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The Major
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Posted - 2006.02.12 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
Guess I'm too lazy to do it myself, but can someone up a good image of a Jin Mei female? (Or am I blind and it's already been posted in this thred.)
Ding!
Have fun.
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.02.13 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine The Vherokior look great, though...
He looks almost like Chow Yun Fat!
I'm not here to win any popularity contests. I couldn't care less what you think of me - all that matters is this: Can you defend your opinions? |
Expert Newbie
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Posted - 2006.02.13 06:08:00 -
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I have to say, the new models look really out of place. Not only do they look way too Asian-ified, but they also look incredibly out of place with the other models. Also, the accessories look out of place on the models, especially the Gallente and Minmatar ones. ---------- |
Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.02.13 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Expert Newbie I have to say, the new models look really out of place. Not only do they look way too Asian-ified, but they also look incredibly out of place with the other models. Also, the accessories look out of place on the models, especially the Gallente and Minmatar ones.
That was entirely intentional. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' |
Omar Al'Said
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Posted - 2006.02.13 15:57:00 -
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YEs! I can finally make Kim Jung Il in Space!!
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.02.13 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Omar Al'Said YEs! I can finally make Kim Jung Il in Space!!
Muahahahaha yes do it I wanna see that! -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' |
Hardin
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Posted - 2006.02.13 16:15:00 -
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Stop moaning about the stats - they will have little appreciable difference on how you play the game...
As a character with
Intelligence 19 Perception 24 Charisma 27 Willpower 17 Memory 19
I do only have 35 mill SP - which is low for a Day 1 character - but do not think it has particularly crippled me...
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.02.13 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin Intelligence 19 Perception 24 Charisma 27 Willpower 17 Memory 19
*points and laughs* ...Ahem... The effects of stats are limited by the fact that they ONLY affect skill training TIMES, nothing else... But the question is really just about who gets the slight advantage over somebody else. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' |
Shinshi Casoyako
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Posted - 2006.02.13 16:29:00 -
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Caldari, Achura 7 6 3 6 8 30
Is pretty bad this one =(
This means that cha is really low and that
Int+Per is 15 Which means that 50% of the starting attributes is allready in the 2 attributes most used for primairy in skill training calculation.
I would suggest to exchange int with mem and wil with per in this situation. . Seriously Have I Not Said How I Can Assist Some One You Are Killing Online? |
Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.02.13 22:09:00 -
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can you say... 3rd account?
Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.02.13 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin Stop moaning about the stats - they will have little appreciable difference on how you play the game...
As a character with
Intelligence 19 Perception 24 Charisma 27 Willpower 17 Memory 19
I do only have 35 mill SP - which is low for a Day 1 character - but do not think it has particularly crippled me...
pff, still 6million more then me
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Meat Wadd
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Posted - 2006.02.13 23:36:00 -
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I hope they will let us have amonth to update our old toons with the new image. They could lock them down after that.
=) Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Number 1 in the Hood, G |
Oosel
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Posted - 2006.02.14 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin Stop moaning about the stats - they will have little appreciable difference on how you play the game...
As a character with
Intelligence 19 Perception 24 Charisma 27 Willpower 17 Memory 19
I do only have 35 mill SP - which is low for a Day 1 character - but do not think it has particularly crippled me...
jeez we couldnt have been any closer with same stats and also sp its never stopped me enjoying eve for one second in fact high charisma has helped me out of many a tight situation.....the cynical in me though cant help but think its a sneaky ccp plot to get everyone to take out yet another account for these extra toons
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2006.02.14 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Oveur However, how about suggesting an alternative which you feel is more balanced, without it being just like all the other bloodlines.
give them a shortfall in something else, or another hugely boosted characteristic
compare true amarr and achura: they both have only 3 charisma - a good thing because it is used least (even when training for a command ship, you will gain more time with the higher other stats training for BC and racial cruiser 5 than you would lose training leadership 5 and squad command 4)
However, the true amarr is not overpowered - it has an abnormally high willpower, and low perception to compensate. The achura, on the other hand, has very well balanced attributes, and will be efficient at any role.
I'll just quote this because it's my sentiments exactly.
