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KingKongBon
King's Mining
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:06:00 -
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Getting rid of local would add the missing stuff this game needs :)
Not knowing who is in there with you makes the game a lot more fun :)) |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
142
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:12:00 -
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KingKongBon wrote:Getting rid of local would add the missing stuff this game needs :)
Not knowing who is in there with you makes the game a lot more fun :))
Another thread about removing local. |
KingKongBon
King's Mining
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:13:00 -
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because it needs to be done. will be constantly reminding CCP about removing it until they do... |
Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
884
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:22:00 -
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K162. Press Jump. |
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
124
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:27:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:K162. Press Jump.
I ended up back in highsec? 
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Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
155
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:32:00 -
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KingKongBon wrote:Getting rid of local would add the missing stuff this game needs :)
Not knowing who is in there with you makes the game a lot more fun :))
If you really don't want local on your chat, then you can simply close it. There! Problem solved, for you. You won't have a clue who's in local with you.
Watch this space.-á New exciting signature in development. |
KingKongBon
King's Mining
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:35:00 -
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removing local would drastically improve pvp... it would make it more fun :)
then again, all the carebears would not be able to rat :) |
KingKongBon
King's Mining
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:39:00 -
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1st you would always have to work in groups in order to achieve a goal. Ratting would not be as safe as it is now.
2nd probing would be much more interesting now knowing what you will pick up in a system on scan and what kind of opposition awaits you "on the other side" of the scan.
3rd 0.0 alliances would not feel that safe any more and they would actually have to put in a lot of work and time to keep their systems safe :)
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Regan Rotineque
Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd.
Mildly Sober
157
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:41:00 -
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Came expecting bad thread... Left satisfied.......
If you want no local...there are already in game mechanics for you.
Wormholes
Close local
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Shirakus
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Fatal Ascension
10
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:51:00 -
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KingKongBon wrote:Getting rid of local would add the missing stuff this game needs :)
Not knowing who is in there with you makes the game a lot more fun :))
If you don't want local, feel free to close it or go into a wormhole. |
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Chic Botany
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:55:00 -
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KingKongBon wrote:Getting rid of local would add the missing stuff this game needs :)
Not knowing who is in there with you makes the game a lot more fun :))
hmm, define fun.
If they removed local then I dare say it would be the end of eve.
The majority of carebears in highsec would leave.
The majority of nullbears in null will leave.
PvP would stop (you can't hunt and find something you don't know is there)
So good luck on CCP still running the game with a fraction of it's subscriber base. This topic has been brought up so many times in the past and if CCP were interested in doing it then they would have done it by now.
You want local to go then go live in a wormhole, you want to resurrect an old warn out topic, you can also pick AFK Cloakers, Boost Nullsec, Nerf Highsec. |
Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1585
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:55:00 -
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KingKongBon wrote:1st you would always have to work in groups in order to achieve a goal. Ratting would not be as safe as it is now.
Everyone leaves nullsec.
Quote:2nd probing would be much more interesting now knowing what you will pick up in a system on scan and what kind of opposition awaits you "on the other side" of the scan.
Every player is forced to fit combat probes or to group up with someone with combat probes before they can even undock.
Quote:3rd 0.0 alliances would not feel that safe any more and they would actually have to put in a lot of work and time to keep their systems safe :)
Everyone leaves nullsec.
I'm fine with getting rid of local, but players in nullsec still need access to the intel it provides. The majority of players in nullsec are carebears and only live there because of the PvE content. If you take away local, they're just going to move back to highsec.
Oh god. |
KingKongBon
King's Mining
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Posted - 2013.08.26 06:00:00 -
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Lol, you always hear the alliance members complain :)
True. the parties that would experience massive isk loss are sov holders, macrofarmers and miners, but then again, it would make you work for your isk. PVP would be awesome in all aspects. Simply ******* awesome!
Never knowing what to expect is fundamental for this type of game.
Now as soon as you see a local spike, you know the numbers, the people ergo you can assume ship types and thats that... Fleet fight is over before even a single shot has been fired. :) No more goons, no more bob, no more massive powerblocks....
Every ship would have a value in combat. The Arazu for example is a useless ship nowdays. Same goes for a few more recon vessels.
Without local, every ship would play its part. Scouts would no longer be pods that jump in to count the numbers in local chat, but rather recon vessels or bombers that do the real probing to sum up the opposition. Frontlining capitals would not be an everyday event where you would lose a cap, make enough isk in a week for 2 more and go fight again. No more massive fights where its "me vs the loading screen" pvp.
It would simply define the pvp as its meant to be, not as the carebears would like it to be. |
baltec1
Bat Country
7696
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Posted - 2013.08.26 06:07:00 -
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Well, at least we would't be getting any more AFK cloaker threads. |
Taiwanistan
315
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Posted - 2013.08.26 06:21:00 -
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wow what an illuminating idea :)
gtfo and use search :))
TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
1165
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Posted - 2013.08.26 06:27:00 -
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Thread about local #45684353513413678-¦ by another one unable to find a WH, further unable to do what it takes to stay there and comes to forums cry his inability to understand the game, and of course it's local fault.
Came expecting uninteresting thread to increase my posting, leaving satisfied.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Tinker Vuld
New Order Logistics
CODE.
