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lordribble Auduin
Strategic Fighters Association
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Posted - 2014.11.11 17:24:39 -
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Black Pedro wrote:lordribble Auduin wrote: I agree with you 100%. I have never bought a permit. I shall never buy one. I have a small corp of miners on my alt that is anti code.we mine high sec ever day. So code shall not rule us. If we see code on roams I shoot on site and ask questions later.
I am curious, what questions do you typically ask after these incidents?
That all depends on the situation. |
Renegade Heart
Smack My Ship Up
269
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Posted - 2014.11.11 18:16:47 -
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Black Pedro wrote:It seems to me unlikely that the "fear" of having a single additional pilot gunning for them, above the dozens perhaps, hundreds of pilots that are already in a wardec with the CODE. alliance is of any consequence.
Take the 100s of carebearing players you are deciding to "fight" against and arrange them into a table, ordered by total number of kills per player so far in 2014.
Then, take the bottom 90% of those players and combine their total kills into a single figure.
I bet I have more kills so far this year on my own
Black Pedro wrote:Isn't it more logical and rational that those resources are better spent wardeccing a larger, non-compliant corporation, than squandered on the pointless wardec of single player corporation
If you want to get easy carebear kills then your plan of action is sensible. A war dec against me would be too hard for you guys to benefit from. I'd get more fun out of it. This is the real reason you don't want to dec me.
Black Pedro wrote:whose credentials as "a rebel" are dubious at best?
Does this mean I have your permission to haul my stuff without a permit? |
Tyr Sigmundr
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
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Posted - 2014.11.11 18:51:04 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote: Some sorts of bots we are cool with though. Like Hedonism Bots (I hope).
Confirming Haedonism Bot is the only legal Bot. |
Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
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Posted - 2014.11.11 20:01:42 -
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Thanks for all the replys everyone. It might have been easier to just decline my challenge and admit its harder and more expensive to try to fight botting then it is to shoot afk people.
As per request for actionable intell, and please dont take this the wrong way, I think all you need to do is UNDOCK!!!
You will find hi-sec space full of people breaking the rules you set forth for them to follow. Why do you need to create a thread asking for such specific target information when all you have to do is undock and take a look around? I'll bet you could find these people without leaving the system you're in. That guy sittin outside the station for the last hour.... probably afk. He is a target. This other guy in local using naughty langauge? We gotta keep it clean right? He is a target. Go get him. All these people running missions, incursions, salvaging, hauling and mining without permits? Non compliants. Get em. You know what the best part about all of this is? We're talkin about almost every other person you encounter in hi-sec. That has got to be the most target rich enviroment in the history of target rich enviroments.
With all these possible targets it leads me to wonder about the need for a "help us find people to blow up thread",or maybe this is really just another " hey look at us were still here" thread.
Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
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KaKaR0TT goku NINC
Gallente Federation Free Trade Union
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Posted - 2014.11.11 20:36:58 -
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Tyr Sigmundr wrote:Haedonism Bot wrote: Some sorts of bots we are cool with though. Like Hedonism Bots (I hope).
Confirming Haedonism Bot is the only legal Bot.
Maybe we should read Minerbumping.com's latest post. I believe we have someone on the site is pulling off Clint Eastwood Quotes. Dang, I wish I had bawls to find out who that guy is and give him "The Rebel's Salute" that's our version for the "Tip of the Hat."
http://imgur.com/0RVYKcD
BOB Yesterday, CODE Today, Freedom Tomorrow.
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
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Posted - 2014.11.11 21:56:22 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:Take the 100s of carebearing players you are deciding to "fight" against and arrange them into a table, ordered by total number of kills per player so far in 2014. Then, take the bottom 90% of those players and combine their total kills into a single figure. I bet I have more kills so far this year on my own If you want to get easy carebear kills then your plan of action is sensible. A war dec against me would be too hard for you guys to benefit from. I'd get more fun out of it. This is the real reason you don't want to dec me.
Tyyler DURden wrote:Thanks for all the replys everyone. It might have been easier to just decline my challenge and admit its harder and more expensive to try to fight botting then it is to shoot afk people.
Ok, I don't get where all the Space Bushido nonsense is coming from. The New Halaima Code of Conduct is not a document designed to produce "gud fights" all over highsec. The mission of the New Order is not to provide fair and balanced PvP to the denizens of our space, or respond to the "dares" of highsec miners. The New Order is in a war against the risk-adverse carebears of highsec, not honourable space samurais like yourselves.
Now, Renegade Heart, I appreciate your sentiments, but if you want to be seen as a fierce highsec PvPer, it is you that should take the initiative to find the ISK (or a sponsor) to wardec your target. Do you think, I don't know say Cannibal Kane, demeans himself by trying to goad his war targets into deccing him first? No, he does not. He pays the fee like a man and proceeds to turn his enemies into space dust.
