he claimed to have made a lot of isk mining. This is clearly a troll I made Billions mining. Tens of Billions of Billions of ISK. Like all careers, if you know what you are doing...
In addition, not everyone is on the road to a trillion. For most people who pay with a credit card and play in moderation, 3-5 billion is a realistic goal. The 900 mill CNR loss still hurts but what really puts you out is a complete stranger so driven to make your game a pile of steaming crap. That isn't competition, sand box or in any way social behavior in an MMO setting. It's just strange people. |
Mia Leusten
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.12.30 06:29:00 -
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You got burned; live, learn and remember that it is internet spaceships. There was no reason to kick your entire corp full of newbies/bros out in the cold.
You need to be able to die in a fire laughing, and if you can't you are probably playing the wrong game. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2699
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Posted - 2012.12.30 06:37:00 -
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Mia Leusten wrote:You got burned; live, learn and remember that it is internet spaceships. There was no reason to kick your entire corp full of newbies/bros out in the cold.
You need to be able to die in a fire laughing, and if you can't you are probably playing the wrong game. The poor newbies... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
480
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Posted - 2012.12.30 07:12:00 -
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Take your assets, resign and hand it over to another active player.
Many years ago, I joined the Executor corp of a large alliance. The CEO of the corp and effectively the alliance saw people in that alliance doing things he didn't agree with. He pulled the corp and handed the alliance over to another corp. Establishing his own corp in a blue to the original alliance but soon after, he resigned and handed the corp off to another active member.
The new CEO took the corp out of the new alliance and put it in another one, where it became the executor corp of that alliance and now holds multiple stations in the North and is a prominent member of the CFC.
Imagine if Drakmor had done like you and had a tantrum, disbanded Clan Shadow Wolf. They would never have been in Fatal Ascension and I dare say, FA would not be where they are today.
It's too bad you had the unfortunate happening you had, OP but with all due respect? Grow up. |
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Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1785
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Posted - 2012.12.30 08:53:00 -
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Not Politically Correct wrote:He killed my CNR right outside of my home station. 994 million ISK down the tubes. Could happen to anyone, it happens on a daily basis on some community, you just can't help it. That's why corp uses vouches or specific entry requirements for recruitment. Learn from it.
Not Politically Correct wrote:All the members of the corp are now in stasis and will be kicked as soon as they come out. Applications will be disabled permanently. I'm not going to quit the game, because I like it, but I would much rather fly solo, and auto-reject, than get another surprise like that. You're a douchebag, nuff said. How to : Playing Eve 100% Risk and Conflict FREE! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2733
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Posted - 2012.12.30 09:02:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:Not Politically Correct wrote:He killed my CNR right outside of my home station. 994 million ISK down the tubes. Could happen to anyone, it happens on a daily basis on some community, you just can't help it. That's why corp uses vouches or specific entry requirements for recruitment. Learn from it. Not Politically Correct wrote:All the members of the corp are now in stasis and will be kicked as soon as they come out. Applications will be disabled permanently. I'm not going to quit the game, because I like it, but I would much rather fly solo, and auto-reject, than get another surprise like that. You're a douchebag, nuff said. Yeah. The security deposit, for instance would mean such an action would make little sense.
Also, I bet now you've made a lot of newbies curious about awoxing. All it takes is a spot in a corp and something like a Catalyst. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Kalishka Ulsguld
The Everly Sisters Co Ltd
53
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Posted - 2012.12.30 14:28:00 -
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Who is this unsung hero? I believe he deserves a yummy cake . |
Wacktopia
Noir. Black Legion.
360
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Posted - 2012.12.30 15:01:00 -
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Not Politically Correct wrote:
All the members of the corp are now in stasis and will be kicked as soon as they come out. Applications will be disabled permanently. I'm not going to quit the game, because I like it, but I would much rather fly solo, and auto-reject, than get another surprise like that.
'Nough said.
To be honest this is probably an extreme reaction you will probably look back on and reconsider.
If someone wants to be in your corp, ask them why. Then ask yourself if their answer can be achieved without them being in your corp.
It's also a good idea to get to know someone a bit more before trusting them with your prized possessions or allowing them a position of trust such as a scout or FC.
