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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1727
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Posted - 2013.09.19 20:12:00 -
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Marnian Veroe wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Ailer Stane wrote:I would humbly suggest that any involvement by another Federal entity, registered or not, be undertaken after the FIO has issued its report. Then said involvement be reviewed, in minimum, by the District Parliament should permission from the "elected" planetary government be granted. Too late. Didn't you read? The Elusenians have 'boots on the ground' already. Elusenian boots are not welcome on our soil.
Interesting. Time for Civil Disobedience? Or more strenuous objections? |
Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
1304
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Posted - 2013.09.19 21:42:00 -
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I had a more detailed answer that took quite some time to write but Galnet wasn't very nice to me. I'm a busy man and regret to inform you that I can't rewrite it., as much as I would like to. But pretty much everything wrong with what you're saying can be proven here.
Jake Favre wrote: You try to imply that sociocrats control the Black Eagles through Blaque, and yet you fail to notice that Blaque answers to the president.
Blaque controls the Black Eagles and the Sociocrats, which means he can use the Black Eagles to promote his political interest. Which he is certainly doing.
And you are correct, Blaque answers to the President, our Ultra-Nationalist President. Starting to click now? Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Jake Favre
Mantenault Social Union
3
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Posted - 2013.09.19 21:45:00 -
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Ohhh right !
I am sorry. I forgot my tinfoil hat. |
Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
1304
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Posted - 2013.09.19 22:15:00 -
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Jake Favre wrote:Ohhh right !
I am sorry. I forgot my tinfoil hat.
Don't you think that would be too cumbersome? You're already wearing a slave collar, blinders, a muzzle, and ear plugs. Adding a tinfoil hat on top of all of that would just be silly!
Another five years of Sociocrat and U-Nat nonsense and we'll be living in the Roden Federation, with Roden Shipyards making all space faring vessels, RodenDron providing our drones, Roden Labs building your blasters, and of course, all the Quafe girls having shaved heads in honor of their F++hrer.
But of course, you're going to completely ignore what's already blatantly obvious and blame Foiritan in typical Sociocrat fashion. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Ailer Stane
Reclamation Technologies
10
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:03:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:Earlier today, the Elusenian Agora approved the Directorate's proposal to send electoral administrators to Mantenault VI for the purposes of independently facilitating a re-run of the referendum that took place a week ago. The ESS Rosmerta, a Viator-class transport captained by myself, was sent by the Cooperative Republic of Elusenia, ferrying an undisclosed number of administrators from relevant Sub-Directorates, as well as a security attache.
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Ailer Stane wrote:I would humbly suggest that any involvement by another Federal entity, registered or not, be undertaken after the FIO has issued its report. Then said involvement be reviewed, in minimum, by the District Parliament should permission from the "elected" planetary government be granted. Too late. Didn't you read? The Elusenians have 'boots on the ground' already. Thank you Mr. Tuulinen for directing my attention.
On what or by whose authority are the Elusenians acting? As I understand it they are little more than an unrecognized corporate entity playing at statehood. Their involvement is an outrage to planetary self determination and I encourage that any electoral result garnered through their interference be ignored as illegitimate.
I have forwarded a complaint to the Federal Administration's Electoral Commission. I hope they respond with vigor. |
Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
33
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:30:00 -
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Ailer Stane wrote:Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:Earlier today, the Elusenian Agora approved the Directorate's proposal to send electoral administrators to Mantenault VI for the purposes of independently facilitating a re-run of the referendum that took place a week ago. The ESS Rosmerta, a Viator-class transport captained by myself, was sent by the Cooperative Republic of Elusenia, ferrying an undisclosed number of administrators from relevant Sub-Directorates, as well as a security attache. Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Ailer Stane wrote:I would humbly suggest that any involvement by another Federal entity, registered or not, be undertaken after the FIO has issued its report. Then said involvement be reviewed, in minimum, by the District Parliament should permission from the "elected" planetary government be granted. Too late. Didn't you read? The Elusenians have 'boots on the ground' already. Thank you Mr. Tuulinen for directing my attention. On what or by whose authority are the Elusenians acting? As I understand it they are little more than an unrecognized corporate entity playing at statehood. Their involvement is an outrage to planetary self determination and I encourage that any electoral result garnered through their interference be ignored as illegitimate. I have forwarded a complaint to the Federal Administration's Electoral Commission. I hope they respond with vigor.
