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AdmiraI Thrawn
Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.10 06:47:00 -
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Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49
n++[ 2011.11.10 06:00:00 ] Acwron > it is my alt n++[ 2011.11.10 06:00:07 ] Acwron > but it's better anyway n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:09 ] The Mittani > o7 n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:20 ] Acwron > o/ n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:24 ] Amara Jade > Hello The Mittani, thanks again for 3rd partying my erebus, found a nyx I'd like to buy if you're free n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:35 ] Acwron > If I get scammed by a CSM, will be a first wouldn't it? :) n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:44 ] The Mittani > Very well n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:54 ] The Mittani > what's the purchase price n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:06 ] Acwron > 20 bil n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:08 ] Amara Jade > 20b for fit w/100k fuel and bombers/fighters, right acw? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:15 ] Acwron > yea n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:20 ] The Mittani > My fee for these is usually 250m isk n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:21 ] Acwron > setele sebo also n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:32 ] Amara Jade > I get a discount because you sold my other ship right? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:39 ] Amara Jade > regardless I'm paying it n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:41 ] The Mittani > ahahaha no ;p n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:53 ] Amara Jade > oh fine (grumble) n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:59 ] The Mittani > if you're spending 20b and worrying about my fee, you've got problems ;p n++[ 2011.11.10 06:03:08 ] Amara Jade > i'll send 20b 250m once I get to the system n++[ 2011.11.10 06:03:36 ] The Mittani > ok, so amara's paying, who will be handing over the nyx? i see four of us in here n++[ 2011.11.10 06:03:40 ] Amara Jade > 11 jumps out n++[ 2011.11.10 06:06:20 ] Acwron > The Mittani you shouldn't be there also to check the fit and see if it's right? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:06:43 ] The Mittani > that's not how this usually works, no. i just hold the isk to ensure no one gets scammed n++[ 2011.11.10 06:07:14 ] The Mittani > basically the buyer sends me the isk, i confirm that the isk is there n++[ 2011.11.10 06:07:24 ] Acwron > well, abit different but I don't mind n++[ 2011.11.10 06:07:26 ] The Mittani > the seller hands over the ship, the buyer confirms that the ship is what he wanted n++[ 2011.11.10 06:07:41 ] Acwron > aye n++[ 2011.11.10 06:07:43 ] Acwron > np n++[ 2011.11.10 06:08:15 ] The Mittani > if both parties are happy I hand the isk over, and if someone tries something funny I return the isk to the buyer; if the buyer doesn't pay, obviously the seller doesn't hand over the ship n++[ 2011.11.10 06:08:16 ] Amara Jade > 5 jumps n++[ 2011.11.10 06:08:36 ] The Mittani > i might be half-afk, i'm playing some tanks right now n++[ 2011.11.10 06:09:24 ] Acwron > lol n++[ 2011.11.10 06:09:33 ] Amara Jade > invited thrawn to fleet so I can go to him (assume you are safespotted) n++[ 2011.11.10 06:10:00 ] Acwron > After you send the isk you can fleet me n++[ 2011.11.10 06:10:05 ] Amara Jade > sounds good n++[ 2011.11.10 06:10:18 ] Amara Jade > sending the isk now (3 jumps out) n++[ 2011.11.10 06:10:38 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > Mittani pls confirm so I can fleet Amara n++[ 2011.11.10 06:10:44 ] The Mittani > ugh i just started this round n++[ 2011.11.10 06:10:48 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > lol n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:01 ] The Mittani > confirmed, 20b 250m fee received n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:07 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > ok m8 n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:13 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > fleet me when u wanty n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:19 ] The Mittani > i assume 'morning mist' is your alt, amara n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:29 ] The Mittani > assuming some completely random person didn't send me 20b isk for the **** of it n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:37 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > ahahaha n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:39 ] Amara Jade > haha n++[ 2011.11.10 06:12:08 ] Amara Jade > 1.5 jumps out, how's local look? