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Soulita
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Posted - 2005.12.18 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kaaii
Skills > equipment
o_O Muha muhahah muhahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa 0_o
I have a years+ worth of skills in drones and drone carrier piloting related stuff. The skills are now worth crap.
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Soulita
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Posted - 2005.12.18 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: Soulita on 18/12/2005 00:39:44
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Soulita
Originally by: Kaaii
Skills > equipment
o_O Muha muhahah muhahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa 0_o
I have a years+ worth of skills in drones and drone carrier piloting related stuff. The skills are now worth crap.
Considering that the Domi has with this patch become probably the strongest close-range BS for 1v1, I call BS.
ROFL
Edit: I am through with arguing this topic, only thing left I can do is laugh my *** off at comments like this.
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Soulita
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: Soulita on 18/12/2005 02:23:50
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 18/12/2005 01:47:37
Originally by: Soulita
Originally by: Kaaii
Skills > equipment
o_O Muha muhahah muhahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa 0_o
I have a years+ worth of skills in drones and drone carrier piloting related stuff. The skills are now worth crap.
Then you wherent training drones skills. My maxed out drones skills made drones UBAR on drone ships ![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif)
Oh yea? Please explain to me in complete detail (Skills & exact dom setup - plz no shield tank setup since this would take me a lot of extra training, and tank must be able to sustain lvl4 mission damage) how you achieve this Uberness (going solo against BSs, cruisers and frigs). If ya cant i wont believe ya.
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Soulita
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Posted - 2005.12.18 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Azuriel Talloth So is this like missile nerf whines version 2.0?
Yea it is, only worse cause drones werent overpowered so didnt deserve a nerf.
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Soulita
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Posted - 2005.12.18 08:43:00 -
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Edited by: Soulita on 18/12/2005 08:44:13
Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Soulita Edited by: Soulita on 18/12/2005 00:39:44
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Soulita
Originally by: Kaaii
Skills > equipment
o_O Muha muhahah muhahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa 0_o
I have a years+ worth of skills in drones and drone carrier piloting related stuff. The skills are now worth crap.
Considering that the Domi has with this patch become probably the strongest close-range BS for 1v1, I call BS.
ROFL
Edit: I am through with arguing this topic, only thing left I can do is laugh my *** off at comments like this.
Fair enough, as the only thing the rest of us can do is laugh at what an ass you've just made of yourself. I would suggest using eve-search to find the 50 or so page thread that spells it all out for you in minute detail... then come back here and someone will explain it to you. ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
You are very funny. Is that you in the picture of your sig?
If you, my friend, would have read the very thread you are referring too, you would also have read my posts there. Basically you are telling me to read a thread which I not only read but also posted in, obviously without having read it yourself. Now how does that make you look??
I guess some people like the new drones, for me they in effect are a nerf.
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Soulita
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Posted - 2005.12.18 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: Soulita on 18/12/2005 09:54:51
Originally by: dantes inferno
Quote: for me asa drone carrier pilot they in effect are a nerf.
how exactly are they a nerf? list your reasons for stating that the changed are a nerf? or is this just a whine without you actuyalyu testing or trainng any new skills
Since you asked:
a) tracking of heavy drones has been nerfed - they cant kill frigs anymore (taken the frigs are neither painted nor webbed). Now in order to kill frigs lites have to be used. The new lites not only kill frigs slower then the old heavies used to, but if drones are used as primary weapons this also means the type of drones has to be changed in fight when fighting various sizes of ships. This is very problematic since it often takes ages to scoop drones (depending on behaviour of drones can be minutes), meaning during this time a drone carrier pilot cant use his/her primary weapon.
b) using a lower number of drones means each drone destroyed causes a sharper drop in drone damage output. (In case of dom it was 1/15th before and now is 1/5th (durability increase doesnt help because once targeted by tons of npcs the drones die very fast, even with increased durability))
c) drone carrier users cant use the new types of drones since they depend on all 5 combat drones as primary weapon. (this part of the drone changes only effects drone carrier users negatively)
d) the amount of spare drones is reduced in absolute numbers(especially if you have to carry various sizes of drones to be able to counter frigs/cruisers and BSs).
