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Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
105
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:17:00 -
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The *ONLY* thing that needs to be made harder is the use of recycled alts to do suicide ganking.
This used to be considered an exploit, but is now only considered an exploit if the amount of recycling is "excessive". |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:21:00 -
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Last time i was ganking hulks and macks in belts funny thing is we warned them 10 minutes before in local not to mine or they will loose their ships. No one took us seriously until they lost their ships and then raged in the local. I dont get that. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
126
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:23:00 -
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Ogi Talvanen wrote:Last time i was ganking hulks and macks in belts funny thing is we warned them 10 minutes before in local not to mine or they will loose their ships. No one took us seriously until they lost their ships and then raged in the local. I dont get that.
Combination of Entitlement Syndrome (the game OWES me this ore and isk) and an arrogant belief that they're invincible in highsec (which is why this is so fun). |
baltec1
92
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:23:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Xython wrote:
Why would it? It's supposed to be weak. You're supposed to have an escort if you're in a dangerous area.
Tactics that makes no sense in current game mechanics: Check.
Defending yourselves is clearly a stupid thing to have to do in a pvp game. |
Alara IonStorm
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:26:00 -
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Xython wrote:
Yes, I'm actually a really, really BadPoster pubbie. Botting is the Goonswarm rules, and the last thing I'd do is break the Goonswarm rules.
As a fat lazy AFK mining pubbie with an entitlement complex who feels he should be able to just set up his ice miner bot and come back a few billion isk richer. I'll bite. What exist that suggest "fat lazy afk pubbie" is a character flaw.
I can't wait to see wrap your cute little head around the guys. It'll be 20 of them.
Removed some letters, it made a lot more sense. |
Hershman
G-Weezy
1
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:26:00 -
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A man once said, "protek yose'f at all times."
Then he said, "we get a rematch tho, aigt?" |
Zerra Zeta
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:26:00 -
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k, just don't change 'afk' cloaking (it's a viable tactic), easy suicide ganking is sort of silly.... actually I wonder if the goons are working with hellmar |
Alara IonStorm
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: Defending yourselves is clearly a stupid thing to have to do in a pvp game.
Yes that Escort is really gonna help you when you get alpha'd |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
81
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:29:00 -
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ooh ooh the check box game. I love the check box game. Let me play too.
Alara IonStorm wrote:Xython wrote:
Why would it? It's supposed to be weak. You're supposed to have an escort if you're in a dangerous area.
Tactics that makes no sense in current game mechanics: Check. Claiming that common sense tactics don't make sense "in current game mechanics": CheckXython wrote: And with the Goons around, Gallente Ice Fields are a dangerous area.
Self Gratification(the only kind a Goon understands): Check. Ad Hom Strike against "a Goon" for making a fairly plain and obvious statement: CheckXython wrote: I'm really sorry your guys' Ice Miner Bot Alts got ganked, but that's the chances you take when you run an AFK Bot.
Baseless Accusation: Check Bonus Points: A member Goonswarm condemning botting. Guilty Concience: Check
Bonus Points: Implying that somebody is guilty of something based only on rumors and heresay: CheckThe results: definitely your average Goon post.
The Results: Definitely your average NPC corp member posting about those big bad goonies. |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:34:00 -
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Watch local. Be aligned. Dont afk. Use warp core stabilizer. Tank ship. |
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Alara IonStorm
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:34:00 -
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David Cedarbridge wrote: Claiming that common sense tactics don't make sense "in current game mechanics": Check
Escorts do not help with Alpha Mechanics.
David Cedarbridge wrote: Ad Hom Strike against "a Goon" for making a fairly plain and obvious statement: Check
In my defence Goons are pretty plain.
David Cedarbridge wrote: Guilty Concience: Check
Well I did murdered a Hooker once.
David Cedarbridge wrote: Bonus Points: Implying that somebody is guilty of something based only on rumors and heresay: Check
I am a pretty massive hypocrite
David Cedarbridge wrote: The Results: Definitely your average NPC corp member posting about those big bad goonies.
I never liked that movie. |
baltec1
93
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:35:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:baltec1 wrote: Defending yourselves is clearly a stupid thing to have to do in a pvp game.
Yes that Escort is really gonna help you when you get alpha'd
So dont let them shoot you |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:37:00 -
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Zerra Zeta wrote:k, just don't change 'afk' cloaking (it's a viable tactic), easy suicide ganking is sort of silly.... actually I wonder if the goons are working with hellmar
Er, can you try that again with sentences? I think you're saying we like AFK cloaking (we -- or at least I -- don't), but I don't want to get all ranty only to hear you say "er, that's what I meant" after the fact.
That's considered a FAUX PAS, after all. |
Zerra Zeta
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:39:00 -
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Xython wrote:Zerra Zeta wrote:k, just don't change 'afk' cloaking (it's a viable tactic), easy suicide ganking is sort of silly.... actually I wonder if the goons are working with hellmar Er, can you try that again with sentences? I think you're saying we like AFK cloaking (we -- or at least I -- don't), but I don't want to get all ranty only to hear you say "er, that's what I meant" after the fact. That's considered a FAUX PAS, after all.
I don't, I mean I could find one. An explanation I mean. |
Alara IonStorm
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:39:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:So dont let them shoot you So Grav Belts, D-Scan, Watch Lists and such.
Great but I already know that and was advising people do do that last Hulkageddon.
But what does that have to do with the aforementioned fail tactics you were quoting me on.
