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Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:15:00 -
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This is just a random thought that occured to me that I thought I'd pass along. It would be fun sometime to form a corporation whose sole purpose is to strip mine several constellations/region(s) immediately after Downtime so that nobody else could get anything from there that day.
Get 30 or so Skiffs/Procurers that are in no way cost-effective to gank, hoover the minerals, and move on. Orcas kept in safe spots way, way inside the undock radius fit for tank, mining support (Range, Speed Mining links, the shield resist link). (underneath/on top of the stations?)
Basically the strategy of the aliens from Independence Day.
Mainly thought of this strategy after watching myself and a few alts destroy a belt in an hour or so. Began to wonder what a much larger, concerted effort could do.
Practical? Nah.
But it would be fun to see a bunch of people whining about not having any minerals to mine.
Granted, this is probably already employed near Jita.
Just a random thought that farted out that I thought I'd share.
No, it's not a thought about ganking miners to grief them but actually mining to grief miners in later TZs
MvM
Miners v Miners
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ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve Filthy Bastards
1554
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:18:00 -
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That is certainly a different way of miner griefing. You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |
Braxus Deninard
Sky Fighters
238
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:19:00 -
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Sounds funny but that would mean you have to mine. Ewwy. |
Old Phill
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:23:00 -
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interesting but for people to actually notice any real difference you would need hundred or so people and for a dull activity the best you can probably do is do it around newbie systems but that could be considered noob bully what eva they call it if you did it everyday |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1470
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:23:00 -
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This, my friends, is the enemy we face.
When the poison has spread so far, that people believe the best way to fight bot aspirancy is with more and greater bot aspirancy.
This is the future, but for we noble few...
http://www.minerbumping.com/ Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Omar Alharazaad
ZomCom
121
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:28:00 -
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I suppose if the lot of you were extremely drunk and on comms at the same time it could be bearable. You could also just wardec all the indy corps in the area you plan on operating in and come beat up their barges with your barges and steal their minerals from their smoking hulls... would probably be a great deal more entertaining.
Edit: Added bonus of using mining ships to kill mining ships is removing the whole "unfair" whinge that inevitably arises. |
Seven Koskanaiken
Sons Of Saints Circle-Of-Two
462
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:31:00 -
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make asteroids destroyable |
Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals Market and Contract PVP
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:32:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:make asteroids destroyable
Make this happen |
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:33:00 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:I suppose if the lot of you were extremely drunk and on comms at the same time it could be bearable. You could also just wardec all the indy corps in the area you plan on operating in and come beat up their barges with your barges and steal their minerals from their smoking hulls... would probably be a great deal more entertaining. Edit: Added bonus of using mining ships to kill mining ships is removing the whole "unfair" whinge that inevitably arises.
Like I said, this was a random idea I farted out. Doubt I'd ever try to make this possible. But If I were.......
While the mining fleet is in operation, have a simaltaneous bumping/ganking fleet to rid the system(s) of other miners. Drive off the competition, scoop up the ore......
But yeah, this would really only be able to be run for a week max.
Unless I had The Wis' setup with his 50-man Mac fleet.
Lock roid, activate mining lasers, wait 4 seconds, deactivate lasers, lock next roid, etc.
lol.
Quote:make asteroids destroyable
Wait for Ice Anoms to spawn, warp to anom with disco battleship fleet, destroy ice roids, collect tears. |
Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:36:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote: Basically the strategy of the aliens from Independence Day.
And we all remember how that movie ended. Some one just happens to be genius and if few short hours learns how totally alien computer systems works including security features and how to bypass them.. And down the carriers goes... Oh yeah mother ship got blowup by nuke as well...
Larger coordinated effort? Not going to happen. Highsec miners cant organize enough even to drive up prices of minerals, even tough all it would be their own benefit. Corporate level it could work and some mining corps no dough do this already. We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do... |
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Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:40:00 -
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Dasola wrote:Himnos Altar wrote: Basically the strategy of the aliens from Independence Day.
