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Imperishable
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.03 06:54:00 -
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I saw a guy pop a cyno at exact center of the sun. I warped there and got bumped out by the sun, yet I didn't see any ships there.
Does anyone know what's going on? |
Etteluor
Debitum Naturae WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.07.03 06:56:00 -
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Whoever lit the cyno made a bookmark at the center of the sun, warped to it, and lit the cyno before they got bounced. Its actually against the rules to intentionally move after you light a cyno so if you know who did it you can petition them if you care. |
Imperishable
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.07.03 07:01:00 -
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the guy used this cyno to jump a Rorqual, it got bumped out and then cloaked |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8794
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Posted - 2013.07.03 07:02:00 -
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Etteluor wrote:Its actually against the rules to intentionally move after you light a cyno so if you know who did it you can petition them if you care. Quote on this?
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Evei Shard
201
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Posted - 2013.07.03 07:53:00 -
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Hot drop an entire fleet of titans, supercaps, capitals and various ships all at once, and you have a gigantic explosion of ships. That might be entertaining Profit favors the prepared |
Daisai
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
100
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Posted - 2013.07.03 20:33:00 -
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Smart use of the in game mechanics, its bumping so its allowed.
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Istyn
Freight Club Whores in space
220
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Posted - 2013.07.03 20:48:00 -
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Imperishable wrote:I saw a guy pop a cyno at exact center of the sun. I warped there and got bumped out by the sun, yet I didn't see any ships there.
Does anyone know what's going on?
This:
http://forpeetsakes.com/speedtankfreighter.jpg |
Imperishable
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.03 20:49:00 -
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Daisai wrote:Smart use of the in game mechanics, its bumping so its allowed.
It bypasses the intended purpose of having a cyno beacon that is visible to everyone. What's the point of warping to a beacon if nobody will be there and you can't even kill the ship that lit the cyno |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
682
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Posted - 2013.07.03 20:53:00 -
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Sorry, but any reasonable person would consider this an exploit. Nice idea though, it's probably going to be used to death until they fix it.
I too am excited about trading playability for more lag and shiny pictures.....:( Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
4878
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:21:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Etteluor wrote:Its actually against the rules to intentionally move after you light a cyno so if you know who did it you can petition them if you care. Quote on this?
Oh Chribba, you should know that half the rules quoted in GD are made up on the spot. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
962
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:25:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Chribba wrote:Etteluor wrote:Its actually against the rules to intentionally move after you light a cyno so if you know who did it you can petition them if you care. Quote on this? Oh Chribba, you should know that half the rules quoted in GD are made up on the spot. this is a well-known ruling as bumping cyno ship inside forcefields is an idea that resurfaces every so often |
Obunagawe
157
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:25:00 -
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Daisai wrote:Smart use of the in game mechanics, its bumping so its allowed.
Double standards ftw. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
602
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:27:00 -
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Etteluor wrote:Whoever lit the cyno made a bookmark at the center of the sun, warped to it, and lit the cyno before they got bounced. Its actually against the rules to intentionally move after you light a cyno so if you know who did it you can petition them if you care.
Citation required. Otherwise heresay. |
Daisai
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
100
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:42:00 -
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Imperishable wrote:Daisai wrote:Smart use of the in game mechanics, its bumping so its allowed.
It bypasses the intended purpose of having a cyno beacon that is visible to everyone. What's the point of warping to a beacon if nobody will be there and you can't even kill the ship that lit the cyno
The point is that you use the game mechanics to make sure you survive, just like you use the game mechanics to bump someone of a gate. I know its frustating for griefers if they cant kill a freighter because he used a game mechanic to beat you ( the attacker not you ). Its not a reason to call one thing an exploit but to call things that are helping you a normal game mechanic. |
Intar Medris
Combat BV Sovereign Infinity
104
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:57:00 -
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Istyn wrote:Imperishable wrote:I saw a guy pop a cyno at exact center of the sun. I warped there and got bumped out by the sun, yet I didn't see any ships there.
Does anyone know what's going on? This: http://forpeetsakes.com/speedtankfreighter.jpg
LMFAO I wanna do something like that.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
341
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Posted - 2013.07.03 22:36:00 -
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I have forwarded the question about the legality of lighting a cyno at the centre of a sun to CCP. I also pointed them to this thread.
Hope that helps.
Edit: And warping into a sun to get a large ship up to ludicrous speed gives quite a kick actually... ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
926
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Posted - 2013.07.03 22:49:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have forwarded the question about the legality of lighting a cyno at the centre of a sun to CCP. I also pointed them to this thread. Hope that helps. Edit: And warping into a sun to get a large ship up to ludicrous speed gives quite a kick actually...
A simple change to this mechanic might also lead to a far worst use of the new mechanic, I already see some from here and I'm sure you do too.
I'm not agreeing this is good as it is but it's a clever use of the mechanic not an exploit. Titans bumping ships out of the pos, and getting bump also on the process is a known mechanic use also.
The only issue we can see here is not how the players managed to use it for their profit but how in the mechanic it self couldn't predict this and prevent it from happening.
Here's some player created content with tools CCP have thrown at them and said FU. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1248
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Posted - 2013.07.03 22:54:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Sorry, but any reasonable person would consider this an exploit. Nice idea though, it's probably going to be used to death until they fix it.
There appears to be an organized effort on this forum that squashes creative thinking. So someone found a creative use for a game mechanic.....so what!
Try to be like this cyno guy and think outside your 1mm X 1mm box sometimes. The majority of this game is about discovery. HTFU!...for the children! |
Imperishable
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.03 23:00:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:Sorry, but any reasonable person would consider this an exploit. Nice idea though, it's probably going to be used to death until they fix it. There appears to be an organized effort on this forum that squashes creative thinking. So someone found a creative use for a game mechanic.....so what! Try to be like this cyno guy and think outside your 1mm X 1mm box sometimes. The majority of this game is about discovery. All game exploits could be justified as "creative thinking." How many exploits were fixed in the past? 100s of them. So unless you are willing to undo fixes for all the past exploits, it's not right to just dismiss this one.