M. Stane, the Elusenians are on Mantenault with the blessing of the majority of parties in the NAG, and are otherwise there with the legitimacy that those larger institutions endow as representatives of general political opinion where usual circumstances to gauge such popularity has been disabled.
This planet has 'self-determined' to use the assistance of the Elusenians in getting their government back on track. Please cease your attempts to further destabilize this colony. |
Ailer Stane
Reclamation Technologies
10
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:55:00 -
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Laurentis Thiesant wrote:Ailer Stane wrote:Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:Earlier today, the Elusenian Agora approved the Directorate's proposal to send electoral administrators to Mantenault VI for the purposes of independently facilitating a re-run of the referendum that took place a week ago. The ESS Rosmerta, a Viator-class transport captained by myself, was sent by the Cooperative Republic of Elusenia, ferrying an undisclosed number of administrators from relevant Sub-Directorates, as well as a security attache. Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Ailer Stane wrote:I would humbly suggest that any involvement by another Federal entity, registered or not, be undertaken after the FIO has issued its report. Then said involvement be reviewed, in minimum, by the District Parliament should permission from the "elected" planetary government be granted. Too late. Didn't you read? The Elusenians have 'boots on the ground' already. Thank you Mr. Tuulinen for directing my attention. On what or by whose authority are the Elusenians acting? As I understand it they are little more than an unrecognized corporate entity playing at statehood. Their involvement is an outrage to planetary self determination and I encourage that any electoral result garnered through their interference be ignored as illegitimate. I have forwarded a complaint to the Federal Administration's Electoral Commission. I hope they respond with vigor. M. Stane, the Elusenians are on Mantenault with the blessing of the majority of parties in the NAG, and are otherwise there with the legitimacy that those larger institutions endow as representatives of general political opinion where usual circumstances to gauge such popularity has been disabled. This planet has 'self-determined' to use the assistance of the Elusenians in getting their government back on track. Please cease your attempts to further destabilize this colony. Many words, little meaning. I congratulate you on your mastery of the language of politics. Honest people will be watching. |
Constantin Baracca
96
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:42:00 -
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Laurentis Thiesant wrote:Ailer Stane wrote:Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:Earlier today, the Elusenian Agora approved the Directorate's proposal to send electoral administrators to Mantenault VI for the purposes of independently facilitating a re-run of the referendum that took place a week ago. The ESS Rosmerta, a Viator-class transport captained by myself, was sent by the Cooperative Republic of Elusenia, ferrying an undisclosed number of administrators from relevant Sub-Directorates, as well as a security attache. Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Ailer Stane wrote:I would humbly suggest that any involvement by another Federal entity, registered or not, be undertaken after the FIO has issued its report. Then said involvement be reviewed, in minimum, by the District Parliament should permission from the "elected" planetary government be granted. Too late. Didn't you read? The Elusenians have 'boots on the ground' already. Thank you Mr. Tuulinen for directing my attention. On what or by whose authority are the Elusenians acting? As I understand it they are little more than an unrecognized corporate entity playing at statehood. Their involvement is an outrage to planetary self determination and I encourage that any electoral result garnered through their interference be ignored as illegitimate. I have forwarded a complaint to the Federal Administration's Electoral Commission. I hope they respond with vigor. M. Stane, the Elusenians are on Mantenault with the blessing of the majority of parties in the NAG, and are otherwise there with the legitimacy that those larger institutions endow as representatives of general political opinion where usual circumstances to gauge such popularity has been disabled. This planet has 'self-determined' to use the assistance of the Elusenians in getting their government back on track. Please cease your attempts to further destabilize this colony.
Out of curiosity, the majority of the parties? Or the parties the majority of the people voted in favor of? "What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
835
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:06:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Blaque controls the Black Eagles and the Sociocrats, which means he can use the Black Eagles to promote his political interest. Which he is certainly doing.