37
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Posted - 2013.08.26 07:02:00 -
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This could really screw with the miners, how could they share their tears with everyone after they are removed from their non-permitted barges if there is no local?
www.minerbumping.com - study it, live it, breathe it, for The Code shall set you free. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2166
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Posted - 2013.08.26 07:09:00 -
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KingKongBon wrote:True. the parties that would experience massive isk loss are sov holders, macrofarmers and miners, but then again, it would make you workget a highsec missioning alt for your isk. PVP would be awesomenon-existent in all aspects. Simply ******* awesome!
Just clearing up a couple of typos for you.
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Miles Parabellum
Zealots of Bob
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Posted - 2013.08.26 07:14:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Quote:3rd 0.0 alliances would not feel that safe any more and they would actually have to put in a lot of work and time to keep their systems safe :) Everyone leaves nullsec.
Correction, all the null bears will leave null sec. Wormholers who are already used to the concept of risk vs reward will take over. |
Seth Darkness
Friends of Honor
C0VEN
3
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Posted - 2013.08.26 07:24:00 -
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Known space uses some sort of logging in system. So when you jump through a stargate you are being registered into that system.
One mechanic you could add is either choose to log out of that system and lock out local for both you and other people in system.
Or add some sort of module that removes you from local.
This module would either use a lot of cap or only last like 15 sec. The advantage that would enable you to scan somebody in the system and warp to him. |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
5735
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Posted - 2013.08.26 07:31:00 -
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KingKongBon wrote:removing local would drastically improve pvp... it would make it more fun :)
then again, all the carebears would not be able to rat :)
So they wouldn't rat, and there'd be less for you to PVP.
Furthermore your average player would have much less isk to spend on ships in nullsec and so you'd have less people who are willing to fight back.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
310
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Posted - 2013.08.26 07:39:00 -
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Negate Local - train an afk cloaker, log him in when you go to sleep work whatever. MInes in YV-FDG. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate
S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1857
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Posted - 2013.08.26 12:59:00 -
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OP's bringing up an insight I've always supported. Shame we're stuck with such crappy insta-intel mechanics for now.
Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Cyber SGB
Bionetic Creations
25
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Posted - 2013.08.26 13:46:00 -
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Chic Botany wrote:KingKongBon wrote:Getting rid of local would add the missing stuff this game needs :)
Not knowing who is in there with you makes the game a lot more fun :)) hmm, define fun. If they removed local then I dare say it would be the end of eve. The majority of carebears in highsec would leave. The majority of nullbears in null will leave. PvP would stop (you can't hunt and find something you don't know is there) So good luck on CCP still running the game with a fraction of it's subscriber base. This topic has been brought up so many times in the past and if CCP were interested in doing it then they would have done it by now. You want local to go then go live in a wormhole, you want to resurrect an old warn out topic, you can also pick AFK Cloakers, Boost Nullsec, Nerf Highsec.
It would not be the end of EvE. 
No, highsec people would not leave. Local does nothing for highsec, except provide a place to chat. Unless you are in a highsec war, then that intel would be gone, but that's ok. It would be more fun then.
You may be right about the nullbears, but I think most would stay.
Yes, you can hunt and find something you do not know is there.
   wow these things are fun 
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http://amazon.com/author/sgbynum |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
359
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Posted - 2013.08.26 13:53:00 -
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KingKongBon wrote:Getting rid of local would add the missing stuff this game needs :)
Not knowing who is in there with you makes the game a lot more fun :))
Good lord.
Not this again...
At least thread #19 on the subject. Probably a lot more that were missed along the way... |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2013.08.26 14:02:00 -
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Miles Parabellum wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Quote:3rd 0.0 alliances would not feel that safe any more and they would actually have to put in a lot of work and time to keep their systems safe :) Everyone leaves nullsec. Correction, all the null bears will leave null sec. Wormholers who are already used to the concept of risk vs reward will take over.
So why would they move to an area of space with more risk for less reward, then? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
40286
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Posted - 2013.08.26 14:02:00 -
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KingKongBon wrote:because it needs to be done. will be constantly reminding CCP about removing it until they do...
......and they will eventually ban for thread duplication. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate
S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1858
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Posted - 2013.08.26 14:43:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:KingKongBon wrote:because it needs to be done. will be constantly reminding CCP about removing it until they do... ......and they will eventually ban for thread duplication.
...which is a shame, because this is quite a pressing issue.
Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
733
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Posted - 2013.08.26 14:57:00 -
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KingKongBon wrote:1st you would always have to work in groups in order to achieve a goal. Ratting would not be as safe as it is now.
2nd probing would be much more interesting now knowing what you will pick up in a system on scan and what kind of opposition awaits you "on the other side" of the scan.
3rd 0.0 alliances would not feel that safe any more and they would actually have to put in a lot of work and time to keep their systems safe :)
http://adhocracy.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=19213191
Ratting isn't safe.
Probing is fun now.
0.0 isn't safe. Even with local.
Because Wormholes...
Chic Botany wrote:
PvP would stop (you can't hunt and find something you don't know is there)
You are *wrong* about this.
Completely.
See above. Check out any WH alliances killboard.
Plenty of people know how to hunt w/o local.
Rethink what you said.
All blessing from Bob (including no local).
Bob is the god of Wormholes.
That's all you need to know. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
237
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Posted - 2013.08.26 15:00:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:KingKongBon wrote:Getting rid of local would add the missing stuff this game needs :)
Not knowing who is in there with you makes the game a lot more fun :)) Another thread about removing local.
It's like it's long overdue or something.
Remove local. |
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