Let CCP decide if this is a good thing for the game or not. If they say it's legit, fine, we'll all start using it |
Adunh Slavy
1083
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Posted - 2013.07.03 23:08:00 -
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Surprised this 'secret' stayed secret for so long. |
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Etteluor
Debitum Naturae WHY so Seri0Us
7
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Posted - 2013.07.03 23:15:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Etteluor wrote:Its actually against the rules to intentionally move after you light a cyno so if you know who did it you can petition them if you care. Quote on this?
My source is the fact that both my alt and my friends main account have been warned for lighting a cyno and then getting bumped into a pos field. I dont see the difference in this case. |
Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
311
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Posted - 2013.07.03 23:35:00 -
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Imperishable wrote:Daisai wrote:Smart use of the in game mechanics, its bumping so its allowed.
It bypasses the intended purpose of having a cyno beacon that is visible to everyone. What's the point of warping to a beacon if nobody will be there and you can't even kill the ship that lit the cyno
If you warp to 0 on a cyno you are doing it wrong.
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Imperishable
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.04 00:41:00 -
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Pewty McPew wrote:Imperishable wrote:Daisai wrote:Smart use of the in game mechanics, its bumping so its allowed.
It bypasses the intended purpose of having a cyno beacon that is visible to everyone. What's the point of warping to a beacon if nobody will be there and you can't even kill the ship that lit the cyno If you warp to 0 on a cyno you are doing it wrong. Just to clarify, warping at 100 to the sun center will still get you bumped at extreme speed. The sun is very big object |
Stonecrusher Mortlock
University of Caille Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2013.07.04 02:57:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Surprised this 'secret' stayed secret for so long.
it was a secret? i just though it was so time consuming that no one bothered to do it more then 1 time... |
Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
96
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Posted - 2013.07.04 03:02:00 -
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Imperishable wrote:I saw a guy pop a cyno at exact center of the sun. I warped there and got bumped out by the sun, yet I didn't see any ships there.
Does anyone know what's going on?
Nice work Mrs. Kravitz , now a nice thing will be nerfed. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2013.07.04 03:03:00 -
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Etteluor wrote:Whoever lit the cyno made a bookmark at the center of the sun, warped to it, and lit the cyno before they got bounced. Its actually against the rules to intentionally move after you light a cyno so if you know who did it you can petition them if you care.
They would still be vulnerable in this instance, they just have to be probed out.. The activity that I heard was not allowed is intentionally coasting into a pos shield after lighting a cyno. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2013.07.04 03:08:00 -
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Imperishable wrote: Just to clarify, warping at 100 to the sun center will still get you bumped at extreme speed. The sun is very big object
no because its impossible to warp to 100 of the sun center, you can only warp to a book mark near it, and if you warp to 100km from the bm then you would be 100km further from the point you get bumped at, depending on which direction you warp from of course =). I have a bookmark for Dodixie's sun if you want to play I'll sell it to you for 1 billion isk. The bookmark is 2km from bump point in a frigate, larger ships will be closer and get bumped warping to 0. It takes a good 15 minutes for an orca to stop after getting bumped, imagine what a freighter might do =). I can imagine the Rorqual mentioned in op took an hour to stop =).
Istyn wrote:Imperishable wrote:I saw a guy pop a cyno at exact center of the sun. I warped there and got bumped out by the sun, yet I didn't see any ships there.
Does anyone know what's going on? This: http://forpeetsakes.com/speedtankfreighter.jpg
No fair his Freighter is faster than my Domi. I think he was just faster at hitting print screen tough =). |
KracKstar
Nintendo Power Against ALL Authorities
105
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Posted - 2013.07.04 03:26:00 -
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if you want to know how to do it it is easy. one alighn yourself to a celestial that will make you travel thru the sun. two right when you are about to go into sun make a bm. do this over and over till you get one that wont bounce you out. simple tbh and been used for years. |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1251
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Posted - 2013.07.04 10:39:00 -
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Imperishable wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:Sorry, but any reasonable person would consider this an exploit. Nice idea though, it's probably going to be used to death until they fix it. There appears to be an organized effort on this forum that squashes creative thinking. So someone found a creative use for a game mechanic.....so what! Try to be like this cyno guy and think outside your 1mm X 1mm box sometimes. The majority of this game is about discovery. All game exploits could be justified as "creative thinking." How many exploits were fixed in the past? 100s of them. So unless you are willing to undo fixes for all the past exploits, it's not right to just dismiss this one. Let CCP decide if this is a good thing for the game or not. If they say it's legit, fine, we'll all start using it
There are exploits and then there are exploits.
This doesn't sound game breaking, complex, requiring a team of people to find/execute or that it would confer any overt advantage.
In fact, if used to some effect, most likely it would result in needless losses on a fleet that attempted to use it to whatever advantage. Lets see, set probes to .50 au, set on sun, know deceleration rates, maths, scan, warp to....kill things. At most it's usefulness is as a curiosity. Though, I could be missing something. Could be people are just PO'd they can't kill the guy lighting the cyno....but geez, once observed....the rouse is up. HTFU!...for the children! |
Jace Errata
Ghosts That Linger
440
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Posted - 2013.07.04 10:55:00 -
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You can get to the centre of the sun without warping - he might not have been bumped out after lighting the cyno (it's possible the OP didn't have time to spot his ship before being bumped himself). Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter
One day they woke me up so I could live forever It's such a shame the same will never happen to you |
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