And you are correct, Blaque answers to the President, our Ultra-Nationalist President. Starting to click now?
An ultra-nationalist leader who uses a paramilitary group they have total control over against their own citizens?
Did you steal that idea from the Caldari or did they steal it from you? Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1730
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:07:00 -
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Perhaps we learned it from our allies, Makkal? |
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Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
1308
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Posted - 2013.09.20 11:01:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:Blaque controls the Black Eagles and the Sociocrats, which means he can use the Black Eagles to promote his political interest. Which he is certainly doing.
And you are correct, Blaque answers to the President, our Ultra-Nationalist President. Starting to click now? An ultra-nationalist leader who uses a paramilitary group they have total control over against their own citizens? Did you steal that idea from the Caldari or did they steal it from you?
Well it's been a while since we were a dystopian society completely controlled by our government yet too decadant and hedonistic to care. I suppose Heth's rise to power made us want to try it out again.
To be fair to Roden, things have been going pretty well so far. I just worry about the long term implications of his policies. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
544
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Posted - 2013.09.20 12:14:00 -
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Mentas Blaque resigned from the Senate three years ago. While one can presume he still has ties to the Sociocrats, he no longer has any official control. |
Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
1308
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Posted - 2013.09.20 13:16:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:Mentas Blaque resigned from the Senate three years ago. While one can presume he still has ties to the Sociocrats, he no longer has any official control.
His resignation is irrelevant, he was still the Sociocrat presidential canidate and it looks like he will be for the next election. Presidential candidates are naturally, the defacto leader of their party. If I'm correct the Federal constitution states that the President actually is the leader of their party. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Marnian Veroe
Mantenault National Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2013.09.20 21:06:00 -
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Laurentis Thiesant wrote: M. Stane, the Elusenians are on Mantenault with the blessing of the majority of parties in the NAG, and are otherwise there with the legitimacy that those larger institutions endow as representatives of general political opinion where usual circumstances to gauge such popularity has been disabled.
This planet has 'self-determined' to use the assistance of the Elusenians in getting their government back on track. Please cease your attempts to further destabilize this colony.
That is truly astounding. On one hand you progressives withdraw from the NAG and stop recognizing its legitimacy, and on the other hand you still lean heavily on the same NAG to point at the legitimacy of the Elusenian presence. Could you be consistent for once ?
Yes indeed, democracy, but only when it suits you. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1732
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Posted - 2013.09.20 21:46:00 -
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I, for one, have found this entire topic a real eye-opener. I'd like to thank you all for being so transparent regarding the true functioning of a representative democracy.
Also interesting that the Elusenians' first act in the wider cluster has been deploying to a contested system in the warzone as 'peacekeepers' with contentious support from the local population - something they might have accused US of doing!
Only violent demonstrations could possibly have made this object lesson more complete. |
Constantin Baracca
102
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:19:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:I, for one, have found this entire topic a real eye-opener. I'd like to thank you all for being so transparent regarding the true functioning of a representative democracy.
Also interesting that the Elusenians' first act in the wider cluster has been deploying to a contested system in the warzone as 'peacekeepers' with contentious support from the local population - something they might have accused US of doing!
Only violent demonstrations could possibly have made this object lesson more complete.
My father likes to say that governments, even democracies, are just the faces that nations plaster on the front of their guns. I have a feeling that if we all had a completely free press that readily jumped through our spaces, we would find out that we share almost all of the problems we have. It would probably be harder to think of each other as monsters.
Until then, the only way to arrive at that state of being is to travel and see those places for yourself. "What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1733
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:58:00 -
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Thanks for the platitude. I do plenty of travelling, thank you. |
Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
33
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Posted - 2013.09.21 07:17:00 -
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Voting has commenced on Mantenault and will continue until 1400 hrs tonight. |
Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
77
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Posted - 2013.09.21 07:45:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:I had a more detailed answer that took quite some time to write but Galnet wasn't very nice to me. I'm a busy man and regret to inform you that I can't rewrite it, as much as I would like to. But pretty much everything wrong with what you're saying can summed up here. Jake Favre wrote: You try to imply that sociocrats control the Black Eagles through Blaque, and yet you fail to notice that Blaque answers to the president.