And we all remember how that movie ended. Some one just happens to be genius and if few short hours learns how totally alien computer systems works including security features and how to bypass them.. And down the carriers goes... Oh yeah mother ship got blowup by nuke as well... Larger coordinated effort? Not going to happen. Highsec miners cant organize enough even to drive up prices of minerals, even tough all it would be their own benefit. Corporate level it could work and some mining corps no dough do this already.
lol yeah.
Can't remember the last time I saw a mining op that had more than 10 people in it.
This theory was on the corp level, not a "All the Region" level.
A dedicated group of 20+ miners who grief later TZ miners by scooping every damn scrap of ore out of the belts on a system-wide, possibly (but doubtfully) Constellation level. The coordination required to do this on a Regional level would be hella impressive but most likely impossible.
I kind of wonder if The Wis doesn't do this between Ice Anoms. All it would take would be a separate mining ship in his fleet's home station. |
Jena Jamson
Thirtyplus Spaceship Samurai
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:42:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote:Like I said, this was a random idea I farted out.
Like any random farts anywhere, it stinks and full of ****. |
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:44:00 -
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Jena Jamson wrote:Himnos Altar wrote:Like I said, this was a random idea I farted out. Like any random farts anywhere, it stinks and full of shittt.
Which is precisely why I called this a fart. :P |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:48:00 -
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Came to this thread expecting one thing, got another.
I'd take it a step smaller though, and just find belts with active miners in them. Miners hate when you chew the rock out from under them. The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Good Posting
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:50:00 -
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Electrique Wizard wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:make asteroids destroyable Make this happen
Yeah, shooting rocks sounds fun. Where is the party? |
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
302
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:51:00 -
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Good Posting wrote:Electrique Wizard wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:make rats destroyable Make this happen Yeah, shooting crosses sounds fun. Where is the party?
fixed? :P |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
596
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:54:00 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:... You could also just wardec all the indy corps in the area you plan on operating in and come beat up their barges with your barges and steal their minerals from their smoking hulls...
But You can't wardec NPC corpses... Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Sevendeadly Sins
Meatshield Bastards The Bastards.
7
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Posted - 2013.11.12 12:21:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:... You could also just wardec all the indy corps in the area you plan on operating in and come beat up their barges with your barges and steal their minerals from their smoking hulls... But You can't wardec NPC corpses... Only someone that has something against the dead would do that. |
Good Posting
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2013.11.12 12:23:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote:Good Posting wrote:Electrique Wizard wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:make rats destroyable Make this happen Yeah, shooting crosses sounds fun. Where is the party? fixed? :P
You have a good point there. PvE in this game needs a revamp and i only like it when i bring frigates to tough sites, but since my trading knowledge and skills are so terrible, i have to rat and run sites to make some iskies.
Going solo to run high end sites in null is fun because of the other players around, not because i like to kill those poor npc pirates. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
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Posted - 2013.11.12 12:24:00 -
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Sevendeadly Sins wrote:Debora Tsung wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:... You could also just wardec all the indy corps in the area you plan on operating in and come beat up their barges with your barges and steal their minerals from their smoking hulls... But You can't wardec NPC corpses... Only someone that has something against the dead would do that.
What does that say about someone with a corpse collection?
Because... I know a guy that does that. He's... a friend. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
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Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
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Posted - 2013.11.12 12:26:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Sevendeadly Sins wrote:Debora Tsung wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:... You could also just wardec all the indy corps in the area you plan on operating in and come beat up their barges with your barges and steal their minerals from their smoking hulls... But You can't wardec NPC corpses... Only someone that has something against the dead would do that. What does that say about someone with a corpse collection? Because... I know a guy that does that. He's... a friend.
who doesn't have a corpse collection? |
Haedonism Bot
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
446
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Posted - 2013.11.12 12:29:00 -
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Be nice, everybody, the OP is on the cusp of Enlightenment. Already he has come to the realization that it is more fun to "grief" miners than it is to mine. There is a logical progression to this train of thought. He deserves our love and support through this transition period. Join the Revolutionary Front and liberate New Eden from it's stuff.
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Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
302
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Posted - 2013.11.12 12:33:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:Be nice, everybody, the OP is on the cusp of Enlightenment. Already he has come to the realization that it is more fun to "grief" miners than it is to mine. There is a logical progression to this train of thought. He deserves our love and support through this transition period.
