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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11386
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:43:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:I've never understood ganking miners, personally. mining ships are fit with things that aren't very lucrative when they drop and the tears are no different than anyone else's.
i get ganking mission runners in their blinged out ships, or freighters carrying too much cargo... but miners? ok. unless miner tears cure cancer or something...
Ganking miners on an industrial scale used to make a fair profit on investment. With the barge buffs this lessoned but by that pointwe had moved on to the much more profitable frieghter ganking. An activity that is about the get even more profitable and easy I might add. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2261
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:50:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Dreadchain wrote:Dave Stark wrote:I've never understood ganking miners, personally. mining ships are fit with things that aren't very lucrative when they drop and the tears are no different than anyone else's. Oh, but miner tears ARE much better. About 1 out of 3 miners will throw profanities at you, and maybe 1 in 20 will call real life death threats. The latter is a bit intimidating on the occasion, but mostly they are a hilarious read. i guess i don't have the patience to wait around for them to get back to their keyboards to send me hate mail. *shrug*
You're doing it wrong then, miner ganking is for when you are in a dry spell with awoxing and you do it in bulk for the best variety of hilarious mails. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
156
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:53:00 -
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*sips orange juice* |
Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
156
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:54:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Tar'z wrote:While I do not object to that in itself, I always wondered why miners got the brunt end of it while mission runners, haulers, PIers, manufacturers, and scores of other AFK income activities are largely ignored. Principle of least resistance. Miners are sitting out in space, without any accelleration gates (missions), without being on-grid for just a few seconds a week (PI), without being docked 99% of the time (manufacturing). They get the brunt end because they are so available most of the time and cost the least effort to gank. It's the lowest hanging fruit on the victim side, for the lowest hanging fruit on the ganker side. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9661
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:55:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote:*sips orange juice* When I was a teenager I posted on this forum that's now long dead. I had a thing for a while where if I had nothing to say on a topic I'd post a picture of a rubber duck. The same picture each time. You remind me of that. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
156
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:01:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Solecist Project's Alt wrote:*sips orange juice* When I was a teenager I posted on this forum that's now long dead. I had a thing for a while where if I had nothing to say on a topic I'd post a picture of a rubber duck. The same picture each time. You remind me of that. Hahahahahaha xD
Unlike you though, I really sip what I am writing. It means I'm reading the thread. Sometimes it also means that I'm reporting the **** out of somebody.
I think there's a roleplaying side that started to shine through.
I guess it makes no sense, but it doesn't really hurt. :) |
Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
186
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:06:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote:Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Tar'z wrote:While I do not object to that in itself, I always wondered why miners got the brunt end of it while mission runners, haulers, PIers, manufacturers, and scores of other AFK income activities are largely ignored. Principle of least resistance. Miners are sitting out in space, without any accelleration gates (missions), without being on-grid for just a few seconds a week (PI), without being docked 99% of the time (manufacturing). They get the brunt end because they are so available most of the time and cost the least effort to gank. It's the lowest hanging fruit on the victim side, for the lowest hanging fruit on the ganker side.
Not even slightly true, in fact if logic values were cyclical your statement would be so false as to approach truth.
Tell me again about how every playstyle you dont engage in "doesn't require any effort" and everyone who does it needs to die in a fire. Be sure to mention about how you tried it once but it was too easy/boring/ethnic-homophobic slur.-á |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1982
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:19:00 -
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Confirming that The New Order and CODE. come off as 12 year old white kids trying to act gangsta.
Seriously, that analogy pretty much sums up the image I have of them. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2353
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:25:00 -
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I believe folk should do whatever they want in the game, but I do remember when I first came to Eve, ganking miners was considered by 'real pvp' folk to be the lowest of the low.
Still, fashions change I suppose. This is not a signature. |
Dave Stark
5424
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:27:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: An activity that is about the get even more profitable and easy I might add. they were warned about wanting fitting slots on freighters. |
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2353
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:28:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Like everything in Eve... it ebb and flows. People get bored of certain types of activities, move on to other things. It'll cycle around again to miners getting harassed again eventually as the hot topic. Besides, it still happens, just people don't make that big of a deal out of it anymore like they used to. Just give it a while... you'll see The New Order in the forums again, spouting how virtuous and wonderful they are when they realize no one is paying them much attention these days.
...these days.
Did anyone apart form their alts ever pay them any heed? This is not a signature. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2353
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:31:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:an npc character claiming he has a spy alt
lawl
A goon claiming they do not have NPC alts to move stuff in and out of Jita.
Lawl. This is not a signature. |
Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
157
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:43:00 -
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Dr0000 Maulerant wrote:Solecist Project's Alt wrote:Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Tar'z wrote:While I do not object to that in itself, I always wondered why miners got the brunt end of it while mission runners, haulers, PIers, manufacturers, and scores of other AFK income activities are largely ignored. Principle of least resistance. Miners are sitting out in space, without any accelleration gates (missions), without being on-grid for just a few seconds a week (PI), without being docked 99% of the time (manufacturing). They get the brunt end because they are so available most of the time and cost the least effort to gank. It's the lowest hanging fruit on the victim side, for the lowest hanging fruit on the ganker side. Not even slightly true, in fact if logic values were cyclical your statement would be so false as to approach truth. Too bad you have no idea what I actually wrote.
Want me to explain it in a way even you understand it? :)
*noms chocolate* |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4032
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:45:00 -
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When has anything in EvE been "cool"? "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Miichael Epic
Event Horizion Syndicate
27
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:17:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:When has anything in EvE been "cool"?