Blaque controls the Black Eagles and the Sociocrats, which means he can use the Black Eagles to promote his political interest. Which he is certainly doing. And you are correct, Blaque answers to the President, our Ultra-Nationalist President. Starting to click now?
I might well have missed the press release. Could you point me to where Roden has formally declared his support and/or membership of the Ultra-Nationalist party?
Fredfredbug4 wrote:If I'm correct the Federal constitution states that the President actually is the leader of their party.
Again, I've been unable to find any documentation to support this statement as fact.
It would be interesting, however, if both of those assertions were found to be true as it would suggest that Roden - an extremely powerful political figure whose "big personality" style of presidency has continued to develop on and push forward the socially-orientated, progressive policies of his predecessor - is actually the leader of the U-Nats, a party who in modern times is one of the least influential and under-represented political groups within the Federation. O. Rundle The Synenose Accord Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
545
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Posted - 2013.09.21 09:59:00 -
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ATTENTION, CITIZENS!
Since 16 Sep YC 115 control over Mantenault belongs to the State. Democratic elections has no more power on the planet, and proper meritocratic leadership should be set up already. This farce with voting has to stop. Otherwise, it will be treated as a civil unrest and a threat to peace and prosperity of both the planet and the State.
If this threat will persist, culprits and self-proclaimed democratic leadership will be removed from the face of the planet with precise orbital bombardment strikes.
Only the merited must rule. |
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Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
33
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Posted - 2013.09.21 10:17:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote: ATTENTION, CITIZENS!
Since 16 Sep YC 115 control over Mantenault belongs to the State. Democratic elections has no more power on the planet, and proper meritocratic leadership should be set up already. This farce with voting has to stop. Otherwise, it will be treated as a civil unrest and a threat to peace and prosperity of both the planet and the State.
If this threat will persist, culprits and self-proclaimed democratic leadership will be removed from the face of the planet with precise orbital bombardment strikes.
Only the merited must rule.
The Caldari State has no sovereign jurisdiction over Federation worlds. I remain confident that the Federal Defense Union and other Federate forces will respond appropriately to any and all assaults on our property.
Regardless, Diana Kim has no authority to pursue military action against persons not signatories to the capsuleer militia conflict. Any action taken must thereby be considered terrorist in nature and should be disregarded by any legitimate authority at an empire, planetary, or individual level.
I ask anyone considering assisting Diana Kim in pirate activity to reconsider immediately and allow the rule of law to continue its natural processes on Mantenault VI. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
545
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:06:00 -
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Laurentis Thiesant wrote:Diana Kim wrote: ATTENTION, CITIZENS!
Since 16 Sep YC 115 control over Mantenault belongs to the State. Democratic elections has no more power on the planet, and proper meritocratic leadership should be set up already. This farce with voting has to stop. Otherwise, it will be treated as a civil unrest and a threat to peace and prosperity of both the planet and the State.
If this threat will persist, culprits and self-proclaimed democratic leadership will be removed from the face of the planet with precise orbital bombardment strikes.
Only the merited must rule.
The Caldari State has no sovereign jurisdiction over Federation worlds. I remain confident that the Federal Defense Union and other Federate forces will respond appropriately to any and all assaults on our property. Regardless, Diana Kim has no authority to pursue military action against persons not signatories to the capsuleer militia conflict. Any action taken must thereby be considered terrorist in nature and should be disregarded by any legitimate authority at an empire, planetary, or individual level. I ask anyone considering assisting Diana Kim in pirate activity to reconsider immediately and allow the rule of law to continue its natural processes on Mantenault VI. Watch what are you writing, gallentean. It is in fact my duty to protect natural processes, rule of law and proper meritocratic leadership on the Mantenault VI. With given power to use orbital bombardment against military targets, I can destroy democratic terrorists, that present obvious threat to citizens and lawful leadership, bestowed by the State on Mantenault VI.
