|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 2 post(s) |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8432
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 03:08:00 -
[1] - Quote
If CCP wants bottom-up income to be dominant in nullsec, there must be an incentive for members of alliances to actually create that bottom-up income. Even the income from blitzing anomalies in ratting carriers or Vindicators pales in comparison to the income you can get from blitzing in a shiny incursion fleet with substantially less risk. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8432
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 08:30:00 -
[2] - Quote
Kyperion wrote:There is no thinking human who believes highsec pirates do it for profit... they do it because it is easy killmails and zero risk.
piracy is inherently done for profit, hope this helps Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8432
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 18:05:00 -
[3] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:Sov null PVE - basically risk free isk printing 500 mill per hour
lol any other lies? Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8432
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 18:09:00 -
[4] - Quote
Sharise Dragonstar wrote:It makes more sense to earn more isk in high sec than it does any other sec. You don't see the big banks and other businesses having there bases in 3rd world countries strife with civil wars and other issues. They base themselves in affluent cities where it is safer. High sec should reflect that. There is more ISK in low/null sec than high its just a bit harder to get which makes sense as you are running in systems either not policed or policed by players that will shoot you on sight. Exploration sites drop better gear and belt rats are worth more bounty than those in high. Mining is probably more profitable in high sec as is missioning (which is not really available in low-null). The only real difference between high and null is in high you mission and null you pvp.Mining is only unsafe if you mine in a place you not welcome in null sec but making freinds helps. I rotate about weekly with null and high...don't go low and I earn almost double the isk in null than I do in high and I am super paranoid about null that i even dock up when nuetrals enter the system.
"Guys listen to my bullshit real world comparisons, this is why a game which is not supposed to be realistic should be completely unbalanced"
Also I don't think the police respond in 30 seconds in even the safest cities Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8432
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 18:34:00 -
[5] - Quote
CanI haveyourstuff wrote:there's no god damn risk in null if you do it right.. so gtfo with your risk and reward crap. Thats coming from player who has been here since 2005.
again, any other lies? Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8440
|
Posted - 2013.07.21 03:18:00 -
[6] - Quote
Daniel Jackson wrote:yes im serious, null sec are like third world countrys while highsec are super powers and as a super power nation people naturaly make more money in them
yes and in those "superpower nations" you tend to be taxed heavily Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8441
|
Posted - 2013.07.22 07:41:00 -
[7] - Quote
Inokuma Yawara wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:right now there's a sansha incursion in lowsec, one in npc null and one in sov null
incursions outside highsec aren't done often because highsec incursion rewards are so good why bother?
when horrible forum posters talk about an incursion into nullsec they mean a bunch of highseccers teaming up to fly into sov null, which will be detrimental to null gameplay and topple the GOON SYSTEM because ??? Wait a minute. You're saying that Incursions do occur in null sec space? And it doesn't negatively affect the corp or alliance that hold sway in those systems? If that's the case, wouldn't that be like being handed a freebee? All the corps and allies can farm Sansha insurgents from the comfort of their own POS, and make bank..... So, where's the disadvantage? How is high sec incursions better? I guess I'm missing something here, cause I don't see the reason for complaint?
incursions happen in 0.0 but they're usually a nuisance that we clear as fast as possible rather than something we run to make some isk, and if you're dumb enough to throw shiny fleets into nullsec incursions that draw roaming gangs like flies whenever there is a tinge of blue in the progress bar, have fun
Inokuma Yawara wrote:That clears up part of it for me. I can see the problem, now. However, doesn't that mean that a Titan, and it''s attendant escort have just become available targets too?
Oh, wait! Your ships will have the wrong fit for PvP....
I think I see part of the problem, now.
EDIT:
It just means you'll have to have a very large operation with two or more fleets. One to do the incursion jobs, and the other fleets as overwatch, to protect against enemy corps and allies.
titans bridge from inside pos forcefields, so no, it's not a target
also nobody anywhere runs "overwatch" fleets because it's a waste of time, instead of having 20 pilots running the sites and another 20 pilots on standby in case there's trouble you're better off having those 40 dudes run incursions risk-free in highsec with their alts Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8441
|
Posted - 2013.07.22 15:36:00 -
[8] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dear baltec1, in-game friends of mine (in one of the larger alliances) tell me that they can safely rat etc in null as they have look-outs posted to watch for any unknown ships up to several jumps away.
Not so risky is it?
Cloaked ship in your system? No problem dock up, and hi-sec folk are risk averse!
Always remember, that for the newer players in particular, level 4 missions are really quite hard to do.
To put it bluntly, don't like the hi-sec playground, stay out of it.
No one forced you to go to null, that was your decision.
Live with the consequences.
Sure, but docking up when some neutral enters local means you have to relocate or continue your ratting later. In essence, you are out of commission while you relocate your PvE assets elsewhere - and for most ratters, that means moving the ships in a carrier because it's a lot ******* easier than scouting the route and using gates and jump bridges in a ship that will die to a stray falcon and sabre. Or, of course, you're out of commission until you can continue ratting without the threat of getting dropped by a blackops gang that you have zero chance of defending against.
In comparison, the only risk you face in highsec is a suicide gank. And that isn't going to happen when you're in the middle of a gang with a ton of DPS and logistics plus incursion rats. You could argue that you risk getting ganked while moving a shiny ship between incursion stagings, but that won't be a problem if you move your shiny gear with an alt. In a mission site, the ganker has to probe you out, scan your ship if they haven't already, and have a gankfleet in place to blow you up, considering that hotdrops also don't exist in the themepark area.
Also, if you think L4 missions are "hard", you clearly haven't done anything besides missions. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
|
|
|