Talking to them on voice comms is another good idea. The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
Wacktopia
Noir. Black Legion.
360
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Posted - 2012.12.30 15:04:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Sarah Schneider wrote:Not Politically Correct wrote:He killed my CNR right outside of my home station. 994 million ISK down the tubes. Could happen to anyone, it happens on a daily basis on some community, you just can't help it. That's why corp uses vouches or specific entry requirements for recruitment. Learn from it. Not Politically Correct wrote:All the members of the corp are now in stasis and will be kicked as soon as they come out. Applications will be disabled permanently. I'm not going to quit the game, because I like it, but I would much rather fly solo, and auto-reject, than get another surprise like that. You're a douchebag, nuff said. Yeah. The security deposit, for instance would mean such an action would make little sense. Also, I bet now you've made a lot of newbies curious about awoxing. All it takes is a spot in a corp and something like a Catalyst.
I thought Awoxing was more about joining to take stuff rather than joining to gank? The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1279
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Posted - 2012.12.30 15:30:00 -
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I like the bit where you had doubts about the new guy, so immediately handed a billion isk killmail to him on a silver plate. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
305
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Posted - 2012.12.30 15:32:00 -
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OP, you could at least think about your corp members who have done nothing wrong. If you don-¦t want them in your corp anymore, tell them to throw me an eve-mail or apply to my corp directly.
While our corp tax is a bit higher (5%), we do run missions and are very supportive of each other (ship replacement program, loans as well as other benefits for our members).
Anyway, good luck for you in the future! Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Ahvram
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
53
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Posted - 2012.12.30 15:39:00 -
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I felt a bit bad for you intill you posted your CNR fit. 7x heavy launchers on a CNR shows you are new to eve and fitting and had no business trying to run a corp in the 1st place.
Edit: looking back your entire fit is just plain bad for L4 running. |
Mister S Burke
Giant Space Squid Mining Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.30 15:41:00 -
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Ocih wrote:
It's too bad you had the unfortunate happening you had, OP but with all due respect? Grow up.
Do you also tell raape victims they should not have been wearing such a cute short skirt? |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
483
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Posted - 2012.12.30 15:46:00 -
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Mister S Burke wrote:Do you also tell raape victims they should not have been wearing such a cute short skirt?
It's comments like these that make us despise highsec pubbies so much. The fact that you would go so far as to compare the loss of imaginary space pixels to a horrible real life crime speaks volumes. npc alts aren't people |
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
387
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Posted - 2012.12.30 15:55:00 -
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Not Politically Correct wrote:I've been playing since July of 2009. Had my ups and downs. Made a lot of ISK mining, lost a corp to an infiltrator, lost some expensive ships, blah, blah, blah.
Then I decided to start a mission running corp, and it was expanding nicely. 2.5% tax rate, Level 4 missions 18 hours a day even for people only 2 weeks old. It was a lot of fun helping them. Life was good.
Today I got an application from a 2007 player. +5.0 standing with Concord, no bounty, seemed like a nice guy, but there was a problem. He had been in both Goonswarm and Goonwaffe in 2010. So I asked him about that before accepting the application. He said that was a thing of the past, he had grown out of that phase.
Do you see where I am going now?
I accepted him and asked him along on a Level 4. He killed my CNR right outside of my home station. 994 million ISK down the tubes.
It was obviously my fault, as much for the things I did as the things I didn't do. But what's the result?
All the members of the corp are now in stasis and will be kicked as soon as they come out. Applications will be disabled permanently. I'm not going to quit the game, because I like it, but I would much rather fly solo, and auto-reject, than get another surprise like that.
'Nough said.
You got owned by one guy with an old tag from GS, does this means something about GS, players in, corporations in said alliance? -it doesn't It only proves how badly designed are corporation/alliance tools for grunts and leadership in it. It has nothing to do with GS, as far as I'm concerned that guy could come from HBC, Red Alliance, CVA, NC, or whatever other alliance. Every single major alliance has special wings, scam, gank, trading, fuel etc. Some are just more vocal than the others but this should not discourage you from doing whatever in the game.
Step on, move on, tell yourself you just learned something and think about how you're going to avoid this next time or make sort the attempt miserably fails. |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1749
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Posted - 2012.12.30 16:04:00 -
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Hi,
I've had to remove a pretty offensive post and the ones quoting it.
