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Xutech
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:30:00 -
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I think he raises some valid and interesting points. |
Tribal Solidarity
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:30:00 -
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Lol. That is all. |
Jonah Gravenstein
25
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:33:00 -
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The OPs tears are so good that I, a dedicated carebear, am seriously tempted to go and harvest some other bears for my own self gratification.
Goons & the like may act like asshats, they're allowed to act like asshats, that's what makes this game so interesting, if you don't like asshattery, GTFO. --CATPAIN KIRK wrote: your not black - I've seen you in that video. I meant you write like an american but speak a somewhat difrent langauge - a bit like scotish or sumthing.-- |
Rixx Javix
Lucifer's Hammer Burn Away
11
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:47:00 -
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Years ago I learned that every time I popped a Miner/Indy a kitten died in the real world somewhere.
Didn't stop me. http://eveoganda.blogspot.com |
Ruby Hotrod
X Generation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:52:00 -
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....Bitter vet fanbois |
Vladimir Helios
Rayn Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:54:00 -
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Alidar wrote:oh and btw since i posted this thread i have gotten over 3000 DoS attacks to my router, lucky me they don't work through my security protocols, also lucky me the ip addresses responsible for them get recorded and traced by my system, and rest assured, police will be called in the morning
Oh god, he's backtraced it. |
Jooce McNasty
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:59:00 -
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Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:The main problem here is that your comparing EVE to Western Earth Modern Culture.
What part of EVE is Western Civilization? We have the most powerful faction in EVE being religious god-fearing men who still condone with slavery. A tribal group of former slaves. A nation that focuses entirely on profit and everyone being useful and whatever the Gallente are.
However, you are too ethnocentric to even begin to think that a world where Earth's Western Society does not exist would have the exact same rules as Earth's Western Society. actually all i'm stating is that pvpers act like paranoid dillusional psychotics working in a gun store, though i guess i really don't see even as much harm in that, but anyway i'm also saying that as a paying customer, which i am due to the outrageous shortage of isk for plex due to my exhumers being one shotted by bullies who have no one better to shoot, and as a paying customer i should have the choice whether or not to let a some coward with a gun to come in and shoot me point blank in my skull like some unsuspecting toddler
As a paying customer you have the option to stop playing if you do not like the rules that the game has put forth. No one is forcing you to play this game. They have rules and consequences for these nasty hi sec gankers and its called Conkorded, also no one is forcing you to mine where they are playing.
This game is a sandbox and if some kid keeps kicking down your castle where you build it maybe its time to move somewhere else and build there. |
Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
45
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:13:00 -
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Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
Dont get mad. get even. |
KaarBaak
73
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:16:00 -
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Alidar wrote:oh and btw since i posted this thread i have gotten over 3000 DoS attacks to my router, lucky me they don't work through my security protocols, also lucky me the ip addresses responsible for them get recorded and traced by my system, and rest assured, police will be called in the morning
How.....?
But...why.....?
Oh for the love of....stop....just....stop.
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Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:20:00 -
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KaarBaak wrote:Alidar wrote:oh and btw since i posted this thread i have gotten over 3000 DoS attacks to my router, lucky me they don't work through my security protocols, also lucky me the ip addresses responsible for them get recorded and traced by my system, and rest assured, police will be called in the morning How.....? But...why.....? Oh for the love of....stop....just....stop.
Didn't you know? He's "important". |
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Devil's Call
Omega Legion XIII
658
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:37:00 -
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Haha, look at his portrait. I bet you guys got trolled big time;p. Plus I can't imagine somebody being THIS ignorant really. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:43:00 -
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Alidar wrote:sadly you are mistaken, i mine to afford the skills i need to be able to fly a titan
I can't wait for the "Erebus pilot goes mental" thread on Kugu |
Sarrilai Snipershot
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:47:00 -
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Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up
OK, it looks like someone has absolutely no clue as to how this game works, so let me enlighten you a little bit. Eve Online is a PvP game, plain and simple. The moment you hit the "Undock" button on your NeoCom, you are consenting to PvP, even in so called "safe" High-Sec. As the Goons have been proving, the only places that are truly safe are an NPC station or a safe spot with a CovOps Cloak.
Now, the way I see it, you have a few options. You can either: A) Quit the game. B) Grow a pair and fight back. C) Move to a different region. D) Find something else to do.
