yes, i know. It's old story. But...

There was presentation about Eve Online market history. And man spoke about PLEX crysis and CCP PLEX intervention to prevent market crush. And he especially mentioned that they DIDN"T MADE any PLEX "from air". They used PLEXes from banned accounts. It made me wonder what is so special about it?

My point of view (yes it could be short-sighted and/or completely wrong so it's always to be corrected).
PLEXes are always born from "thin air": they weren't manufactured or something. One pays real money to CCP, CCP creates PLEX. One uses PLEX to add game time, PLEX disappears into nowhere. The same happens when CCP bans account: all PLEXes belong to this account literally "disappear" from the game (at least market doesn't see these PLEXes and they cannot be bought/sold/used/whatever). If CCP used PLEXes from banned accounts they literally "create" these PLEXes (market starts to see these PLEXes).

Do i miss something? Would like to hear. Thanks

he meant , that each plex ingame was actually "created" with real money before entering the game .
So the plex they used to solve the problem 2k , werent just made by them (thus loosing the profit of 2000 plexes) but were actually introduced ingame one day by someone who payed for them .

ok. let's say they created these 2000 PLEXes. After market is stabilized they removed these 2000 PLEXes.

What would be different in this case?

if they create 2000 plex , they gift 2000 month's of gameplay time to someone to theyre sub's , they get isk (but for them isk is pointless )
So after they need to remove , so they buy 2000 plexes ? then they give away EVEN more isk (which is bad and not player made )

They'd also remove a trillion ISK or so from player hands.

That does bring up an interesting question. When CCP sells PLEX, from banned accounts, what do they do with the ISK?

yes, i know. It's old story. But...

There was presentation about Eve Online market history. And man spoke about PLEX crysis and CCP PLEX intervention to prevent market crush. And he especially mentioned that they DIDN"T MADE any PLEX "from air". They used PLEXes from banned accounts. It made me wonder what is so special about it?

My point of view (yes it could be short-sighted and/or completely wrong so it's always to be corrected).
PLEXes are always born from "thin air": they weren't manufactured or something. One pays real money to CCP, CCP creates PLEX. One uses PLEX to add game time, PLEX disappears into nowhere. The same happens when CCP bans account: all PLEXes belong to this account literally "disappear" from the game (at least market doesn't see these PLEXes and they cannot be bought/sold/used/whatever). If CCP used PLEXes from banned accounts they literally "create" these PLEXes (market starts to see these PLEXes).

Do i miss something? Would like to hear. Thanks

i would say "keep em" for future needs ... I mean if they need to intervene in future its more correct to use "actual money" and not "created one" i understand bot ISK may be bad to be introduced in ingame economy , but this PLEXes were bought with actually made ISK by players .

They also mentioned they do some trading also , so afaik , the wealth they get is used by them in certain situations following theyre doctrine not to mess around with it to much , or use only ingame mechanics and available resources like real players .

So even if they "fix" this fix is done by actualy gameplay means .

If they are going to be correct the isk went onto the banned accounts. I think part of the reason they did this is they realized they caused part of the plex price rise by allowing the macros, to run for to long and allow them to continously eat up plex supply. To reverse this issue they are turning the plex back free. THe only problem is that they are now in effect destroying isk, the macros in general did not cause the isk faucet unless they were ratting bots.

That does bring up an interesting question. When CCP sells PLEX, from banned accounts, what do they do with the ISK?

CCP is the central bank of Eve. Central banks are evil by nature. Can't be avoided.
If they are public they go corrupt and if they are private they do things to lace their own pockets. (( Also Corrupt ))

This means every time CCP sells a player a banned account PLEX they not only look but become healthier to their share holders. (( More money in the CEO and boards pockets ))

That does bring up an interesting question. When CCP sells PLEX, from banned accounts, what do they do with the ISK?

This means every time CCP sells a player a banned account PLEX they not only look but become healthier to their share holders. (( More money in the CEO and boards pockets ))

Next time they say: It's to help the players feel free to come back to this post.

The "we get them from banned accounts" thing was evasive, deliberately confusing and meaningless. They don't get the PLEX from banned accounts, it wouldn't make any sense, botters don't hoard PLEX, they get isk and then they sell it, what CCP do is get isk from banned accounts. If all they're doing to control the PLEX market is buy PLEX low and sell them higher then there are thousands of people in Jita already trying to help.

All PLEX have always been created out of thin air and CCP have been directly interfering in the PLEX market ever since they started running sales and that's the way it has always been.

Scenario one
1) Hey, we need to reduce the price of plex, let's create some obligations that we don't need to by handing out PLEX.

Scenario two
2) Hey, we need to reduce the price of plex, when people we normally sell obligations to get them let's give them some more for the same amount of money.

Both create obligations that CCP wouldn't have otherwise. It really isn't any different. Also I'm assuming CCP have concluded that if the price of PLEX gets too high people will unsub various alts etc and therefore keeping it low by running PLEX sales is worth the loss of income per PLEX for greater overall sales of game time.