Please don't go there again. ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Mister S Burke
Giant Space Squid Mining Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.30 16:13:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Mister S Burke wrote:Do you also tell raape victims they should not have been wearing such a cute short skirt? It's comments like these that make us despise highsec pubbies so much. The fact that you would go so far as to compare the loss of imaginary space pixels to a horrible real life crime speaks volumes.
Sure, like virtual sociopaths really need a big reason to despise anyone. |
Kestrix
Industrial Renaissance MinTek Conglomerate
42
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Posted - 2012.12.30 16:13:00 -
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In eve you can't really trust anyone, sad but true. I have been fortunate to have a number of friends who also play/have played this game and though the added trust of knowing each other we have come on a long way.
The best you can do is just try to be really careful about who you let in and what you give them access to. Most corp thieves in my experience tend to be too keen to play their cards and will leave once they find out it'll be months before they will get a look into the corp hangers let alone actually have the rights to remove stuff.
As to griefers attacking corp members this is someting I have yet to run into. But having put a little thought into the matter, I might be wrong and I'm not going to put this to the test but I belive you can't attack alliance members. So have your own corp with just you and your trusted members if any and have an alt run a recruitment corp within your alliance and put nothing in that corp thats attractive to griefers. |
Mister S Burke
Giant Space Squid Mining Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.30 16:19:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Hi,
I've had to remove a pretty offensive post and the ones quoting it.
Please don't go there again.
My bad, you will have to excuse me, I'm American so I'm not used to censorship. if you think that's bad...just kidding.
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Opertone
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
251
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Posted - 2012.12.30 16:20:00 -
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Why does this sort of things happen in EvE?
Impunity, your enemy can dock up and log off, you never catch him. At the same time, your enemy can be playing on other accounts.
If only you could hurt logged off characters, or somehow plot assassination when somebody is docked.
Then Karma and Punishment would be serious business. Today, money stolen can be easily moved to another character. Your enemy keeps his identity, but switches body, immortal. Also, his body can not be hurt, as long as he stays docked. |
Ghazu
412
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Posted - 2012.12.30 16:45:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Definitely a sad state of affairs. +1 LIKE for the OP. Over the past few years I've watched Eve Online slowly turn into Grief Online. A lot of UN-trustworthy players in this game now. More than likely the main reason a lot of players stay in NPC Corp. DMC +1 LIKE for the victim, I love it when they cry. 4 year old npc duder, "that's way no one can hurt me". http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4690
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Posted - 2012.12.30 18:21:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Definitely a sad state of affairs. +1 LIKE for the OP. Over the past few years I've watched Eve Online slowly turn into Grief Online. A lot of UN-trustworthy players in this game now. More than likely the main reason a lot of players stay in NPC Corp. DMC +1 LIKE for the victim, I love it when they cry. 4 year old npc duder, "that's way no one can hurt me".
Hahaha, what a fail attempt at trying to flame shame me. Obviously you must not understand what the 'wink' means at the end of my statement. Either that or in your haste at trying to flame shame me, you completely missed the 'wink'. Oh yeah, I'm proud to be in NPC corp.
Anyway, what's really funny is that your 2 year old Goon character has no battle record at all, win or lose, yet you post like you're some sort of big bad PvP'er with ton's of solo kills. Seems hiding in a large player made Corporation / Alliance is definitely the best way to stay safe, right?
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2845
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Posted - 2012.12.30 18:25:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Definitely a sad state of affairs. +1 LIKE for the OP. Over the past few years I've watched Eve Online slowly turn into Grief Online. A lot of UN-trustworthy players in this game now. More than likely the main reason a lot of players stay in NPC Corp. DMC +1 LIKE for the victim, I love it when they cry. 4 year old npc duder, "that's way no one can hurt me". Until they get ganked anyway. Heh Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Etherealclams
Clams ate my Narwhal
256
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Posted - 2012.12.30 18:25:00 -
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1. No one cares 2. You let a goon in, what did you expect? A change of heart? 3. Lol. (a¦á_a¦â) -á(GîÉGûá_Gûá) (a¦á_a¦á) GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ |
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