Achura really is not in balance with any of the other races/bloodlines. Make it so that their 'faction' choices all give +2 char and something else. Alternatively rebalance it slightly so it has average int/mem while perception/willpower consists of one extremely high attribute and one low, or the other way around with mem/int being high/low. Also make it so that the faction will not be able to repair the gimped attrib without wasting 2-3 of its points on charisma.
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2006.02.14 19:34:00 -
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How many are honestly thinking of scrapping their main, or rolling yet-another-alt just for this? I don't see what the fuss is about, my base attributes are better balanced than any of those races. .___. {-,-} /)__) -"-"- Inactive as of 11-02-06. Still Whorum Foring though.
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Minsc
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Posted - 2006.02.14 20:28:00 -
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My stats are Intelligence 18 Perception 18 Charisma 17 Willpower 16 Memory 19
With no implants, pretty balanced and have no regrets of balancing my stats out.
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.02.14 20:38:00 -
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The base attributes are still undergoing revision and balancing, as are the template bonuses. I believe some new attributes were put on Singularity for the Achura this afternoon and are +1 charisma/-1 memory in relation to the previous stats.
The Khanid are the next line to undergo another look at balancing.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2006.02.14 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: kieron The base attributes are still undergoing revision and balancing, as are the template bonuses. I believe some new attributes were put on Singularity for the Achura this afternoon and are +1 charisma/-1 memory in relation to the previous stats.
The Khanid are the next line to undergo another look at balancing.
Well that change just lost CCP an account i was going to create when Achura came out, charisma FTL. --------------------------------------------- <Make ECM Burst useful> ECM Burst Idea! |
HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.02.14 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
Originally by: kieron The base attributes are still undergoing revision and balancing, as are the template bonuses. I believe some new attributes were put on Singularity for the Achura this afternoon and are +1 charisma/-1 memory in relation to the previous stats.
The Khanid are the next line to undergo another look at balancing.
Well that change just lost CCP an account i was going to create when Achura came out, charisma FTL.
that makes more sense kieron, and i'm glad that you guys listen to the players opinions on these
at Dr Whatever, the reason you were starting that account as simply because the new bloodlines were overpowered, was it not? you can't whine when an i-win button is take away, because it was of use to you. Balance is not about benefitting one person or group, its about balancing everyone against everyone else. the new bloodlines were unbalanced with the old stats, and it gives an advantage for people like you who can justify multiple accounts.
I think CCP may lose some subscriptions in the short term over this decision, but in the long term it will pay off. I doubt they could easily nerf the other bloodlines further down the line like they can with modules/ships
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault |
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Oveur
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Posted - 2006.02.14 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
Originally by: kieron The base attributes are still undergoing revision and balancing, as are the template bonuses. I believe some new attributes were put on Singularity for the Achura this afternoon and are +1 charisma/-1 memory in relation to the previous stats.
The Khanid are the next line to undergo another look at balancing.
Well that change just lost CCP an account i was going to create when Achura came out, charisma FTL.
that makes more sense kieron, and i'm glad that you guys listen to the players opinions on these
at Dr Whatever, the reason you were starting that account as simply because the new bloodlines were overpowered, was it not? you can't whine when an i-win button is take away, because it was of use to you. Balance is not about benefitting one person or group, its about balancing everyone against everyone else. the new bloodlines were unbalanced with the old stats, and it gives an advantage for people like you who can justify multiple accounts.
I think CCP may lose some subscriptions in the short term over this decision, but in the long term it will pay off. I doubt they could easily nerf the other bloodlines further down the line like they can with modules/ships
We're still messing with it, here is one proposal for Khanid changes.
Change attributes:
Was:
Perception 9 Willpower 8 Charisma 5 Memory 3 Intelligence 5
Now:
Perception 8 Willpower 8 Charisma 5 Memory 4 Intelligence 5
Change two ancestries:
Cyber Knights:
Was: Perception +4
Now: Perception +3 Intelligence +1
Unionists:
Was: Perception +2 Intelligence +2
Now: Charisma +2 Intelligence +2
Senior Producer EVE Online
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.02.14 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 14/02/2006 21:28:15 ^^ i like that
edit: i think i'd make the unionists 3 intelligence and 1 charisma, but you probably know better
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault |
Testy McServer
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Posted - 2006.02.14 22:33:00 -
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I dont really see the big deal in how the achura was. I have a character With high mem/intel/charisma and a character with high perc/wp/charisma and i was kind of looking foward to making a balanced character that i never planned to fly command ships with, and if i did. i would pay later. We all know that charisma is only going to become more important as the game progresses and they release more skills. If someone started with the khanids or achuras they are still never going to have an advantage over anyways thats already playing.