Hell, if you have some liquid ISK to invest, start buying the modules they usually use at a low-ish price a few regions away and then bring them in and make some mad cash off the Gooons' suicidal new project. You have all sorts of avenues open to you to get around their ganking and have fun/make money but instead you're here whining and crying cause they blew up your favourite toy. Eve is a very cruel and unforgiving environment. If you're looking for hugs, sunshine, and fields of flowers where everyone gets along, Hello Kitty Island is =========> that-a-way. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:49:00 -
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Dyner wrote:KaarBaak wrote:Alidar wrote:oh and btw since i posted this thread i have gotten over 3000 DoS attacks to my router, lucky me they don't work through my security protocols, also lucky me the ip addresses responsible for them get recorded and traced by my system, and rest assured, police will be called in the morning How.....? But...why.....? Oh for the love of....stop....just....stop. Didn't you know? He's "impotent". FYP
CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
eatsbabies cienfuegos
Chernovan
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:57:00 -
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Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
if it was 50 years ago would you call us 'communists' instead?
the truth is: PVP is what makes the game exciting. everything else is fluff. |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
73
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:58:00 -
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I looked up BRABODEN in game. I then realised we had set them red. Then I realised it was because they are all as ******** as OP.
Still, when they try to camp your WH in a 400mil stealth bomber they're pretty welcome to have around. (EDIT: links still don't ******* work, so copy-paste http://www.suddenbuggery.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1667)
Further reading: I never wanted that Carrier anyway
tl;dr - I don't think OP is trolling. Flame on. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:00:00 -
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Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
Gankers aren't interested in pew pew, they are interested in taking your ISK and or causing you tears.
Don't try to make sense out of it, you can't, cause you are dealing with a bunch of teenagers. They are lashing out any way they can, just pity them and move on.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:08:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft.... Gankers aren't interested in pew pew, they are interested in taking your ISK and or causing you tears. Don't try to make sense out of it, you can't, cause you are dealing with a bunch of teenagers. They are lashing out any way they can, just pity them and move on.
its true my mom never loved me
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ChYph3r
Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance
9
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:08:00 -
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Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
Ummmm yeah, If ya dont like it go back to freakin WoW. With the rest of the fairy lovers! AMP - Angry Monkey Podcast |
Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:12:00 -
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Sarrilai Snipershot wrote:Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up OK, it looks like someone has absolutely no clue as to how this game works, so let me enlighten you a little bit. Eve Online is a PvP game, plain and simple. The moment you hit the "Undock" button on your NeoCom, you are consenting to PvP, even in so called "safe" High-Sec. As the Goons have been proving, the only places that are truly safe are an NPC station or a safe spot with a CovOps Cloak. Now, the way I see it, you have a few options. You can either: A) Quit the game. B) Grow a pair and fight back. C) Move to a different region. D) Find something else to do. Hell, if you have some liquid ISK to invest, start buying the modules they usually use at a low-ish price a few regions away and then bring them in and make some mad cash off the Gooons' suicidal new project. You have all sorts of avenues open to you to get around their ganking and have fun/make money but instead you're here whining and crying cause they blew up your favourite toy. Eve is a very cruel and unforgiving environment. If you're looking for hugs, sunshine, and fields of flowers where everyone gets along, Hello Kitty Island is =========> that-a-way.
Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks.
Look at real life - when you leave your house, do you 'consent' to being mugged? No you don't , but you do accept that it could happen, but there are deterrents in place to help guard against it happening.
I have to ask, where are the actual empire forces in all of this - surely if the Gallente Federation's economy is being manipulated in this fashion, and not to their benefit, they would be doing something about it and not sitting back and allow 'invaders' to come in ruin their empire for them (look at the two most protectionist countries in the real world, China and the US - would they allow this to happen?)...so its not Concord that should be taking action, but the Gallente Navy. But, because the whole game mechanic for these actions is, while not broken, unrealistic, the Goons can do what they want.
On top of the post-Incarna Perpetuum effect which severely reduced player numbers, I suspect that there are many 'casual gamers - those who come on to mine and hang out with their corpies (in other words, the silent majority) who will probably think "screw this" as a waste of my monthly subscription. And of course now people are being offered a protection racket to get 'grey' standings with the Goons - who will probably gank them anyway!
As for making modules to sell to the Goons - why would I want to help someone screw the game even more?
I won't unsubscribe and will do other stuff to fill in my time online - but that means I'm playing someone else's EVE online, not mine.
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
77
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:16:00 -
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Because in EVE Online, the terrorists do win.
(And we are all thankful for that. If you are not thankful, and do not want the terrorists to win, then go play SW:TOR, WOW, or GOP Online.) What God Wants, God Gets, God Help Us All |
David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
53
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:21:00 -
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i find that most pvper's are ok and understand the need for industrialists
but you do get a good few immature kids that like to be a schoolyard bully in this sandbox game.
they hide behind their insecurities by bullying those defenceless players such as noobs and miners cos its easier than dealing with having small todgers or have yet to come out of closets in real life or something but i guess we'll never know. |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
18
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:22:00 -
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Hestia Mar wrote:Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks.
