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mannyman
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:45:00 -
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I saw the devs/supports apology, I was wondering what they have in mind of global compensation, what do you think ?
personally I think 1 week of 300% speed of training time would be really great... we all could finish off some really hard skills in 1 week..
other suggestions ?
plz dont lock this thread, as I'm not whining of the downtime as we all know devs are working on the issues. just want to discuss dev/support hints which just came out.
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Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:46:00 -
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go read the 20 other threads asking for this for a clue ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Na Jenton
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:46:00 -
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that would be too drastic, they might just add a few days to everyone's account time like they did once before.
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Zhou Enlai
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: mannyman
personally I think 1 week of 300% speed of training time would be really great... we all could finish off some really hard skills in 1 week..
ABSOLUTELY NOT. There is NO reason you shouldn't be able to train skills during this period of server issues. NONE. Therefore, there's nothing to compensate.
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Ranger 1
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:51:00 -
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Manny,
The advisory's to set long skill trainings before patch deployment were there for a reason. Politely put however, points for that.
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mannyman
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:52:00 -
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There has been alot of whining of lost play time, and lost training time here in the forums. therefore I thought that training speed would be great as it gives time back (not rl time though but still time). and it wont benefit a few, all actually.
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Naleb Cilani
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:53:00 -
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Personally, I think CCP should "reward" all these helpful hints with multiple poddings.
CCP is not SOE. Get your free xp elsewhere.
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mannyman
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:53:00 -
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ranger, good point.
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lasarith
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: lasarith on 05/03/2006 19:54:21 normaly every other game (mmorpg-several) have given free added days for however long the server been buggerd for.
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Idara
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:59:00 -
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That's stupid. I could make a constructive post, but that idea it retarded.
Older players could max out a level 5 or two of higher rank while nubs get shafted with being able to max their "uber" rank 1 skills. -------------------------------------------------------- Lieutenant BSC Military
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mannyman
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:01:00 -
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I agree that other games gives days, but eve is a long term game which we spend alot of time within, therefore 2-3 days added to the account doesnt make much of a difference. however, if ppl could finish that cruiser V in a week, or several lower V skills...
I'm just thinking of a compensation that makes a difference to ppl which 2-3 days added wont. I just want to stop all that whining.
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mannyman
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:02:00 -
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if u get 1 week of speed training, then u can finish all I-V low skills pretty quick as a newbie, meaning a 20 min lvl I skill will be finished in 7-8 minutes.
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:08:00 -
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Just for you... "..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.."
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shelioo
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:13:00 -
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Kaali, u missed something here, alot of ppl did put on long skills, but this time we got problems like days and days after the patch day.. ok they did warn about today, its been bad, but the last week has been bad.. I love the idea of speed training.
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: shelioo Kaali, u missed something here, alot of ppl did put on long skills, but this time we got problems like days and days after the patch day.. ok they did warn about today, its been bad, but the last week has been bad.. I love the idea of speed training.
Long MEANS ...LONG. What part of that was missed??
And while i'll spare all the the new folks with the "When I was your age we had to space walk to mine veldspar" comments, having spent months in beta, and from release to now, I think im fully qualified to say, its not me that missed anything..
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.."
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lasarith
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:18:00 -
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why doesent ccp-just put it to a vote-
free xx days, double skill points for x time, ablity for said days to train second chariter, isk complensation, standing increse with x, ect ect,
highest vote -what we get?
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Bubba Theman
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: mannyman I saw the devs/supports apology, I was wondering what they have in mind of global compensation, what do you think ?
personally I think 1 week of 300% speed of training time would be really great... we all could finish off some really hard skills in 1 week..
other suggestions ?
plz dont lock this thread, as I'm not whining of the downtime as we all know devs are working on the issues. just want to discuss dev/support hints which just came out.
You are suggesting being able to train 21 days worth of skills in a 7-day timeframe for losing a few hours of gametime? Is this correct?
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shelioo
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:22:00 -
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50% of the players came in the last 2-3 months, and ccp also says that the average player stays 7 months. loooong is like 30 day skill, cruiser or so.. frig V is only 20 days and with some learning skills down to 10-12 days. so, not all that actually got a 30d skill yet. I do, but I'm thinking of all the ones that doesnt, but only got a 5-6d skill.
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mannyman
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bubba Theman
Originally by: mannyman I saw the devs/supports apology, I was wondering what they have in mind of global compensation, what do you think ?
personally I think 1 week of 300% speed of training time would be really great... we all could finish off some really hard skills in 1 week..
other suggestions ?
plz dont lock this thread, as I'm not whining of the downtime as we all know devs are working on the issues. just want to discuss dev/support hints which just came out.
