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Gerald Sphinx
The Irukandji Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 04:22:00 -
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Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=160869&find=unread Forwarded to @HilmarVeigar (Twitter profile)
Kondor Pendragon wrote: Okay. I haven't posted the past couple of days. I've followed the news, all the rage, all the non-rage, and I've had time to gather my own thoughts as well. This "letter" will rationally explain my thoughts and feelings on the situation, as well as some suggestions about topics that I will touch on.
First off CCP, you've handled this whole situation terribly. The time of announcement was terrible. The where of the announcement was terrible. The mode of announcement was terrible. And the follow-up silence has not helped your case. To be completely honest, I don't know why these decisions were made, and frankly I don't care why. That's not an issue to me. From what I've heard, you should really take into consideration what your CPM and CSM suggest to you more, especially when it comes to relations with your community. As for the actual game of Legion? Cool game. I still like the concept. But the problem here is that you've sold your DUST players, especially the ones who play exclusively on consoles, Legion, but under a different name which seems to have now been chalked up as a failure to the point that you're making a brand new game. And it's not on the platform that your players play on. Despite the fact that you would have to work on building a largely new player base, this is just frustrating. And really, what makes it morally wrong is the fact that you've had these events that have pushed buying AURUM for Omega Boosters and whatnot leading up to this announcement that you must have known would be unpopular, with the knowledge that you are now making the game DUST players thought they were getting for the PC.
So now, the way I see it, you have a few different groups. You have the group of people who are at least mostly okay with this whole thing. These people tend to be the ones who played EVE or have some kind of computer that would be able to run this new game, if it's given the green light and becomes a thing that will for sure happen. That's group one. Group two are the people who think this is all a huge outrage, many of which are the forum warriors we know so well. And the problem that this group has with Legion is the fact that they probably won't be able to play the game that they were always supposed to get, because either 1) they will not get a PC because they game on a console and that's all they play on, or 2) have the inability to get a PC that would be able to run the game due to time or money constraints, or other circumstances. This is the most vocal group we've seen on the forums, and they fully have the right to be as outraged as they are, because the time and money they invested in DUST is going to be put toward the product they were supposed to receive but will no longer be able to. And group number three consists of people who are on the fence. They either have a PC and can run the game, or have the ability to get one to play your game. However, their problems include worries about what happens to the time, money and effort they put into DUST when it comes to Legion. Also, they might be worried about the morality and trustworthiness of CCP now. That's group three and frankly, you'll need to put some effort into winning them over and convincing them to invest into Legion now. I, myself, fall into this group three.
So as a member of the "on-the-fence" group, there are some things I think would be a good idea for CCP to do in order to smooth some things over with the players, both the ones who might play Legion and those who won't but are still hurt. These things include the following:
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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
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Posted - 2014.05.05 04:52:00 -
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It has been already stated by devs that all the the stuff on dust characters will be moved to legion as well. I'm only sceptical if they move SP and skills as it is but vanity items and such should be a no brainer. |
Gerald Sphinx
The Irukandji Ineluctable.
65
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Posted - 2014.05.05 05:13:00 -
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Baneken wrote:It has been already stated by devs that all the the stuff on dust characters will be moved to legion as well. I'm only sceptical if they move SP and skills as it is but vanity items and such should be a no brainer.
Please keep in mind that after the whole shenanigan with the Dust keynote many Dust players have lost what little trust they had left with CCP. So even if CCP is truly honest about being able to port over character data from the PS3 to the PC, it's not going to be enough to win back their trust. At least for the 2nd group that Kondor mentioned. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:34:00 -
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I dont see a radical change in amount of people playing on the DUST server. When will they start leaving? When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues.
http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif |
Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:39:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:I dont see a radical change in amount of people playing on the DUST server. When will they start leaving?
SoonGäó!
Most people I know are burning through billions of ISK and officer weapons they have accumalated. Once they burn through it they will quit dust and/or biomass.
I for one deleted Dust, biomassed my characters and cancelled my subs.
Also be carefull for what you wish for because you might just get it !
ROFL! |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
245
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:56:00 -
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Well because dust has 0 impact on EVE we EVE players don't simply give a damn. It's not like dust is a goose laying golden eggs either so CCP doesn't care about your childish tantrums either.
Biomass your dust toon with your meaningless wealth all you want we couldn't care less and I will care equally as little if you leave EVE as well. |
Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:59:00 -
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Baneken wrote:Well because dust has 0 impact on EVE we EVE players don't simply give a damn. It's not like dust is a goose laying golden eggs either so CCP doesn't care about your childish tantrums either.
