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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.12.26 22:54:00 -
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Samuel Moore Walton wrote:There are PROs and CONs with the time dilation system, however none of the PROs benefit PVE pilots.
Time Dilation is detrimental to ISK per hour of pilots active in space.
There needs to be a PRO for mission runners, and the solution should be simple yet elegant. When each mission is generated, it is accompanied by a new empty variable. This variable would track the high-water mark for TiDi experienced during the mission, and then compensate the rewards appropriately.
Mission Reward = (1 + (TiDi * 1))
For instance if the system was under 70% Time Dilation during the mission, the payout would be increased from 1m isk to 1.7m ISK.
The LP would be increased from 10k LP to 17k LP.
For the Anom Runners: Every Wallet tick should reset and track the high-water mark for TiDi and multiply bounties accordingly.
Wallet Tick = (1 + (TiDi * 1)).
This would help quell the faceless accusations that EVE caters only to the PVP player.
I am uncertain if miners are penalized by TiDi so I can't speak to this but if they are, the same method should be applied.
This is genuinely hilarious, not because you're a whiny little mission runner with no thought or care for anything other than your ISK/hr, but because you may have inadvertently solved several problems at once:
I believe I will forward your suggestion without the narrowminded self interest - to increase ALL DPS by the TiDi factor; after all if fleets in 10% TiDi did 10x as much damage, then fights would be over faster, and the source of the server lag - the real underlying issue here - would be resolved that much faster.
And since the major cause of TiDi is slowcat tactics, a 10x damage boost would provide a very viable counter.
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Jill Chastot
Oath of the Forsaken Ragnarok.
85
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Posted - 2013.12.26 22:55:00 -
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o.0 120k alpha nado? |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2723
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Posted - 2013.12.26 23:01:00 -
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Jill Chastot wrote:o.0 120k alpha nado? Quick, lag up the node, then spread fire to alpha the entire enemy fleet. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
12937
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Posted - 2013.12.26 23:09:00 -
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Jill Chastot wrote:o.0 120k alpha nado?
Get in a Nag if you want to talk about alpha, scrub.
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Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
23
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Posted - 2013.12.26 23:15:00 -
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And their should be a GTC time reward aswell because time go's slower aswell!!
Serious... gfto filty carebear
WOW > That way |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5606
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Posted - 2013.12.26 23:16:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:NEONOVUS wrote:Garnoo wrote:cant CCP simply unplug hisec so we can have a 4000 man battle in null without TiDi = problem solved :D If that happens I cant make all those DDA 2s and wardens and DC2s you guys are chugging Seriously keep it up, I like making money Doesn't matter. Even if we had the best node for it, it would still tidi And I wouldnt have it any other way. I feel though I should train a bomber and assist in the only way I know how Explosions. Oh and AFK cloak in VFK such that no one will undock Then there wont be tidi \ / you don't need to do that, people already outright camp vfk
look at at the cyno beacon, for example... ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
760
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Posted - 2013.12.26 23:43:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:
This is genuinely hilarious, not because you're a whiny little mission runner with no thought or care for anything other than your ISK/hr, but because you may have inadvertently solved several problems at once:
I believe I will forward your suggestion without the narrowminded self interest - to increase ALL DPS by the TiDi factor; after all if fleets in 10% TiDi did 10x as much damage, then fights would be over faster,
Yeah and then logi would become useless because you would alpha people in one server tick.
Stop flattering your ego by insulting mission runners and go help to finish the summer minutes instead ! G££ <= Me |
Samuel Moore Walton
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
36
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Posted - 2013.12.26 23:45:00 -
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Altrue wrote:Stop flattering your ego by insulting mission runners and go help to finish the summer minutes instead !
Do you really expect a politician to accomplish anything? =) |
Vidua Arte Album
State War Academy Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2013.12.27 00:39:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Vidua Arte Album wrote:What's the minimum amount to pay for a killmail of this guy, at best in one of his expensive ships? Talk to ACE Gunnery, the break-a-wish foundation, or the goon with 30 isoboxed catalysts. I wager going rate for a .5 gank would be ~500 mil or less if you find a group. (so please do it, I like the idea of hurting people for bad ideas. I did it until my ship died) Garnoo wrote:cant CCP simply unplug hisec so we can have a 4000 man battle in null without TiDi = problem solved :D If that happens I cant make all those DDA 2s and wardens and DC2s you guys are chugging Seriously keep it up, I like making money I got enlightened about it and realize now that all I did was fall for a troll, just like you all the other zombies. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
12937
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Posted - 2013.12.27 00:43:00 -
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Samuel Moore Walton wrote:Altrue wrote:Stop flattering your ego by insulting mission runners and go help to finish the summer minutes instead ! Do you really expect a politician to accomplish anything? =)
Who are you calling a politician?
And who was insulting mission runners? I'm one my self.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1953
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Posted - 2013.12.27 00:44:00 -
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Altrue wrote:Malcanis wrote:
This is genuinely hilarious, not because you're a whiny little mission runner with no thought or care for anything other than your ISK/hr, but because you may have inadvertently solved several problems at once:
I believe I will forward your suggestion without the narrowminded self interest - to increase ALL DPS by the TiDi factor; after all if fleets in 10% TiDi did 10x as much damage, then fights would be over faster,
Yeah and then logi would become useless because you would alpha people in one server tick. Stop flattering your ego by insulting mission runners and go help to finish the summer minutes instead !
