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Janice Roger
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Posted - 2003.10.06 11:56:00 -
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You guys have effectivly ruined this game. The minority of the players are PvP. The Majority of the players want nothing to do with you. Corporations are folding right and left, cause there are NO new players comming into the game. It may have gotten good reveiws from the Magazines and t.v. shows. But word of mouth is a more powerful weapon.
"What do you think of Eve?"
"Lousy game spend all that time and effort, just to be killed by sombody."
"Its a waste of money..."
"Cant get anywhere in it..."
"All I ever done was mine..."
"Cant get any minerals to make things cause of the pirates..."
" Lost too many ships..."
These are responces from people I have talked to at Dragon Con in sept. Sure I have fired on other players, I have destroyed other ships, and I have Podkilled people. But I do not hold the game hostage by blocking the route to the minerals needed in the game. I do not steal from my corp mates...I do not buy a ship from E-bay...I dont even buy ISK from E-bay.
Will Eve ever see 10,000 players...no I think not. Will it last another year. Nope...Look in the stations look up the corporations see how many members....When is the last time you saw some of those corps out there....people are leaving the game faster then the replacement players are comming in.
I will stick around long enough to see the PvP corps start to get board with the game and laugh at them. Oh and yes this is an alt..just to let you all know.
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Fyrentennimar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 12:00:00 -
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ok cya,
Have fun with pacman
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2003.10.06 12:01:00 -
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eve has 15k+ players atleast, not all are power games so we might even be looking at more, so what if you lose a ship, thats what insurence is in the game fore, they even bosted it up to 3 weeks now, so i cant see what there is come plain abut realy, there are other ways of makeing mony in the game but mining just ask around.
bleh, bad troll go away
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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2003.10.06 12:19:00 -
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You guys have effectivly ruined this game. The minority of the players are PvP. The Majority of the players want nothing to do with you.
So stay in Empire space.no matter what you might think or say, it really is that simple.
If someone wanted to, they could travel through 0.0 all the time and virtually never lose a ship.Things like maps and local chat aren't there for nothing.
Lets look at the other side of the coin: Miners who never leave empire space, and make 2 million isk an hour *RISK FREE*
No other buisiness is this lucrative, and risk free.Pirates and fighters alike make ****, and things like convoy killing, agent missions are hardly worth it.
Mining needs a complete overhaul, it needs to be more than "Point, Click, Earn" . . lets make mining a bit more complicated, I'd like to see miners using their fuzzy little pastel noggings a bit more. 
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Valeria
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Posted - 2003.10.06 12:46:00 -
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LOL! Why do people insist on thinking PvP in this game is one ship doing the shooting, one ship doing the blowing-up. You are allowed to fight back you know. Blocking your mineral route you say? Well, how about killing them or atleast chasing them away so they don't block anymore? Or maybe you are one of the morons who thinks that Industrials should be safe to fly anywhere and that having Battleship escort is just silly?
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Archain
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Posted - 2003.10.06 12:47:00 -
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You guys have effectivly ruined this game.
We're sorry.
What was the point of this thread again? Good reviews from mags and T.V., bad word of mouth, PvP = minority, people leaving, E-bay, Eve lasting less than a year, or the fact that you are posting with an alt?
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2003.10.06 12:49:00 -
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Are we playing the same game?
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Mid General
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Posted - 2003.10.06 13:00:00 -
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Jeez, if you're that cut up about people in bigger ships stomping on you.....go get a bigger ship and go stomp on them!
You make it sound like PvP is some evil thrust upon. I find PvP the most exciting part of the game, even when I'm on the wrong end of it.
When was the last time an asteroid got your adrenalin racing....oh wait..;)
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2003.10.06 13:02:00 -
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Well as usual I would just like to say
CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.06 13:29:00 -
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I am so sorry that you feel that way, here this might help.