If by Enlightenment you mean the New Order?
Hell yeah I support James 315.
I may occasionally dabble into mining, but it's more of a hobby that I occasionally ply, and not a way of life.
I often slip his name into Local or some random channel merely to revel in the infamy they ascribe to him. It's quite hilarious. |
Omar Alharazaad
ZomCom
121
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Posted - 2013.11.12 13:05:00 -
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It is more fun to watch paint dry on the wall you just erected than it is to mine. But the real question is, are you Fortunado or Montressor? On some wild nights you can manage to be both at the same time.
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WASPY69
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.11.12 13:24:00 -
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A very long time ago, in a system far far away, being a wee little newbie, I was mining in a carebear corp. We would get mining fleets of 35 or more people from our corp, and we would clear belts in under an hour, so much so that in one night of "mining ops" we had to travel to the adjacent system over to continue. Point being? It takes a LOT of effort to coordinate such things, and considering there are 1000 or so highsec systems in eve, clearing all of them of asteroid belts would be impossible for one corp to do, Downtime to Downtime. Clearing one system? more than feasible. More than one system? highly unlikely.
Also. Please stop using the word "griefing". There is no such thing as griefing in EVE. It's all emergent gameplay providing everyone with content. Griefing would refer to someone doing things to you in ways unintended by CCP for the sole purpose of harassment. This would be considered an exploit. And it is not the case when your barge is turned into spacedust from a Catalyst. It's all allowed within the sandbox.
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Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
97
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Posted - 2013.11.12 14:44:00 -
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Ultimate miner revenge - get gankers mining instead of ganking. Then, gank gankers' mining ships. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5149
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Posted - 2013.11.12 14:46:00 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:I suppose if the lot of you were extremely drunk and on comms at the same time it could be bearable. You could also just wardec all the indy corps in the area you plan on operating in and come beat up their barges with your barges and steal their minerals from their smoking hulls... would probably be a great deal more entertaining. Edit: Added bonus of using mining ships to kill mining ships is removing the whole "unfair" whinge that inevitably arises. sounds lke you want to awox There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
510
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Posted - 2013.11.12 14:47:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote:This is just a random thought that occured to me that I thought I'd pass along. It would be fun sometime to form a corporation whose sole purpose is to strip mine several constellations/region(s) immediately after Downtime so that nobody else could get anything from there that day.
Get 30 or so Skiffs/Procurers that are in no way cost-effective to gank, hoover the minerals, and move on. Orcas kept in safe spots way, way inside the undock radius fit for tank, mining support (Range, Speed Mining links, the shield resist link). (underneath/on top of the stations?)
Basically the strategy of the aliens from Independence Day.
Mainly thought of this strategy after watching myself and a few alts destroy a belt in an hour or so. Began to wonder what a much larger, concerted effort could do.
Practical? Nah.
But it would be fun to see a bunch of people whining about not having any minerals to mine.
Granted, this is probably already employed near Jita.
Just a random thought that farted out that I thought I'd share.
No, it's not a thought about ganking miners to grief them but actually mining to grief miners in later TZs
MvM
Miners v Miners
:P
Two things:
1) Put the Orca in a POS. Anything on a station can be ganked with enough Tornadoes.
2) Skiffs and Procurers are fine - until you get WarDec'd. Better to stay in NPC corps and gather everyone into a private channel. AUT5M - Active HiSec/WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Inquire within. 5mSP minimum, full API required. |
dexington
Dexington Corporation
881
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:03:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote: It would be fun sometime to form a corporation whose sole purpose is to strip mine several constellations/region(s) immediately after Downtime so that nobody else could get anything from there that day.
I think you are overestimating the ability of 30 skiff. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Taal Khurin
Happy Asteroid Ltd
69
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:22:00 -
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I still do not get all the fascination with greifing miners etc. There seems to be so many threads devoted to it, it almost seems like a miner touched them in a naughty place when they were young or something.
It's also strangely really only a vaguely recent thing, up until a couple of years ago you rarely heard about suicide ganking barges. |
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