And you can read my opinion on some of the new skills here.
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Soulita
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Posted - 2005.12.18 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: Soulita on 18/12/2005 11:07:07
Thanks to the above posters for confirming the drone changes are in fact a nerf.
Maybe I should mention CCP didnt intend to nerf drones, and Tuxford actually stated they were in balance before the changes.
Enough said.
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Soulita
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Posted - 2005.12.18 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: dantes inferno reading this list its all petty things or things you obviously havent tested out properly..
ROFL - things are starting to get funny again.
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Soulita
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Posted - 2005.12.20 04:00:00 -
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Edited by: Soulita on 20/12/2005 04:27:48 Edited by: Soulita on 20/12/2005 04:16:14
Originally by: dantes inferno
Quote: ROFL - things are starting to get funny again.
how so?...clarification...
Well Dantes Inferno, since you realy want me to answer: Originally by: dantes inferno
Quote: tracking of heavy drones has been nerfed - they cant kill frigs anymore (taken the frigs are neither painted nor webbed). Now in order to kill frigs lites have to be used. The new lites not only kill frigs slower then the old heavies used to, but if drones are used as primary weapons this also means the type of drones has to be changed in fight when fighting various sizes of ships. This is very problematic since it often takes ages to scoop drones (depending on behaviour of drones can be minutes), meaning during this time a drone carrier pilot cant use his/her primary weapon.
...um wrong heavys kill frigs perfectly fine (actualy better that pre rmr)...
This is simply untrue. (I am not talking about clumsy 6k frigs, but fast 30k ones) Please check other posts on that matter.
Originally by: dantes inferno
Quote: b) using a lower number of drones (with higher damage each) means each drone destroyed causes a sharper drop in drone damage output. (In case of dom it was 1/15th before and now is 1/5th (durability increase doesnt help because once targeted by tons of npcs the drones die very fast, even with increased durability))
and? here a hint..wait for the npc to target you..then drop your drones..i can go weeks of chainign/missions and not loose a single drone..why cant you?
I ll let a dev explain that to you:
Originally by: Zrakor
Originally by: Martinus Crimson Serpentis Extravaganza... The whole spawn agrro'd without any apparent reason ...
...were you using a ton of drones who might have flown through the aggro radius of other npc groups than you were fighting?
No further explanation needed I think.
Originally by: dantes inferno
Quote: c) drone carrier users cant use the new types of drones since they depend on all 5 combat drones as primary weapon when going solo. (this part of the drone changes only effects drone carrier users negatively)
the new types of drones are an addition..you hve lasted this long without them..so why complain that ur drone ship cant use them now? the choice is urs..use dmg drones or the new ones..u cant have everything you know..its similar to the tank/dmg choices that every ship has to make.
With the difference that any other ships have main weapons in the high slots and not in the drone bay. So any non Drone carrier ship with a drone bay can use the new drones without sacrificing their main weapons.
Originally by: dantes inferno
Quote: d) the amount of spare drones is reduced in absolute numbers(especially if you have to carry various sizes of drones to be able to counter frigs/cruisers and BSs)
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now lets take my mega into acount i used to carry 10 heavys and use 8..i now carry 5 heavys and use 5..so assuming if i had DI5 i wouldnt realy of lost anything. some ships probaly have lost a bit of extra drones but this is an unaovidable side affect which really considering how bad a lot of other people have been hit by nerfs you should count your blessings.
Interesting. I thought you said it was not a nerf ? Now you say it is in that point (I find this point to be the weakest of the 4 btw).
Oh and you said you have the impression I am not testing anything? What do you think I do in the dom? Could it be I use drones all the time??
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