Those fireworks were pretty rad lol |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4033
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:22:00 -
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Miichael Epic wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:When has anything in EvE been "cool"? Those fireworks were pretty rad lol
True, they were mondo crucial "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
611
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:27:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:I've never understood ganking miners, personally. mining ships are fit with things that aren't very lucrative when they drop and the tears are no different than anyone else's.
i get ganking mission runners in their blinged out ships, or freighters carrying too much cargo... but miners? ok. unless miner tears cure cancer or something... The only Substantiated tears to cure cancer are those from Chuck Norris. Too bad he NEVER cries. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4033
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:54:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Dave Stark wrote:I've never understood ganking miners, personally. mining ships are fit with things that aren't very lucrative when they drop and the tears are no different than anyone else's.
i get ganking mission runners in their blinged out ships, or freighters carrying too much cargo... but miners? ok. unless miner tears cure cancer or something... The only Substantiated tears to cure cancer are those from Chuck Norris. Too bad he NEVER cries.
He does when Vladimir Putin punches him "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2190
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:57:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote:Dr0000 Maulerant wrote:(stuff)
Too bad you have no idea what I actually wrote. Want me to explain it in a way even you understand it? :) *noms chocolate*
Please don't -- I just got popcorn
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
194
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:26:00 -
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Kristalll wrote:Zappity wrote:It's just the rhetoric around it that is becoming stale. Well, we would hope the miners would eventually adapt to do something to make content. And to OPs question of why miners get the brunt of it whiel there are others afk out there: miners just sit in an easily warpable location and do nothing. The amount of effort in finding a miner capable of being ganked is astronomically low.
by content you mean a miner gets on his pvp ship for revenge only to find the ganker 100% safed up in a station thanks to ccps welfare protection? that kinda content? |
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11386
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:30:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:baltec1 wrote: An activity that is about the get even more profitable and easy I might add. they were warned about wanting fitting slots on freighters.
I warned them
Now they suffer Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2354
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:44:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dave Stark wrote:baltec1 wrote: An activity that is about the get even more profitable and easy I might add. they were warned about wanting fitting slots on freighters. I warned them Now they suffer
The ego is stronk on this one. This is not a signature. |
Ashlar Maidstone
ImaNicePirate.com Real Alliance Such Relevance
68
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:44:00 -
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The subject matter to which I want to add my thoughts are;
1) I only been ganked I think twice in my entire capsuleer career.
2) I have a keen eye on local, especially if it's someone that pods me, the result is getting the Kill Rights Activated for revenge.
3) The miners (including me) perform an absolutly nessasary function in industry to which we get our ships, fittings and so on
4) without miners, where would we be today.
I am going to excersise my right to call out James 315 as a primary example of a ganker. However does he not know where he gets his shiny ships so he or anyone for that matter, can go out into the belts, anomalities and just up and shoot somebody for no good reason at all?? Doesn't anybody even care at all as to where YOU even think about the hard work miners put in per day??
We had a lot of discussions on these forums about "miner tears", about gank fests that some are so bragging and boasting about, sure I'd do the same thing if I wanted too and maybe I will in nulsec one day. But, I remember all those times even on an old account, of being war decced, for a week which drove me in the ground from mining then.
The jist of the matter is this, when there comes a point and time, and when there comes irregardlessnof who, mining will change of course and industry too. The writing is on the wall. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9665
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:44:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Weaselior wrote:an npc character claiming he has a spy alt
lawl A goon claiming they do not have NPC alts to move stuff in and out of Jita. Lawl. Where? "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1782
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:48:00 -
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"... there are miners in this game ?"
"HTFU ! " -á--- -áKatee Sackhoff, aka "The F-Bomb Queen of EVE" ! !-á
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GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
118
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:49:00 -
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The CODE idiots and Jimmy457 (or whatever his name is) will be back from the fat camp their moms shipped them off to in a couple of months. Fatter than ever I might add. |
Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
161
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:49:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dave Stark wrote:baltec1 wrote: An activity that is about the get even more profitable and easy I might add. they were warned about wanting fitting slots on freighters. I warned them Now they suffer It's always that way! lol
Almost every time the whiners ask for something, it comes back to haunt them.
It'll never end. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4033
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:52:00 -
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GreasyCarl Semah wrote:The CODE idiots and Jimmy457 (or whatever his name is) will be back from the fat camp their moms shipped them off to in a couple of months. Fatter than ever I might add. *snerk*
Did that make you feel better, Greasy?
Go on, tell us it did "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11389
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:52:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
The ego is stronk on this one.
Simply stating a fact. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
161
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:53:00 -
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Tenchi Sal wrote:Kristalll wrote:Zappity wrote:It's just the rhetoric around it that is becoming stale. Well, we would hope the miners would eventually adapt to do something to make content. And to OPs question of why miners get the brunt of it whiel there are others afk out there: miners just sit in an easily warpable location and do nothing. The amount of effort in finding a miner capable of being ganked is astronomically low. by content you mean a miner gets on his pvp ship for revenge only to find the ganker 100% safed up in a station thanks to ccps welfare protection? that kinda content? I agree.
GCC pods in highsec shouldn't be able to dock up for the whole 15min. Would make it more fun for everyone involved, except the no-effort crowd that should get removed anyway.
Hell, I wished there was a way to make outlaws incapable of hiding in stations until they strike, but there's no sane way to do that without ruining the whole gamestyle.
Tbh, I wished they weren't such carebears, then there would be less issues. |
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