Yeah, you are right. It should read: "if you register you consent to PvP"
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:24:00 -
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Hestia Mar wrote:Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks. Look at real life - when you leave your house, do you 'consent' to being mugged? No you don't , but you do accept that it could happen, but there are deterrents in place to help guard against it happening. I have to ask, where are the actual empire forces in all of this - surely if the Gallente Federation's economy is being manipulated in this fashion, and not to their benefit, they would be doing something about it and not sitting back and allow 'invaders' to come in ruin their empire for them (look at the two most protectionist countries in the real world, China and the US - would they allow this to happen?)...so its not Concord that should be taking action, but the Gallente Navy. But, because the whole game mechanic for these actions is, while not broken, unrealistic, the Goons can do what they want. On top of the post-Incarna Perpetuum effect which severely reduced player numbers, I suspect that there are many 'casual gamers - those who come on to mine and hang out with their corpies (in other words, the silent majority) who will probably think "screw this" as a waste of my monthly subscription. And of course now people are being offered a protection racket to get 'grey' standings with the Goons - who will probably gank them anyway! As for making modules to sell to the Goons - why would I want to help someone screw the game even more? I won't unsubscribe and will do other stuff to fill in my time online - but that means I'm playing someone else's EVE online, not mine. H
Sorry, but your argument falls apart with the "real life" comparison. Yes, when you undock, you automatically consent to losing your ship. The Concord mechanic does not exist to make high-sec safe, it exists to create an illusion of safety, and at the very least to make gankers weigh the costs (ship+fittings minus insurance) against the benefits (loot from your ship, recipient's rage, whatever)
You are a lot like the idiots who cry about Hulkageddons. |
KaarBaak
73
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:25:00 -
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Hestia Mar wrote:
Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks.
Look at real life...
Eve is a "Real Life Simulator?"
If so, it's failing in more areas than PvP.
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1154
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:26:00 -
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I am certain that acting like a brat to people who are responding to your thread is going to go well for the OP. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:27:00 -
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David Grogan wrote:i find that most pvper's are ok and understand the need for industrialists
but you do get a good few immature kids that like to be a schoolyard bully in this sandbox game.
they hide behind their insecurities by bullying those defenceless players such as noobs and miners cos its easier than dealing with having small todgers or have yet to come out of closets in real life or something but i guess we'll never know.
please tell me more about your degree in armchair psychology |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
390
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:36:00 -
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What theGǪ how theGǪ whyGǪ UGH! Well, that clears things up immensely, to be honest.
Hestia Mar wrote:Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks. GǪapart from it being 100 percent true, that is. When you undock log in, you do so into a full-PvP environment and agree to pretty much anything anyone else might do to you. You are given all the tools you need to prevent this from happening and from there on, it's your choice how things play out. No, let's not. Instead, look at these oven mitts shaped and textured like a tiny piggy with its omgzcute snout and tailGǪ Why? Because those mitts are roughly 80 percent more relevant to what happens in-game than real life.
Quote:when you leave your house, do you 'consent' to being mugged? Actually you do, due to the tiny detail you left out: that you willingly moved to Mugger's Lane, Robbersville, in the northern part of WeNickYourStuffistan GÇö a street, city and nation where theGǪ ehmGǪ let's call it GÇ£unplanned redistribution of propertyGÇ£ is the national sport, universal pass-time and, not the least, the accepted way to say GÇ£good morningGÇ¥ to your next-door neighbour (in fact, your neighbour would consider you outright rude and tell on you to the local McCarthy-wannabe if you ever accidentally returned that lawn-mower you GÇ£borrowedGÇ¥ five summers ago).
Quote:I have to ask, where are the actual empire forces in all of this As little involved as they can get away with is where they are, for we are capsuleers GÇö immortal demigods that do not answer to their impotent courts and legal systems (and, with the wealth of plants at our personal disposal, we'd just buy the court and everyone in it if they ever tried to drag us in there)
So mighty are we that they had to hand over the handling of us to a special cross-empire entity that extensively uses cheats and backdoors to make us stop tearing up the neighbourhood. But again, there is that wealth of planets bit, and this institution is just as easily corrupted as any other and will happily avert their eyes for a nominal fee.
Sure, the empires themselves might give some token resistance if you we offend them and stray into their space, but that's just for show and to placate the plebs GÇö their actual tactics show that they just prefer it if we simply sod off and bother someone else. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
19
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:41:00 -
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Hestia Mar wrote:Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks.
Look at real life........... RL comparisons with Eve are fail.
But you are correct in a way, that you don't even need to undock to consent to PvP, for the game is PvP centric. Almost everything we do in Eve is PvP.
Beat to the punch by Tippia yet again. CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Ryan Startalker Zhang
Zervas Aeronautics Something Posing As Meat
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:44:00 -
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@OP
You sir had came to the wrong universe. This is EVE, not Earth. EVE is real, but it's different reality from your definition of law and justice.
Read more Chronicles. It would help you understand that. |
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