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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1759
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Posted - 2013.12.07 06:41:00 -
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yes local stifles all PvP in nullsec and nobody fights over anything there because it's impossible to
oh wait that is totally bullshit npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6699
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Posted - 2013.12.07 06:42:00 -
[62] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:This discussion will get a little more entertaining in a few weeks time. I eagerly await the news. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1759
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Posted - 2013.12.07 06:45:00 -
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clearly the solution to the mechanics being edged towards the defender's favor are to completely screw the defender and make them sheep to the wolves
"ratters in 0.0 solely exist as targets and nothing else, they should have no way of avoiding danger and they should be required to put up a fight, which they of course would lose every time because ratters stand zero chance against roaming gangs"
oh and "I dislike the fact that hostiles won't drop supers for my risk-averse ass to drop my supercapital blob on because they see my cyno alt in local" npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1761
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Posted - 2013.12.07 06:49:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:It's less about any threat to existing groups and more about what certain people/groups (e.g. Marlona Sky) want handed to them on a silver platter. They seem to forget there's already somewhere in EVE they can go to play without local, but we all know they won't go there. I have read enough "remove local" threads to conclude that local is double edged and if you remove it, nobody really benefits from the loss. Having it in place, the benefit is equal. With local, you get instant intel. So does the other guy. Without local, you don't get instant intel. Neither does the other guy. So please define for us pubbies (I am a Pubbie Overlord according to Joepopo) what exactly will be on that "silver platter" that you are worried about.
let's also remove metrics like NPC kills, ship kills, development indices, player ships in space, and gate jumps from the in-game map and API, because they are also a source of instant, reliable and free intel
or would that make the life of the hunter too miserable abloobloobloo why is this challenging npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1201
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Posted - 2013.12.07 06:54:00 -
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Someone has missed their daily medication I see. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1958
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:01:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: Yeah, rat bounties will totally go up. Not. Also, faction/deadspace/officer modules at 20x their prices won't sell. So keep dreaming. .
They sold before at super high prices, they'll sell again, but please carry on standing up strawmen its funny.
The change will happen eventually, and I'll be sure to come find you and remind you of how right I am, poor lil fella.
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1958
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:03:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:It's less about any threat to existing groups and more about what certain people/groups (e.g. Marlona Sky) want handed to them on a silver platter. They seem to forget there's already somewhere in EVE they can go to play without local, but we all know they won't go there. I have read enough "remove local" threads to conclude that local is double edged and if you remove it, nobody really benefits from the loss. Having it in place, the benefit is equal. With local, you get instant intel. So does the other guy. Without local, you don't get instant intel. Neither does the other guy. So please define for us pubbies (I am a Pubbie Overlord according to Joepopo) what exactly will be on that "silver platter" that you are worried about. let's also remove metrics like NPC kills, ship kills, development indices, player ships in space, and gate jumps from the in-game map and API, because they are also a source of instant, reliable and free intel or would that make the life of the hunter too miserable abloobloobloo why is this challenging oh and also watchlists, notifications of structures under attack, SBU mails, etc etc etc: it all has to go because clearly eve online has to be a tedious game that requires eyes peeled on every gate, moon and station in every system for people to gather intel
I actually think all that should go too, if you want intel, go get it, with an actual player, sorry that upsets you but its true, all that automation makes it easy.
Also with all your stacked up crap in that last post, nobody is asking that you be made completely helpless unless you personally choose that, you will simply have to do more than warp to anomaly and stare at a chat window to be safe.
Oh the humanity.
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6699
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:06:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Yeah, rat bounties will totally go up. Not. Also, faction/deadspace/officer modules at 20x their prices won't sell. So keep dreaming. .
They sold before at super high prices, they'll sell again, but please carry on standing up strawmen its funny. The change will happen eventually, and I'll be sure to come find you and remind you of how right I am, poor lil fella. How do you plan on finding me? Locator agents? Cause I'm sure those'll go totally untouched. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1762
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:10:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Also with all your stacked up crap in that last post, nobody is asking that you be made completely helpless unless you personally choose that, you will simply have to do more than warp to anomaly and stare at a chat window to be safe.
Oh the humanity.
yes you'll actually have to log in 20 alts to put eyes on every gate in the system you're in, every adjacent system and every system adjacent to those npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6699
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:11:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:you will simply have to do more than warp to anomaly and stare at a chat window to be safe. Heh. Let's hear your suggestion then. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1762
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:11:00 -
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oh and you better not miss that bomber jumping in and cloaking up in one second flat because that guy fitting a cyno and a point is all it takes npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1958
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:12:00 -
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Man, poor baby drama queens, if you have to do anything other than stare at a chat window your 0.0 life is over, you heard it here first. Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6699
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:19:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Man, poor baby drama queens, if you have to do anything other than stare at a chat window your 0.0 life is over, you heard it here first. So you don't have an answer, then. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Anomaly One
106
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:28:00 -
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what's this magical world where high sec lvl 4 missions have good pay? yea if you grind them 10 hours a day.. high sec income is ******* horrible :( (I don't do incursions) Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1959
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:31:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Man, poor baby drama queens, if you have to do anything other than stare at a chat window your 0.0 life is over, you heard it here first. So you don't have an answer, then.
No answer I could give would assuage your bitter butt bereavement, what do you want to hear, that you can rat aligned, that you control where you sit in your anomaly while you do it and the hunter has fixed points of entry? That they made this sweet mod called an MJD that makes repositioning a fairly trivial thing that you can do constantly? That you play an MMO and that perhaps working with a friend could help you because when I do rat, and I do rat, I do it combat fit, and 2 combat fit people have zero concern about a silly cyno cov ops because it dies instantly?