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2003.10.06 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Asmodia on 06/10/2003 13:35:34
So what you mean is that we change EVE in a total economic simulation. NPC hunting is also dangerous you can lose your ship. Lets change it to NPC mining. A rats apaers and to nead to turn on your npc mining laser and after a minute u have an item or more in the cargo hold.
really cool idea.
and missles are only used as fireworks without damage for corp events.......
mining needs really, improved the people become dizzy in head. sorry to say that
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slothe
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Posted - 2003.10.06 13:43:00 -
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give reaver your stuff, i want your cash
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Posted - 2003.10.06 14:37:00 -
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By sponsoring anti pirate corporations, the fights against pirates could be affordable and ongoing. Thus there would be less a threat of pirates and if you sponsor enough, your region could be pirate free.
Many corporations dont realize this, but if they would contribute to a anti pirate corporation we/they would have to spend less time mining/trading/PvE and therefor establish a secure region and grow experience more easy to give others in return a good and healthy enviroment to develop further in.
This can also be done vice versa: A corporation that wants a certain region having a weak market by killing the manufactors by pirates, could invest in pirates and cause that way to weaken the regional economics and creating demand in ships what can benefit a ship producer.
I know there are alot buts and if's but if you have a corporation that fights for you and gives you enough feedback and have good communications towards you, then you could have a win-win situation for both parties.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.06 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Luc Boye on 06/10/2003 14:42:55
What I don't understand is that there are a few pirate corps with a lots of members in BB (blackbirds) or other cruisers, and without that much cash (the golden days of m0o are over). We have few members who at best can afford a merlin 
There is at least 100 times more miners and lets say 30% of them have battleships, even more then 1 battleship.
On top of that you have uber-sentry guns, uber concord, and GM's.
Still people complain.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.06 14:46:00 -
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Oh and let's not forget the backstabbers, pirates attacking pirates while pretending to be in an alliance (*cough* SI *cough*).
What would take to make miners happy? An insta-pod button in bounties menu at station?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.06 15:03:00 -
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Sorry m'dear (to the head post in the thread) ... but the answer to getting sand kicked in your face is to do a charles atlas course. Doesn't work in reality of course, but works just fine in a game.
Pirates and illegals provide the scummy trash and sometimes (cheeky brigandry) needed to make 0.0 the dangerous, edgy, and exciting environment it needs to be.
Did you ever play Freelancer ... the microsoft "elite-beater" ... what a load of rubbish that was. Scripted missions ... identikit ships ... and literally 1000's upon 1000's of pointless no-threat pirates to irritate the hell out of you by interrupting trade runs and mission jaunts.
What Eve has is named and dangerous illegals. I check local m'dear, I recognise names.
I know which groups are hard and which are poseurs ... I know which pirates will run from a battleship and which pirates will stay around and dispute the issue. I know which blockades I can run with a couple of MWD and which blockades I can't.
Its all valid in-game knowledge.
Complaining about PvP or sudden death is like signing up for a gold rush in the Yukon and then complaining about the bullies and scoundrels and the beasts that you find out on the frontier.
You need a gun. The old west pioneers did, so do you. And you need the smarts to not to get into situations where that gun won't do you any good at all.
Sorry for the rant,
But,
Effort makes isk .... Time makes skills. Skills reduce effort. Ergo ... unless you get podded with a basic clone you are never going backwards.
I disagree with most things Cao Cao says but hell do I agree with his sig.
"You are not your ship"
You really aren't
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SKiNNiEH
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Posted - 2003.10.06 15:46:00 -
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You guys have effectivly ruined this game. The minority of the players are PvP. The Majority of the players want nothing to do with you. Corporations are folding right and left, cause there are NO new players comming into the game.
I am also a bit worried about the flow of newbies in this game (not to mention the lag we have now, in systems such as Gehi), i must say.
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It may have gotten good reveiws from the Magazines and t.v. shows. But word of mouth is a more powerful weapon.
"What do you think of Eve?"
"Lousy game spend all that time and effort, just to be killed by sombody."
"Its a waste of money..."
"Cant get anywhere in it..."
"All I ever done was mine..."
"Cant get any minerals to make things cause of the pirates..."
" Lost too many ships..."
This is all due to the player itself... Losing a ship at a blockade is easily avoidable, mining all the time is your own fault too.. shoot some npc's for gods sake.
I do however feel that the base insurance should be free and always in place (the 3 weeks instead of one is a step in the right direction). Losing a ship is just too extreme right now... Most people dont have money to go shop for a similar ship as the one that got blown up. And getting a Velator with one unit of tritanium is just a big joke.