Oh is this that thing where your argument falls apart so you bring up a different point that makes sense and try to bait me into disagreeing.
It was a nice try.
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
93
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:39:00 -
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I think it's time for another geddon, specifically targeting the OP :)
Anyway, Ice mining in empire will die when we get Time Dilation..
If you think mining is boring now and automatable, wait until Time Dilation comes :)
Bots will fail, Mining will take even longer and they will leave empire.
if you want to tank a miner, get a fleet booster and hardwires... otherwise... take your chance like all the rest.
To all in Empire... if you see an AFK pod in HIGHSEC, GANK IT.... remind them that high sec is NOT safe, just safer.
I now declare this weekend,... Hug a highsec pod weekend.
If you buff CONCORD, we will just bring even more hell down on empire than you currently see today. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:41:00 -
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Ogi Talvanen wrote:Watch local. Be aligned. Dont afk. Use warp core stabilizer. Tank ship.
Give this man a prize, he can now be king of the potato people.
Er, I mean pubbies. Pubbies.
Seriously, this isn't HARD.
Ogi -- you did forget the most important part:
Don't mine Ice in Gallente Space. We will find you. We will kill you. We will laugh at your crappy threads crying about it. Go mine elsewhere. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
81
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:42:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:David Cedarbridge wrote: Claiming that common sense tactics don't make sense "in current game mechanics": Check
Escorts do not help with Alpha Mechanics. This strawman doesn't work. If you don't know how to warp out of danger or don't know how to align out to make that warping possible then you run the same risk as anyone else does of losing their ship. At least, you run the same level of risk as the rest of those players who have not learned these basic skills. And yes, this will protect you from getting alpha'd assuming you're actually present at your computer and paying attention to what is going on around you. There are a multitude of things that can be done to prevent you from losing your ship. Whining on the forums isn't one of them and I'm not here to teach you. I'm not your mother.David Cedarbridge wrote: Bonus Points: Implying that somebody is guilty of something based only on rumors and heresay: Check I am a pretty massive hypocrite You said it, not me. [quote=David Cedarbridge] The Results: Definitely your average NPC corp member posting about those big bad goonies.
I never liked that movie. Poor taste in movies detected |
Alara IonStorm
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:43:00 -
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Miilla wrote:I think it's time for another geddon, specifically targeting the OP :)
Oh me, me too. I do not mine so that might be a problem but I do have a shiny new Noctis with no tank that I use some times.
I am poor cause I just re-subbed and spent all my PvP monies on a Maelstrom and the above Noctis to re-earn it.
Anyway level 4's are boring so please consider me when looking for your next victim.
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Alara IonStorm
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:47:00 -
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David Cedarbridge wrote: I'm not your mother.[/b][/u]
Swipes hair sample. We will see about this won't we.
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Avid Bumhumper
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:47:00 -
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Sorry, while not a big fan of miner gankers, it's working as intended.
If they are willing to take the sec hit, and the ship loss, then that's their issue. Only additional item that would make sense from a game standpoint is Concord impounding the insurance payout as a fine. If people really want to gank, that wouldn't be much of a deterrent.
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baltec1
93
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:52:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:baltec1 wrote:So dont let them shoot you So Grav Belts, D-Scan, Watch Lists and such. Great but I already know that and was advising people do do that last Hulkageddon. But what does that have to do with the aforementioned fail tactics you were quoting me on. Oh is this that thing where your argument falls apart so you bring up a different point that makes sense and try to bait me into disagreeing. It was a nice try.
There ate plently of tools to avoid getting killed. If you are too daft to use them then you deserve every bad thing that happens to you. |
Thomas Abernathy
Viziam Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:53:00 -
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Avid Bumhumper wrote:Sorry, while not a big fan of miner gankers, it's working as intended.
If they are willing to take the sec hit, and the ship loss, then that's their issue. Only additional item that would make sense from a game standpoint is Concord impounding the insurance payout as a fine. If people really want to gank, that wouldn't be much of a deterrent.
Perhaps this might be a good change...Concord takes a percentage of the Insurance payout based on the characters sec status. Wouldn't stop me from ganking, but might make it a bit more selective.
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Alara IonStorm
Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:55:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: There ate plently of tools to avoid getting killed. If you are too daft to use them then you deserve every bad thing that happens to you.
How do you use them if you ate them?
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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2011.10.15 17:02:00 -
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yes tolittle/no insurance to gankers no to increase response time. |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2011.10.15 17:22:00 -
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Xython wrote: Ogi -- you did forget the most important part:
I dont think i need to tell them that mining with a bunch of gankers near you is a big nono. Or maybe i do? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
502
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Posted - 2011.10.15 17:26:00 -
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Ogi Talvanen wrote:I dont think i need to tell them that mining with a bunch of gankers near you is a big nono. Or maybe i do? Considering the level of smarts that is often displayed in these situations, you probably doGǪ unfortunately. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
110
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Posted - 2011.10.15 17:56:00 -
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Hows this for a buff for miners. Change ECM Bursts so they don't get you concorded, and give them that extra chance to run.
Make them highslots tho, so they have to sacrifice a miner to fit one o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Uskos
New Ceres Economics and Logsitcs
0
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Posted - 2011.10.15 18:05:00 -
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The only thing that needs to be changed is the fact that the insurance is still payed out for them. Otherwise all is okay. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
115
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Posted - 2011.10.15 18:22:00 -
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Dont remove ganking just ban GSF |
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