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Posted - 2013.11.02 07:02:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:(Yes the quotes refer to a different issue. But this is not Fozzie asking people to abuse things on Sisi, he is actually suggesting doing this on the real server as a valid method of providing balance feedback.) GǪbut then, this is not a matter of balancing feedback, but of a pretty immense bug that apparently ignores the damage formula and inflates the outgoing damage by a factor of +ù300.
Note that those logs show a normal hit (GÇ£hitGÇ¥) doing 130k damage and a high-quality hit (GÇ£smashesGÇ¥) doing 121k. Neither of them are wrecking shots and the higher-quality hit does less damage than the normal hit. The damages are insane and the qualities do not match the damage scale. So this is something going severely awry with the to-hit calculations. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:05:00 -
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So here's a question for you DinsdaleGǪDinsdale Pirannha wrote:Please explain for the less literate of us how 5 Sentry drones do 121 K raw alpha, let alone modified alpha. GǪwhy are you biting his head off over saying that people don't seem to understand the problem that is being presented? He's agreeing with you and you get very aggressive over this fact.
AlsoGǪQuote:Clearly, this thread has zero to do with drone assists, but like an desperately lonely , social misfit of a drunk at a party , you have to insert some statement out of left field into the conversation.
If you were not so destructive, I would pity you. GǪwhy did you see fit to make the same error he did and then, once again, aggressively abuse him for no good reason? All you're doing is making it more likely for the thread to be locked and to ensure that the error is left unaddressed.
Put another way, could you please stop being on my side on this because you're not helping.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:19:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Why not, drone assist fleets usually use a lot of sentry drones, what better way to make use of this high-damage sentry drone damage feature than a doctrine that uses lots of sentry drone damage
idgi You have to figure out what causes it first, and when you do, it'll be patched awayGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:55:00 -
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Dusty Daisy wrote:Might not be related but i just had one of my sentry drones hit for 2 damage on a structure i was trying to destroy. That sounds wrong too, but in the exact opposite direction. The lowest possible damage multiplier you're supposed to be able to have is +ù0.5. Unless your sentries do somewhere around 10 HP base damage and/or the structure had some pretty insane resists (they never do), such a low damage shouldn't be possible either. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2013.11.02 09:16:00 -
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Kenrailae wrote:Also would depend on the fall off/Optimal yeah? If they were at edge of range, they could very well have done tiny amounts of DPS just because of Fall off. No. Falloff and tracking only ever affects your chance to hit. The actual damage done depends on your hit quality, which, while related is something completely different.
Your hit quality is essentially the roll of your to-hit die + 0.5. If you have a chance to hit of, say, 0.4 because of falloff or tracking, die rolls of 0.01GÇô0.40 will result in hit qualities (i.e. damage multipliers) of +ù0.51GÇô0.9, and die rolls higher than that will result in complete misses. Being far into falloff means you deal less damage, statistically, but that's because you hit so rarely and because those rare hits get their damage halved GÇö not because your damage is absolutely minute.
For a sentry drone with a base damage of, say, 160 after resists (i.e. 640 base vs 80% resists) to only do 2 HP damage, the final hit quality would have to be 0.0125, which means the die roll would have had to be -0.4875 on a scale from 0 to 1. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2013.11.02 11:53:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:Archon on joke video destroyed at 00:47 Combat logs from some ***** 00:44 Killmail..... Raptor shooting Torpedos And? The timestamp matches the video, and if you haven't seen KMs showing the wrong weapons (or even the wrong ships), you have never seen a killmail. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2013.11.02 11:56:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:dude stfu and gtfo you are ******** So you have nothing coherent and relevant to add, and agree that something fairly problematic is going on here. Got it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2013.11.02 12:01:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:only problem here are retards like me So you can't actually point to anything that's supposedly out of order (well, aside from the obvious problems presented in the OP, of course) or present any kind of logic for why it could be just some minor glitch, and agree that something fairly problematic is going on. Got it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2013.11.02 12:18:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:This KM is from 2different engagements.... You mean the KM from 00:44? The one that matches the logs that show a ship destruction at 00:44? The one that matches the video showing 00:44?
Quote:Thats why Ishtars have double dmg counted and raptor shooting torpedos.... GǪbecause killmails have never shown incorrect data ever, especially as far as ships and weapons used are involved.
Quote:Logs are not Archon ones but maybe even capsule.... GǪand you know this, how? Is it because your capsule regularly takes 4,000 HP (not counting the hundreds of thousands from the odd hits in question) to kill before going Gǣout of controlGǥ and then being subject to scrambling?
That's a lot of baseless and contradictory claims that don't actually show anything wrong with what the OP presents. Instead, you offer only abuse, which leads to the conclusion that you can't present any kind of logic for why it could be just some minor glitch, and agree that something fairly problematic is going on GÇö that's why you have to go for the ad hominem instead. Got it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2013.11.02 12:37:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:...dude just stop posting... you are idiot So you can't actually point to anything wrong with the presented data or provide any kind of logic for why it could be just some minor glitch, and agree that something fairly problematic is going on. Got it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2013.11.06 17:56:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:If it was a Moros.. Ok I can see that.
A sentry drone?
Assuming t2 drone does 200 dps each GǪand you don't have to assume anything more. Each drone is a separate entity; each is logged on its own. It doesn't matter if you have one or one thousand drone in the field, the logs will only show 600 HP (before resists; 200ish if hitting hull with a DCII) hits because that's how much a single drone does.
SoGǪQuote:To get to the point of doing enough in 1 shot, you'd need about.. 200 ishtars (or droneboats), assuming 200 dps per sentry drone. GǪno, even then, what you'd get is 1000 shots at 120 damage each, not 1 shot doing 120k damage. |
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