Logi is pretty overpowered anyway, and CCP knows it.
They just can't mess with Logi output without screwing up Incursions, and they're not prepared for the sheer level of whine that would result from that. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
12937
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Posted - 2013.12.27 00:55:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Altrue wrote:Malcanis wrote:
This is genuinely hilarious, not because you're a whiny little mission runner with no thought or care for anything other than your ISK/hr, but because you may have inadvertently solved several problems at once:
I believe I will forward your suggestion without the narrowminded self interest - to increase ALL DPS by the TiDi factor; after all if fleets in 10% TiDi did 10x as much damage, then fights would be over faster,
Yeah and then logi would become useless because you would alpha people in one server tick. Stop flattering your ego by insulting mission runners and go help to finish the summer minutes instead ! Logi is pretty overpowered anyway
So is irony
nerf insincerity tbh
1 Kings 12:11
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5606
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Posted - 2013.12.27 01:01:00 -
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Vidua Arte Album wrote:NEONOVUS wrote:Vidua Arte Album wrote:What's the minimum amount to pay for a killmail of this guy, at best in one of his expensive ships? Talk to ACE Gunnery, the break-a-wish foundation, or the goon with 30 isoboxed catalysts. I wager going rate for a .5 gank would be ~500 mil or less if you find a group. (so please do it, I like the idea of hurting people for bad ideas. I did it until my ship died) Garnoo wrote:cant CCP simply unplug hisec so we can have a 4000 man battle in null without TiDi = problem solved :D If that happens I cant make all those DDA 2s and wardens and DC2s you guys are chugging Seriously keep it up, I like making money I got enlightened about it and realize now that all I did was fall for a troll, just like you all the other zombies. it's always a troll ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1804
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Posted - 2013.12.27 01:36:00 -
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even Malcanis gets baited by a Tom Gerard thread npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
324
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Posted - 2013.12.27 01:46:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Altrue wrote:Malcanis wrote:
This is genuinely hilarious, not because you're a whiny little mission runner with no thought or care for anything other than your ISK/hr, but because you may have inadvertently solved several problems at once:
I believe I will forward your suggestion without the narrowminded self interest - to increase ALL DPS by the TiDi factor; after all if fleets in 10% TiDi did 10x as much damage, then fights would be over faster,
Yeah and then logi would become useless because you would alpha people in one server tick. Stop flattering your ego by insulting mission runners and go help to finish the summer minutes instead ! Logi is pretty overpowered anyway, and CCP knows it. They just can't mess with Logi output
This is what ECM and neuts is for. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5606
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Posted - 2013.12.27 02:07:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Altrue wrote:Malcanis wrote:
This is genuinely hilarious, not because you're a whiny little mission runner with no thought or care for anything other than your ISK/hr, but because you may have inadvertently solved several problems at once:
I believe I will forward your suggestion without the narrowminded self interest - to increase ALL DPS by the TiDi factor; after all if fleets in 10% TiDi did 10x as much damage, then fights would be over faster,
Yeah and then logi would become useless because you would alpha people in one server tick. Stop flattering your ego by insulting mission runners and go help to finish the summer minutes instead ! Logi is pretty overpowered anyway, and CCP knows it. They just can't mess with Logi output This is what ECM and neuts is for. because of ... falcon ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
467
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Posted - 2013.12.27 03:55:00 -
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time is relative.. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
225
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Posted - 2013.12.27 04:57:00 -
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As a mission runner myself, I myself do not believe that all of Eve should only cater to the PVP crowd. That said, not everything needs to benefit PVE that doesn't already just because it benefits PVP. If anything, PVP has a higher priority in many respects than PVE in Eve. That's kind of the point of an MMO really, it's a game that is mainly structured around cooperative/competitive play whereby the interactivity is aimed at player-to-player interaction first with player-to-non-player interactivity secondary. PVE here in Eve is ment to support PVP playstyle, though there are already tons to PVE content that can be for many (like me) its own playstyle.
If TiDi bothers you that much, move...I know that sounds like **** answer, but people make it out to be a lot harder and complicated than it really is. There are more than 7k systems out there in known space alone, and there are undoubtedly a metric ass ton of systems without TiDi going on. You would be surprised at how many issues you might have you could solve easier and far sooner by realizing that some fixes and solutions don't require the dev's tweaking the game.
tl;dr
No. By this logic, Incursions shouldn't reduce bounty payout just because I'm not running them but an incursion is happening in the area I operate in. There are several other easier solutions to consider. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5712
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Posted - 2013.12.27 05:08:00 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:If TiDi bothers you that much, move...I know that sounds like **** answer, but people make it out to be a lot harder and complicated than it really is. There are more than 7k systems out there in known space alone that reminds me of miners ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1266
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Posted - 2013.12.27 06:19:00 -
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Solution is obvious, reduce L4 mission payouts to L1 then rework TIDI so that the performance never slows in nullsec and all the slowing gets redistributed to highsec. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2568
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Posted - 2013.12.27 06:27:00 -
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Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. Thread locked. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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