Like exactly what are you looking for here James that would help you understand how incredibly whiney and lazy and entitled you sound when you think that your job should be trivially easy while the people that are actually hunting should have to move heaven and earth for a single kill during a day?
I mean jesus christ man, if you're so incredibly against losing a space ship or putting out any effort to stay safe then just go back to empire where its designed for that, theres not much else I can tell you besides the fact that in this thread you are acting like a baby, a drama queen, and a douche bag over something that is GOING to happen, and has been a long time coming, admitted by CCP's own staff on multiple occasions for years. Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5288
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:36:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Yeah, rat bounties will totally go up. Not. Also, faction/deadspace/officer modules at 20x their prices won't sell. So keep dreaming. .
They sold before at super high prices, they'll sell again, but please carry on standing up strawmen its funny. The change will happen eventually, and I'll be sure to come find you and remind you of how right I am, poor lil fella. How do you plan on finding me? Locator agents? Cause I'm sure those'll go totally untouched. Luckily pl doesn't have to defend their renters like progodlegend's group does
more forums time There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1762
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:36:00 -
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if you're ratting combat fit you might as well head to empire because the returns will be so **** that you're better off incursion farming npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1959
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:38:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Yeah, rat bounties will totally go up. Not. Also, faction/deadspace/officer modules at 20x their prices won't sell. So keep dreaming. .
They sold before at super high prices, they'll sell again, but please carry on standing up strawmen its funny. The change will happen eventually, and I'll be sure to come find you and remind you of how right I am, poor lil fella. How do you plan on finding me? Locator agents? Cause I'm sure those'll go totally untouched. Luckily pl doesn't have to defend their renters like progodlegend's group does more forums time
You mean like today when we had a renters Wyvern get tackled and had to go save it? Yea, we don't defend our renters
Tell me this James, say you rat in an officer fit Nightmare, where are you safer, Empire running lvl 4's or in Goons home space?
Richard Desturned wrote:if you're ratting combat fit you might as well head to empire because the returns will be so **** that you're better off incursion farming
You can clear over 80 million an hour in Fountain with a Talos and a Scimmie, peddle your lies elsewhere youngin. Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
12767
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:42:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Malcanis wrote:This discussion will get a little more entertaining in a few weeks time. I eagerly await the news.
I don't think you do.
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Leigh Akiga
Trickle Down Economics
369
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:44:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Luckily pl doesn't have to defend their renters like progodlegend's group does
No they just make EMP go do it rofl!
Renter ratting super tackled go handle that |
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1762
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:44:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:You can clear over 80 million an hour in Fountain with a Talos and a Scimmie, peddle your lies elsewhere youngin.
so, yeah, you're better off incursion farming
or better yet, in a wormhole where risk/reward isn't completely lopsided and the lack of local is balanced by other mechanics npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6700
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:45:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Malcanis wrote:This discussion will get a little more entertaining in a few weeks time. I eagerly await the news. I don't think you do. You seem to be contradicting yourself. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6700
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:48:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Tell me this James, say you rat in an officer fit Nightmare, where are you safer, Empire running lvl 4's or in Goons home space? I'm glad you saw fit to illustrate pretty much the ONLY case in which I'm in more danger in empire than in nullsec.
Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Anomaly One
106
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:53:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Malcanis wrote:This discussion will get a little more entertaining in a few weeks time. I eagerly await the news. I don't think you do.
!!!!! confirmed local will be removed (replaced with something) THX MALCANIS x0x0x0 Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4
Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6700
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:53:00 -
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Note I never denied that it could be replaced with something. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1959
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Posted - 2013.12.07 07:58:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Tell me this James, say you rat in an officer fit Nightmare, where are you safer, Empire running lvl 4's or in Goons home space? I'm glad you saw fit to illustrate pretty much the ONLY case in which I'm in more danger in empire than in nullsec.
Ok, say you rat in an simple faction fit nightmare, or vindi, or CNR, are you safer in Empire grinding L4's or in Goons home systems?
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5288
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Posted - 2013.12.07 08:03:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Tell me this James, say you rat in an officer fit Nightmare, where are you safer, Empire running lvl 4's or in Goons home space? I'm glad you saw fit to illustrate pretty much the ONLY case in which I'm in more danger in empire than in nullsec. what about an officer fit raven
specifically a 60billion isk navy raven There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6700
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Posted - 2013.12.07 08:03:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Tell me this James, say you rat in an officer fit Nightmare, where are you safer, Empire running lvl 4's or in Goons home space? I'm glad you saw fit to illustrate pretty much the ONLY case in which I'm in more danger in empire than in nullsec. Ok, say you rat in an simple faction fit nightmare, or vindi, or CNR, are you safer in Empire grinding L4's or in Goons home systems? Empire. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5288
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Posted - 2013.12.07 08:07:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Tell me this James, say you rat in an officer fit Nightmare, where are you safer, Empire running lvl 4's or in Goons home space? I'm glad you saw fit to illustrate pretty much the ONLY case in which I'm in more danger in empire than in nullsec. Ok, say you rat in an simple faction fit nightmare, or vindi, or CNR, are you safer in Empire grinding L4's or in Goons home systems? Empire. no you will be caught by marmite on jita undock
try again There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6701
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Posted - 2013.12.07 08:09:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Tell me this James, say you rat in an officer fit Nightmare, where are you safer, Empire running lvl 4's or in Goons home space? I'm glad you saw fit to illustrate pretty much the ONLY case in which I'm in more danger in empire than in nullsec. Ok, say you rat in an simple faction fit nightmare, or vindi, or CNR, are you safer in Empire grinding L4's or in Goons home systems? Empire. no you will be caught by marmite on jita undock try again heh. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
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