Democracy is obsolete and inefficient management type, where leaders are chosen not by their merits, but rather on how well they make the show to the public. While this territory is controlled by the State, it is our duty to protect citizens from such deviancy. |
Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
33
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:21:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Laurentis Thiesant wrote:Diana Kim wrote: ATTENTION, CITIZENS!
Since 16 Sep YC 115 control over Mantenault belongs to the State. Democratic elections has no more power on the planet, and proper meritocratic leadership should be set up already. This farce with voting has to stop. Otherwise, it will be treated as a civil unrest and a threat to peace and prosperity of both the planet and the State.
If this threat will persist, culprits and self-proclaimed democratic leadership will be removed from the face of the planet with precise orbital bombardment strikes.
Only the merited must rule.
The Caldari State has no sovereign jurisdiction over Federation worlds. I remain confident that the Federal Defense Union and other Federate forces will respond appropriately to any and all assaults on our property. Regardless, Diana Kim has no authority to pursue military action against persons not signatories to the capsuleer militia conflict. Any action taken must thereby be considered terrorist in nature and should be disregarded by any legitimate authority at an empire, planetary, or individual level. I ask anyone considering assisting Diana Kim in pirate activity to reconsider immediately and allow the rule of law to continue its natural processes on Mantenault VI. Watch what are you writing, gallentean. It is in fact my duty to protect natural processes, rule of law and proper meritocratic leadership on the Mantenault VI. With given power to use orbital bombardment against military targets, I can destroy democratic terrorists, that present obvious threat to citizens and lawful leadership, bestowed by the State on Mantenault VI. Democracy is obsolete and inefficient management type, where leaders are chosen not by their merits, but rather on how well they make the show to the public. While this territory is controlled by the State, it is our duty to protect citizens from such deviancy.
The people of Mantenault are currently in the process of deciding upon their model of government. The result of this will be known later in the evening. The Institute of Social Development will be happy to share the results of this with all capsuleers who wish to be informed.
What is clear, however, is that a Caldari ruled system is not an option on the ballot, nor is it an option in the hearts and minds of the people of Mantenault.
We have plenty government of our own thank-you. We do not appreciate, nor want, yours.
You will be informed of further developments. |
Marnian Veroe
Mantenault National Syndicate
4
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Posted - 2013.09.21 12:22:00 -
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This is exactly what we feared when the other parties decided to make secession with the government. Thanks to progressive core worlds white collars that probably never even set foot on low security colonies, and perhaps even less in the war zone, Mantenault is now back to the reality of the war and we face once again the reason why the NAG existed in the first place.
In any case, we are confident in the abilities of the FDU to turn the tide eventually, but this will obviously never settle the problem once and for all as long as Mantenault remains in the proxy war area.
People can continue to vote this masquerade, but true loyalists will make sure to repel the dogs that dare spoil our soil and our homes. |
Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
33
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:00:00 -
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That's it, ladies, gentlemen and those otherwise defined! The polls have closed on Mantenault and now the counting can begin.
You can follow updates of the count here, or visit our referendum night party live at 'The Golden Masque' which starts now.
The Institute of Social Development recommends attendance! |
Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
33
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:19:00 -
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Valentina Nerialt is a third generation citizen of the Mantenault colony and one of the millions of Gallenteans going back to the polls today in what will be the second vote on the continued existence of the planet's National Administrative Government.
"It's been tough for all of us here. The past days have seemed to turn everyone on Mantenault into a political lecturer. So many opinions, so many debates. It's become the latest trend to be up to date with cluster politics." the colonial mother and spouse explained to an Institute of Social Development observer.
"I just don't know if I can decide to back what has essentially become the 'fad of the moment'. I have my family to think of, my wife and our child, and I don't think that their safety can be assured by a direct democratic model which has already caused our society so much trouble recently"
"The NAG ain't perfect, but it has done right by us. I'm just an ordinary woman, trying to raise a family under a renewed Caldari occupation. I'm no Ultra-Nationalist, but I have to stand by the NAG that has stood by us, you know?"