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Cloud Alexander
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Posted - 2006.02.14 23:47:00 -
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wow,
So Asians did survive WWIII. Welcome to the future my fellow asian comrades ahhahaha.
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2006.02.15 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Wendat Huron on 15/02/2006 01:17:28
Originally by: Cloud Alexander wow,
So Asians did survive WWIII. Welcome to the future my fellow asian comrades ahhahaha.
No they did not, these are all decendants of the navajo.
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2006.02.15 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
Originally by: kieron The base attributes are still undergoing revision and balancing, as are the template bonuses. I believe some new attributes were put on Singularity for the Achura this afternoon and are +1 charisma/-1 memory in relation to the previous stats.
The Khanid are the next line to undergo another look at balancing.
Well that change just lost CCP an account i was going to create when Achura came out, charisma FTL.
that makes more sense kieron, and i'm glad that you guys listen to the players opinions on these
at Dr Whatever, the reason you were starting that account as simply because the new bloodlines were overpowered, was it not? you can't whine when an i-win button is take away, because it was of use to you. Balance is not about benefitting one person or group, its about balancing everyone against everyone else. the new bloodlines were unbalanced with the old stats, and it gives an advantage for people like you who can justify multiple accounts.
I think CCP may lose some subscriptions in the short term over this decision, but in the long term it will pay off. I doubt they could easily nerf the other bloodlines further down the line like they can with modules/ships
These are just starting attributes, not ships, they can't be overpowered especially since everyone has access, right off the bat.
This character would have been 2-3 years behind the vets and 10 months behind mine, if anything those 'overpowred stats' is exactly what the new blood line is supposed to be so that you are not penalized as much for starting this far back.
Honestly, the first 6 months of this game are terrible, specially the manditory learning skils, the new bloodlines are a great opportunity to bridge some of the gap between the vets and noobs/new accounts, why waste that chance?
Most of the people complaining about this are exibiting a typical North American attitude, "well i got screwed a long time ago, so screw everyone else"
Anyways, don't really understand why everyone is against these stats just seems like it's another excuse for someone to complain about.
Btw, i dont really care that Achura is Caldari. --------------------------------------------- <Make ECM Burst useful> ECM Burst Idea! |
Pelsson
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Posted - 2006.02.15 02:25:00 -
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Just so everybody will get happy with the attributes on theyŚre character, (I had no clue what those attributes did when I started playing)
my attributes: int:18 Perc: 16 charisma 12 willpower 23 memery 17
been playing since june 2003 and I just went over 31m sp
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Kollos Kumerian
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Posted - 2006.02.15 03:55:00 -
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Speaking someone who's been playing since January, 2006... I, for one, welcome our new Asian Overlords.
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Chi Prime
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Posted - 2006.02.15 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: ApophisXP Linkage
Sweet jebus....
I think many would really appreciate it if you revamped the old chars aswell... these new ones are awsome.
Originally by: Kollos Kumerian Speaking someone who's been playing since January, 2006... I, for one, welcome our new Asian Overlords.
rofl
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.02.15 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Chi Prime
Originally by: ApophisXP Linkage
Sweet jebus....
I think many would really appreciate it if you revamped the old chars aswell... these new ones are awsome.
Originally by: Kollos Kumerian Speaking someone who's been playing since January, 2006... I, for one, welcome our new Asian Overlords.
rofl
No, you have far less choices with their faces, there is no deko and nearly no make up to choose
and I think thy lowered their boobiness
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Ominus Decre
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Posted - 2006.02.15 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
...and I think thy lowered their boobiness
NOOoooooo!!! GOD, WHY!?!?! PLEASE, NNnoooooooooo...!!!
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