Biomass your dust toon with your meaningless wealth all you want we couldn't care less and I will care equally as little if you leave EVE as well.
Who are you?
Wait!
GOML! |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
245
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Posted - 2014.05.05 16:19:00 -
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Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:Baneken wrote:Well because dust has 0 impact on EVE we EVE players don't simply give a damn. It's not like dust is a goose laying golden eggs either so CCP doesn't care about your childish tantrums either.
Biomass your dust toon with your meaningless wealth all you want we couldn't care less and I will care equally as little if you leave EVE as well. Who are you? Wait! GOML!
Same back at you. |
Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
18
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Posted - 2014.05.05 16:39:00 -
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Baneken wrote:Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:Baneken wrote:Well because dust has 0 impact on EVE we EVE players don't simply give a damn. It's not like dust is a goose laying golden eggs either so CCP doesn't care about your childish tantrums either.
Biomass your dust toon with your meaningless wealth all you want we couldn't care less and I will care equally as little if you leave EVE as well. Who are you? Wait! GOML! Same back at you.
Wait! Not clever enough to come up with your own insults? Daaaaawwwwwww! |
Gerald Sphinx
The Irukandji Ineluctable.
65
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Posted - 2014.05.05 17:46:00 -
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Baneken wrote:Well because dust has 0 impact on EVE we EVE players don't simply give a damn. It's not like dust is a goose laying golden eggs either so CCP doesn't care about your childish tantrums either.
Biomass your dust toon with your meaningless wealth all you want we couldn't care less and I will care equally as little if you leave EVE as well.
Excuse me but was that comment actually aimed at me? If you bothered to read the thread that I linked, you will see that I won't biomass simply because I'm expecting CCP to transfer at least some of my investment from the PS3 over to the PC. And no, I will not be leaving Eve either. Where the frakk did you get that idea?
PS: I'm Maken Tosch, just so you know. |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 17:46:00 -
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Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:Baneken wrote:Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:Baneken wrote:Well because dust has 0 impact on EVE we EVE players don't simply give a damn. It's not like dust is a goose laying golden eggs either so CCP doesn't care about your childish tantrums either.
Biomass your dust toon with your meaningless wealth all you want we couldn't care less and I will care equally as little if you leave EVE as well. Who are you? Wait! GOML! Same back at you. Wait! Not clever enough to come up with your own insults? Daaaaawwwwwww! no, you lack the prerequisite to insult properly so hes running with something he knows you will understand. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á Soylent Green Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
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Posted - 2014.05.05 17:57:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:no, you lack the prerequisite to insult properly so hes running with something he knows you will understand.
Yeeeeuuuuupppppp! Special eds sometimes need mouthpieces to parrot their inner feelings. Now I know what you do for a living. Q_Q Moar! -> \_/ |
Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
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Posted - 2014.05.05 18:01:00 -
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Gerald Sphinx wrote:Baneken wrote:Well because dust has 0 impact on EVE we EVE players don't simply give a damn. It's not like dust is a goose laying golden eggs either so CCP doesn't care about your childish tantrums either.
Biomass your dust toon with your meaningless wealth all you want we couldn't care less and I will care equally as little if you leave EVE as well. Excuse me but was that comment actually aimed at me? If you bothered to read the thread that I linked, you will see that I won't biomass simply because I'm expecting CCP to transfer at least some of my investment from the PS3 over to the PC. And no, I will not be leaving Eve either. Where the frakk did you get that idea? PS: I'm Maken Tosch, just so you know.
Nope! That was directed towards me. The widdle bah bah doesnt know how to quote! |
mkint
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:14:00 -
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Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:no, you lack the prerequisite to insult properly so hes running with something he knows you will understand. Yeeeeuuuuupppppp! Special eds sometimes need mouthpieces to parrot their inner feelings. Now I know what you do for a living. Q_Q Moar! -> \_/ Says the child who thinks linking a youtube video is the pinnacle of wit? Maxim 34: If you're leaving scorch-marks, you need a bigger gun. |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
677
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Posted - 2014.05.07 12:41:00 -
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Only now, DUST bunny, do you truly understand what it is to be an EVE player.
We do not play EVE because we like CCP.
We hate CCP.
With every fiber of our beings. It oozes from our pores.
And CCP hates us back.
Welcome to the family. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Gerald Sphinx
The Irukandji Ineluctable.
66
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Posted - 2014.05.08 00:15:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Only now, DUST bunny, do you truly understand what it is to be an EVE player.
We do not play EVE because we like CCP.
We hate CCP.
With every fiber of our beings. It oozes from our pores.
And CCP hates us back.
Welcome to the family.
Sounds like something coming out of Grim Tales from Down Below. |
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