Quote:VOTE COUNT: Yes - 210 546 No - 223 101 |
Franseza Quiniou
Elusenian Cooperative
0
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:47:00 -
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REPORTS OF SMALL-SCALE FIREFIGHTS AT POLLING STATIONS ACROSS MANTENAULT
Mantenault - Reports are coming in that small-scale firefights have broken out at several polling places across Mantenault between Elusenian peacekeeping forces and an unknown aggressor being described as "unusually well-organized" according to local sources.
At this stage, it is understood that actions by the unidentified antagonists have been unsuccessful in preventing the counting of the recently concluded referendum at targeted facilities, and that local authorities supported by ELPIDA have managed to drive off the attackers.
According to the Protevousa in Caerleon, only 23 instances of lethal firearms discharge have been logged by the Sub-Directorate of Defence. It is presumed that ELPIDA pursued its doctrinal standard of less-than-lethal engagement. The number of casualties at this time is unknown. As of time of reporting, voting results stands with 601400 ayes, and 598600 noes.
Franseza Quiniou Political Correspondent Caerleon Broadcasting Union |
Franseza Quiniou
Elusenian Cooperative
0
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:20:00 -
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ATTEMPTED DISRUPTION OF VOTE COUNT FOILED; CAPSULEER INVOLVEMENT A POSSIBILITY
Mantenault - The ELPIDA Mission in Mantenault has released information that a small number of the attackers who attempted to disrupt the counting of the second referendum have been captured by indigenous forces, after a holdout by Elusenian peacekeepers drove the assailants away. The detained have been moved to a secure location to undergo 'expedient interrogation' by Mantenault militiafolk, who are widely known to have trained with operatives from the FIO's Special Department of Internal Investigations and Federal Security, better known as the Black Eagles.
In a short report after order was restored, a spokesperson on behalf of ELPIDA Mission Commander Seriphyn Inhonores stated that Elusenian Carabineros did not pursue the unknown militants after they fled, following an extended firefight that saw no reported injuries or death. Local militia captured a small number of the militants once their attack had been foiled. In the militia's own statement, they have pointed to the potentiality of capsuleer involvement in the preparation of the attacks.
This is a breaking news story. |
Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
33
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:40:00 -
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"The ability of massive institutional groupings to mobilize massive political resources to dominate the debate goes against everything Mantenault is made of." was the scathing assessment of Latene local Con Leinan when stopped after voting by an Institute of Social Development observer.
"This place is about each of us getting our say in a community forum. We've never subscribed to this 'delegate' nonsense and we should never have let fear cause us to doubt our own convictions and our own ability to chart the best course for Mantenault."
"We're damned adults! We can speak for our own damn selves! Let's shut this perversion of a government down."
"Why do 'no' voters hate freedom?"
Quote:Vote Count: Yes: 2 000 015 No: 1 950 941 |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1740
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:57:00 -
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So - you've noted, no doubt that Mantenault is now under the control of the State Protectorate? I have some questions...
I was under the impression that the current authority, and by authority I mean lawful authority, in the Mantenault system was the Caldari State and, under the auspices of the lottery, whichever Megacorporation secured the rights to the system. Given this - what possible value do your elections have? Have you secured a deal with the governing authority to permit your exercise of this inefficient political drollery to continue? How in the name of the Winds did you EVER get permission to deploy Elusenian troops on the ground?
I am confused and also VERY concerned for the safety and security of the good people of Mantenault. So concerned that I am considering applying to Corporate leadership to have our OWN Kaalakiota Peacekeepers deployed to the planet to assist in whatever governmental transition should now be occurring.
I would be very interested in hearing why you think that the CEWPA legislation, signed by your own Senate and President, doesn't apply to Mantenault. Why you think that you should be permitted to pursue this peculiar, dangerous and inefficient means of self-government and why someone shouldn't step in to fix this problem before it causes a humanitarian tragedy.
Seriphyn, if it does become necessary to deploy Peacekeepers I'll be in touch with you to negotiate the safe withdrawal of your Carabineros - at this point it would be dreadful if accidents happened. |
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