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Koda
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Posted - 2003.10.06 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Koda on 06/10/2003 15:51:06
I like the excitement the player pirates provide. A m8 and I were going to try to run a blockade just to see if we could pull it off.
You can't fear death in this game.
An understanding that you COULD die should lead you to insure your ship and clone. Once that's done, have at it.
If you get killed, get new stuff with insurance and go do it again.
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Kakalot
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Posted - 2003.10.06 17:06:00 -
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"But I do not hold the game hostage by blocking the route to the minerals needed in the game"
me think this is what he wanted to express the most  n u might say, let's go kill'em, eh? u're funny.
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Borghildar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 17:56:00 -
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What a bunch of crap! 
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:03:00 -
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EVE is not a braindead game of solitaire, it requires something from it's players. If you don't have what it takes, there are alot of other games.
For instance, there are multiuser dungeons that has no playerkilling whatsoever. Please go there instead of whining 'sploit and cohercing CCP to lower the standards.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Shogo
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Posted - 2003.10.06 19:05:00 -
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CCP has said from the beginning that this game alows PvP in cerain parts of the unverse. People who don't like that should stick in safe systems. I got shot by pirates myself lost a few ships and learned from the experience. Pirates are a part of eve just like miners, traders and builders. If there where no player pirates then having guns would be pointless in this game because.
The only pirates I don't like ar exploiters. So if you don't like PvP in a game start playing E&B.
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sphendar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 19:47:00 -
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EVE mimick RL in space, it seems that right now there is alot of instability in eve. Certian corps took advantage of that fact that most persons were not PvP, hence the extreme overpopulation of pirates. So if you dont like it you can join a antipirate organization and fight them off. Or if it is to much for you you can commit suside in eve by not playing. So either take up arms and quit whining about it or leave, as i dont think CCP is going to do anything more to help you. Personally i would take up arms and defend wot is yours.
DIE PIRATE SCUM YOUR TIME IS OVER
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.10.06 20:20:00 -
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You guys have effectivly ruined this game. The minority of the players are PvP. The Majority of the players want nothing to do with you. Corporations are folding right and left, cause there are NO new players comming into the game. It may have gotten good reveiws from the Magazines and t.v. shows. But word of mouth is a more powerful weapon.
"What do you think of Eve?"
"Lousy game spend all that time and effort, just to be killed by sombody."
"Its a waste of money..."
"Cant get anywhere in it..."
"All I ever done was mine..."
"Cant get any minerals to make things cause of the pirates..."
" Lost too many ships..."
These are responces from people I have talked to at Dragon Con in sept. Sure I have fired on other players, I have destroyed other ships, and I have Podkilled people. But I do not hold the game hostage by blocking the route to the minerals needed in the game. I do not steal from my corp mates...I do not buy a ship from E-bay...I dont even buy ISK from E-bay.
Will Eve ever see 10,000 players...no I think not. Will it last another year. Nope...Look in the stations look up the corporations see how many members....When is the last time you saw some of those corps out there....people are leaving the game faster then the replacement players are comming in.
I will stick around long enough to see the PvP corps start to get board with the game and laugh at them. Oh and yes this is an alt..just to let you all know.
Can I have your veldspar?
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McWatt
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Posted - 2003.10.06 20:28:00 -
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lol
there s a question i m seeking an answer to since quite some time now:
wtf do you think you d be doing in this game without PvP?
it makes no sense at all!
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2003.10.06 21:11:00 -
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I beleave the person said he/she has done some pvp...Am I wrong? I agree with her completly by the way. Your "gate camping" life should be a little more exciting then it is. Shure your big bad and tuff there, where the cops dont come, but it takes a real priate to attack at a belt....say in a .9---and live to tell about it And it takes a biger man to do it in a rifter Now that is being a pirate Come on give it a try, mothball that big ole flying junkpile of yours and come have some real fun
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.10.06 21:36:00 -
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"I'm fricken' tired of this Mr. Bigglesworth, i'd like put her in a burlap bag and beat her with reeds. Better yet i'd throw this chick into a pool of sharks with laser beams attached to thier foreheads. Throw me a fricken bone people! CCP put these boo hoo little girl threads on lockdown. ZIP IT! ZIP IT! ZIP! ZZZZIP! Zippitypa! Zippitypoowa! Zippylongstockings! ZIP IT!" - Dr. Evil
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Insane Angel
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Posted - 2003.10.06 21:38:00 -
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Plenty of corps give Rats alot of excitement at their camping spots. The thing is, alot of rats know the cost of the camp. And do not whine (not alot) about it.(exception, some former members of m3g4).