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:12:18 ] The Mittani > you should specify who's sending isk next time you do a super trade, just for future reference n++[ 2011.11.10 06:12:19 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > 10 in local, nothing on scan n++[ 2011.11.10 06:12:29 ] Amara Jade > okay n++[ 2011.11.10 06:12:33 ] The Mittani > back to tanks, let me know when the transfer takes place so I can confirm the sale n++[ 2011.11.10 06:12:44 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > in a min I guess n++[ 2011.11.10 06:13:00 ] Amara Jade > warping to hoth stargate now n++[ 2011.11.10 06:13:02 ] The Mittani > no rush, i'm on MY PANTHER II n++[ 2011.11.10 06:13:12 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > :D n++[ 2011.11.10 06:13:30 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > damn tanks, everybody plays it, I should too n++[ 2011.11.10 06:13:39 ] Amara Jade > warping to you n++[ 2011.11.10 06:13:45 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > ok m8 n++[ 2011.11.10 06:14:34 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I'm off the ship n++[ 2011.11.10 06:15:01 ] Amara Jade > confirmed in ship n++[ 2011.11.10 06:15:16 ] The Mittani > check the modules n++[ 2011.11.10 06:15:25 ] The Mittani > let me know everything's cool n++[ 2011.11.10 06:15:30 ] Amara Jade > getting to safe n++[ 2011.11.10 06:15:34 ] Amara Jade > fittings are good n++[ 2011.11.10 06:15:56 ] The Mittani > death2allsupercaps n++[ 2011.11.10 06:16:45 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > ok, so everything is cool n++[ 2011.11.10 06:16:52 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > awaiting for isk n++[ 2011.11.10 06:17:44 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > is it me or this is a scam? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:17:51 ] Amara Jade > where did he go? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:17:59 ] Amara Jade > one second maybe he disconnected n++[ 2011.11.10 06:18:02 ] Amara Jade > i'll evemail him n++[ 2011.11.10 06:18:03 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > well, you should know n++[ 2011.11.10 06:18:05 ] Amara Jade > please do the same n++[ 2011.11.10 06:18:58 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > He logged off n++[ 2011.11.10 06:19:39 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I think I just got scammed
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AdmiraI Thrawn
Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.10 06:48:00 -
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[ 2011.11.10 06:21:59 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > Amara, you there? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:22:52 ] Amara Jade > yeah sorry n++[ 2011.11.10 06:22:56 ] Amara Jade > trying to get ahold of him n++[ 2011.11.10 06:23:05 ] Amara Jade > tried evemailing from a neutral alt n++[ 2011.11.10 06:23:08 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > doesn't look good to me n++[ 2011.11.10 06:23:47 ] Amara Jade > if he doesn't send the isk by tomorrow i'll split the loss with you rather than you shouldering all of it n++[ 2011.11.10 06:24:00 ] Amara Jade > he didn't steal my erebus so why would he steal nyx money? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:24:19 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I dunno m8 but I just want my 20 bil n++[ 2011.11.10 06:24:38 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > you recommended him n++[ 2011.11.10 06:24:53 ] Amara Jade > well if I give it to you then I might be out 20b n++[ 2011.11.10 06:25:03 ] Amara Jade > I understand its partially my fault for recommending him n++[ 2011.11.10 06:25:06 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I'm already out of 20 bil n++[ 2011.11.10 06:25:09 ] Amara Jade > but I shouldn't have to shoulder all the loss n++[ 2011.11.10 06:25:15 ] Amara Jade > how about 25/75 n++[ 2011.11.10 06:25:47 ] Amara Jade > i'll jump out of it once you send me 5b so I only lose 15b if he doesn't come back n++[ 2011.11.10 06:25:54 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > m8, it's your fault for this, I was perfectly fair and handed the ship with the fit and stuff n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:00 ] Amara Jade > I know n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:03 ] Amara Jade > and im really sorry n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:09 ] Amara Jade > but I don't want to lose 20b n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:11 ] Amara Jade > either n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:16 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > sorry is not enough m8 n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:19 ] Amara Jade > willing to eat 15b because I still think he'll come back n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:21 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I need the isk n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:52 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I will have you and him reported and post on forums with the convo's n++[ 2011.11.10 06:27:18 ] Amara Jade > hey, I didn't do anything wrong n++[ 2011.11.10 06:27:26 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I understand the scamming but this is far beyond the limit n++[ 2011.11.10 06:27:32 ] Amara Jade > he didn't steal big, I had no reason to believe he'd steal small n++[ 2011.11.10 06:27:44 ] Amara Jade > don't screw me over, i'm trying to work with you here n++[ 2011.11.10 06:27:47 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > is he really a CSM ? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:27:51 ] Amara Jade > yes n++[ 2011.11.10 06:28:03 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > why would he do this for then? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:28:25 ] Amara Jade > http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-05-eve-csm-chairman-breaks-the-peace n++[ 2011.11.10 06:28:34 ] Amara Jade > no idea n++[ 2011.11.10 06:28:39 ] Amara Jade > still think it was a connection problem n++[ 2011.11.10 06:29:00 ] Amara Jade > your choice if you want to wait for him or hold your ship and i'll wait for him n++[ 2011.11.10 06:29:19 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I can wait but this really looks like scam n++[ 2011.11.10 06:30:19 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I can't believe it's happening