You are suggesting being able to train 21 days worth of skills in a 7-day timeframe for losing a few hours of gametime? Is this correct?
I'm talking of a compensation that makes a difference because of all that happened lately, I only made this response due to devs/supp hint. if 7d speed training is equal to 21d, let it be, but it sure makes a difference..
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Liberati
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:38:00 -
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They aren't going to throw us as big of a bone as you have suggested. They'll probably give us a free day and be done with it. With all the whining and moaning going on I'd be suprised they even give us that.
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John Torakiba
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:49:00 -
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Kaaii Your *****ing me up. Wish I had thought about making a nice post and then just linking it in all the whine threads.
Lets see I set a 5 day train on Tues. Last night I got on and first thing I did was switch to another 5 day skill. I still have 8 hours left on the one, but I can pick that up as soon as the servers settle down.
I see no need for any compensation, warnings were posted everywhere that yes major patch, yes we will unfortunatly probably have some unforseen issues so may we suggest you plan on sporadic uptime. If you are going to quit, please don't forget to send your cash to John Torakiba and setup your equipment on escrow to John Torakiba. |
Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:52:00 -
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The problem with global compensation is that a lot of us are not seeing the problems people are complaining about, but would still be compensated for no loss. How many of us would actually stand up and say "don't compensate me, I didn't suffer?"
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SinBin
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: SinBin on 05/03/2006 21:01:39
Originally by: Idara That's stupid. I could make a constructive post, but that idea it retarded.
Older players could max out a level 5 or two of higher rank while nubs get shafted with being able to max their "uber" rank 1 skills.
The age of the caracter is irrlevent the bonus will be the smae.
I like the idea much better then some free days.
Conpentions isnt just ment to equl the loss but give alitttle on top.
---------------------- isk complensation, standing increse with x, ----------------------
This kind of conpention would be very hard to implement, for me 10mill or 1k xp is nothing for example wile to a new fella thats a weeks work. _______________________________________
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T'Laar Bok
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174 How many of us would actually stand up and say "don't compensate me, I didn't suffer?"
Me is one.
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Sixtyniner
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: T'Laar Bok
Originally by: Adonis 4174 How many of us would actually stand up and say "don't compensate me, I didn't suffer?"
Me is one.
Count me in.
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: lasarith Edited by: lasarith on 05/03/2006 19:54:21 normaly every other game (mmorpg-several) have given free added days for however long the server been buggerd for.
this isn't Every other MMORPG. This is Eve.
Big difference ---------------------------------
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Za Po
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174 How many of us would actually stand up and say "don't compensate me, I didn't suffer?"
Me, for example.
I lost a grand total of two hours skill time up to now. Asking for two friggin' weeks of free skillage for compensation sounds like what a 12-years-old would ask. -------------------- Do you have a solution to the BM and instas problem? Test it against the bookmark requirements. |
Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: mannyman I saw the devs/supports apology, I was wondering what they have in mind of global compensation, what do you think ?
personally I think 1 week of 300% speed of training time would be really great... we all could finish off some really hard skills in 1 week..
other suggestions ?
plz dont lock this thread, as I'm not whining of the downtime as we all know devs are working on the issues. just want to discuss dev/support hints which just came out.
suck it up, let them concentrate on the patch, and not 100k subs getting boosted
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Wulfstan
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:56:00 -
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It's done me a bit of a minor favour really. I never quite got around to getting Weapon Upgrades trained to level 5 before as there was always something more needed with shorter train times.
So before the patch I set it training for the 11 day or so required train time. I pop my head into the game and these forums every now and then to see how things are going ...
Hmm, not looking so hot ATM so I play some other games and, dang, even some real life stuff when I can't avoid it.
Then some day in the not too distant future we'll come out of the fog and I'll be able to start training Advanced Weapon Upgrades and fit more huge guns to my ships. Laaahverly!
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Cainex
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: Cainex on 05/03/2006 22:10:15 Edited by: Cainex on 05/03/2006 22:09:59 I really don't understand something. First off I wasn't severely affected by all the downtime so I don't feel the need for compensation for MYSELF.
Why do some people feel its all right for the game to screw up and time be lost (not training time, playing time) since they warned us. I don't pay the fee every month to train but to PLAY!!!! The game was unavailable. The game is the product. Therefore the product you were paying for was not there. Who gives a crap that they warned us. If I bought a car and the guy said "Make sure you have a spare car, the transmission might crap out for a day or two next Thursday." I think I would be looking at another car personally.
Maybe its just me. I don't consider it whining to be ****ed off that the game you are paying for is unavailable. Does stuff happen? Of course. But that doesn't absolve them of the blame. Any single patch put out that screws the game up is 100% their fault.
I think its time all companies in the computer section should stop this crap that "its a bug". Your right, and you missed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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