Their are corps that do provide escort services. As the man said a few replys ago, do not fear death, insure your ship, get a clone and have some fun.
As for trolling, the only trolling that SHOULD be done from time to time is on CCP fixes that dont fix anything.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2003.10.06 22:13:00 -
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"Lousy game spend all that time and effort, just to be killed by sombody."
That attitude is the problem, not the PvP folks. People are used to games where they just jaunt up to high levels without a challenge to speak of. They then play Eve and expect it to be the same, and are disappointed when it is not.
I know what someone is really saying with a statement like that: "Oh, God. I spent weeks mining to get into a battleship, and someone went and blew it up!"
If that's what you're thinking, then perhaps you need to think about this: If it takes you weeks to pay for your ship, you're flying the wrong ship. If you can't afford to replace your ship, you're flying the wrong ship.
This is something I've harped upon before. Eve is not like most games. As Mms Constantine points out, the pirates you run into in Eve often have actual human beings at the controls. Human beings with access to the same ships and equipment, who can think creatively instead of employing the same, predictable strategies. Defeating these pirates is not a given, like it is with other games.
Because of this, you need to consider replacement when you decide upon your chariot-of-choice. Instead of automatically going for the biggest, baddest ship you can possibly afford, think about what ship you can afford to lose. Seriously, folks. There are too many people running around in battleships who can't afford to replace them. Battleships! These things are supposed to be fielded by governments and major corporations! The idea that you should get yourself into one as soon as you possibly can is ludicrous.
Personally, I don't fly a ship unless I can afford to replace it. Preferably many times over.
I lost my Thorax a couple of weeks ago. If I had scratched my way into that Thorax with nothing to spare, I would have been devastated. I might have given up on the game. Instead, I waited until I could afford to replace it before buying it. Instead of having that "you've been screwed" feeling, I just flew my pod back home and started fitting out my spare Thorax. The simple fact that I flew a ship I could afford to lose turned that event from a disaster into an interesting learning experience.
Likewise, I've been podkilled in a Tristan by a Scorp-flying pirate. I was new and didn't yet understand what was going on until it happened. Frigates cost more at the time, but even still I was back in business for 400k. How long does it really take a dedicated miner to make 400k? An hour? Less?
Too many people think that you have to fly a battleship in order to stand a chance in this game. Not true. While there are hostiles in battleships, they can be defeated by "lesser" ships. Organize yourself! Get with some friends who also are in cheapo ships. Sure, you may not be the end-all be-all combat god in a tin-plated battleship, so compensate for it.
For instance: A Kestrel costs under 200k. This (for those of you who aren't familiar) is a Caldari missile frigate. It can be fitted with 4 M12 launchers. If you load them with heavy missiles you've got a potent ship. Flown in a wing of 3, carrying warp scramblers and webifiers, and you've got a serious battle force. Think of the thrill if the three of you, flying ships with a total equipped cost of under 1 million isk, take down a 90 million isk battleship. Or even a 4 million isk cruiser. And if you lose one (or all), they're only about 1/3 million isk, equipped.
All I'm really saying is to think realistically about the ship you're flying. If losing that ship depresses you to the extent that you don't want to play anymore, it's the wrong ship for you to fly.
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TIvian
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Posted - 2003.10.06 22:51:00 -
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Well Janice Roger...or who ever you are. you have done the one thing that NO ONE has been able to do....and that is bring enemies together in a peaceful manner to collectively
tell you to STFU and give us your stuff. And go play AsheronĘs Call or something where you are protected!!!!
Can someone PLEASE stop that baby from crying??????
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