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2008
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Posted - 2011.11.10 06:54:00 -
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Such shameful lies, such obviously faked logs. Tsk, tsk. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Covert Kitty
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.11.10 06:55:00 -
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lol |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics BRABODEN
418
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Posted - 2011.11.10 06:55:00 -
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Is it normal? Yes.
Should he be allowed to use his position as CSM head to imply a sort of legitimacy and aid in his scams? No. Not only is it lazy and effortless, it gives him an edge over other scammers. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
147
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Posted - 2011.11.10 06:56:00 -
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Not content to let just any old goon scam him, this guy goes straight to the top.
You've got style, I suppose. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2011.11.10 06:57:00 -
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In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani.
Just haven't figured out how.
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Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.10 06:58:00 -
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yes, "Goonswarm"
But especially if you are CCP https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722
My stance on WiS |
AdmiraI Thrawn
Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance
1
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Posted - 2011.11.10 06:58:00 -
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The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. |
DR SOL
The Strapons Swollen Starfish Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:00:00 -
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i can confirm that The Mittani is a scam artist , he once touched me in a private place and didn't pay me |
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Nemesis Factor
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:01:00 -
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AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me.
I can't imagine how you feel, I have never even seen 3 billion isk, but I would get sick to my stomach if I even lost one.
But I really don't see them fixing this. It's happened over and over, and is a legitimate part of the game. There is NO ONE you can trust implicitly in this game. If you understand that and believe it, you cannot honestly petition the scam.
Next time wait for Chribba to log in. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
244
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:01:00 -
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Quote:[ 2011.11.10 06:15:56 ] The Mittani > death2allsupercaps As soon as he wrote that, everyone should have known the jig was up. LOL! EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic |
Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:02:00 -
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Pfffffft hahahahaha. So YOU'RE the guy I've heard so much about! Who on earth buys a Nyx outside of contract? CCP will look at that petition and probably send Mittens a congratulations. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |
leviticus ander
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:03:00 -
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dude, he may be CSM. but he's still a goon. and I'm just come to the conclusion that they are just backstabbing bastards, and not to be trusted with the 1 trit that comes with a noob ship. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
147
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:03:00 -
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AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me.
The petition won't help, because he didn't break any rules. Sorry.
By the way, CSM are just players who communicate with the devs, not CCP employees bound by a code of ethics. They do have ingame restrictions, like following NDA and not trying to profit off future changes to the game. (For example, if Mittani knew that, say, Scrap Metal was suddenly going to be made to refine into Megacyte , and he bought up a **** ton of Scrap Metal to sell, he would get banned.)
Making a profit off overtrusting people with too much ISK however... that's fair game. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
147
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:04:00 -
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Lord Mandelor wrote:Pfffffft hahahahaha. So YOU'RE the guy I've heard so much about! Who on earth buys a Nyx outside of contract? CCP will look at that petition and probably send Mittens a congratulations.
Care to explain how you're going to get a Nyx into a contract if you can't dock with it? |
Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
366
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:04:00 -
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AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. Why would they reimburse you. You are allowed to scam people in this game.
There are no rules that say a CSM can not scam you. There are no rules that even say they they are trust worthy because they are a CSM then Scam you. Unless you can produce logs that has the Mittani saying "I can't scam you because I am not allowed as I work for CCP"(Not allowed to mislead people by pretending to be on CCP Staff) then there is nothing they can do.
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Kietay Ayari
Monopoly Money Operations
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:04:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:Is it normal? Yes.
Should he be allowed to use his position as CSM head to imply a sort of legitimacy and aid in his scams? No. Not only is it lazy and effortless, it gives him an edge over other scammers.
Why not? Doesn't anyone who is deemed reliable enough to be a third party use some kind of background to prove they are trustworthy? Metagame go! It does give him an edge, but it is something you have to work for to get ;D
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
244
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:05:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani.
Just haven't figured out how. It's all right here.
He's forcing CCPs hand. Forcing them to change the face of the game forever. Forcing them to carebear it up.
:)
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ACE McFACE
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
59
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:07:00 -
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Clearly fake, The Mittani doesnt say Pubbie once
Also: Theres been an influx of chat logs in GD recently ZE GOGGLES, ZEY DO NOTHING! (Not wearing them so don't waste your time reading this sig) |
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2010
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:08:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:Clearly fake, The Mittani doesnt say Pubbie once
Also: Theres been an influx of chat logs in GD recently
It's obviously fake because I would never say o7 without o7o7o7o7o77m8m8m8 for extra irony. I do not scam. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
45
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:08:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani.
Just haven't figured out how. It's all right here. He's forcing CCPs hand. Forcing them to change the face of the game forever. Forcing them to carebear it up. :)
Stop trying to turn a hysterical scam into a tinfoil hat thread, it's rude. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
244
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:09:00 -
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Lord Mandelor wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani.
Just haven't figured out how. It's all right here. He's forcing CCPs hand. Forcing them to change the face of the game forever. Forcing them to carebear it up. :) Stop trying to turn a hysterical scam into a tinfoil hat thread, it's rude. I put a damned smiley! :)
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WhyTry1
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:10:00 -
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CCP don't care...the allow csm To abuse their position - shameful
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=22324&find=unread |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
54
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:10:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani.
Just haven't figured out how. It's all right here. He's forcing CCPs hand. Forcing them to change the face of the game forever. Forcing them to carebear it up. :)
You must be kidding with that. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
148
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:10:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Lord Mandelor wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani.
Just haven't figured out how. It's all right here. He's forcing CCPs hand. Forcing them to change the face of the game forever. Forcing them to carebear it up. :) Stop trying to turn a hysterical scam into a tinfoil hat thread, it's rude. I put a damned smiley! :)
:)
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AdmiraI Thrawn
Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance
1
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:10:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:Clearly fake, The Mittani doesnt say Pubbie once
Also: Theres been an influx of chat logs in GD recently
I wrote a fake huge log quite fast, didn't I ? I hope CCP does something about it. |
Zirse
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
126
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:10:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani.
Just haven't figured out how. It's all right here. He's forcing CCPs hand. Forcing them to change the face of the game forever. Forcing them to carebear it up. :)
Stop linking your crappy blog already. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
244
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:11:00 -
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The Mittani wrote: I do not scam. Damned Anti-Chribba. GÇá GÇá GÇá GÇá GÇá
Butts!! -+ -+ -+ -+ -+ EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
153
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:13:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. Why would they reimburse you. You are allowed to scam people in this game. There are no rules that say a CSM can not scam you. There are no rules that even say they they are trust worthy because they are a CSM then Scam you. Unless you can produce logs that has the Mittani saying "I can't scam you because I am not allowed as I work for CCP"(Not allowed to mislead people by pretending to be on CCP Staff) then there is nothing they can do.
Hell theres no rule saying they even have to do whats good for EVE. But people THINK there is lol
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722
My stance on WiS |
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