And Tyyler, I get that you think that how the New Order operates isn't "challenging" enough, but really these appeals to some Space Bushido code of honour are quite silly on your part. It only serves to make you look butthurt. If you really want to affect change in the game start an organized effort to combat these fleets you dislike: sponsor something, either with your friends or corp, or if you lack the contacts, a more public contest. Put up a prize or something to help motive people - I am sure even some New Order gankers could be made interested if you can put aside your antipathy. Start an in-game channel, make a blog, do SOMETHING to get you closer to your desire of less multiboxers in ice belts, something other than childish taunting on the forums.
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Renegade Heart
Smack My Ship Up
270
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Posted - 2014.11.11 22:09:19 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Now, Renegade Heart, I appreciate your sentiments, but if you want to be seen as a fierce highsec PvPer, it is you that should take the initiative to find the ISK (or a sponsor) to wardec your target. Do you think, I don't know say Cannibal Kane, demeans himself by trying to goad his war targets into deccing him first? No, he does not. He pays the fee like a man and proceeds to turn his enemies into space dust.
I am not particularly bothered what I am seen as if I am honest with you. Just playing a game and having fun. Really though, the hauler permit thing, which you never responded about is something I find quite amusing. But mining and hauling are only two forms of PvP. There are others too. You have freighter wreck popping, ganker loot thievery, thrasher stalking, and I guess war dec allying to add to the list, and of course many other things!
It is certainly true that CODE provide great content to high sec |
Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
165
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Posted - 2014.11.11 22:15:10 -
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How do I report this post as repetitive? |
Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
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Posted - 2014.11.12 00:32:45 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:Take the 100s of carebearing players you are deciding to "fight" against and arrange them into a table, ordered by total number of kills per player so far in 2014. Then, take the bottom 90% of those players and combine their total kills into a single figure. I bet I have more kills so far this year on my own If you want to get easy carebear kills then your plan of action is sensible. A war dec against me would be too hard for you guys to benefit from. I'd get more fun out of it. This is the real reason you don't want to dec me. Tyyler DURden wrote:Thanks for all the replys everyone. It might have been easier to just decline my challenge and admit its harder and more expensive to try to fight botting then it is to shoot afk people. Ok, I don't get where all the Space Bushido nonsense is coming from. The New Halaima Code of Conduct is not a document designed to produce "gud fights" all over highsec. The mission of the New Order is not to provide fair and balanced PvP to the denizens of our space, or respond to the "dares" of highsec miners. The New Order is in a war against the risk-adverse carebears of highsec, not honourable space samurais like yourselves. Now, Renegade Heart, I appreciate your sentiments, but if you want to be seen as a fierce highsec PvPer, it is you that should take the initiative to find the ISK (or a sponsor) to wardec your target. Do you think, I don't know say Cannibal Kane, demeans himself by trying to goad his war targets into deccing him first? No, he does not. He pays the fee like a man and proceeds to turn his enemies into space dust. And Tyyler, I get that you think that how the New Order operates isn't "challenging" enough, but really these appeals to some Space Bushido code of honour are quite silly on your part. It only serves to make you look butthurt. If you really want to affect change in the game start an organized effort to combat these fleets you dislike: sponsor something, either with your friends or corp, or if you lack the contacts, a more public contest. Put up a prize or something to help motivate people - I am sure even some New Order gankers could be made interested if you can put aside your antipathy. Start an in-game channel, make a blog, do SOMETHING to get you closer to your desire of less multiboxers in ice belts, something other than childish taunting on the forums. Dude seriously, WTF are you talkin about? where is all the space bushido crap coming from? Or the stuff about affecting change? I make a couple posts calling out your inability to actually combat botting in a meaningfull way and that is what you come up with. I dont have issues with botters, multiboxers or the like, thats YOUR platform.
This thread was started by your people asking for help in finding targets to wardec. I suggested the botting fleets that can be found all over. What followed was a bunch of excuses of why you cant or wont combat the bots you so despise.
I eagerly await your responses and accusations of weird space honour and harbouring grudges against various demographics of the eve playerbase.
Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
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John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2014.11.12 05:02:26 -
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Dear CODE. wardec corporation,
This is what happens when you ask the forums anything. In the future, don't.
Hugs and kisses, John
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
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CODE Agent AC
The Conference Elite CODE.
722
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Posted - 2014.11.12 06:44:37 -
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John E Normus wrote:Dear CODE. wardec corporation,
This is what happens when you ask the forums anything. In the future, don't.
Hugs and kisses, John
Can I ask about where you misplaced your goggles?
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á
The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
1842
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Posted - 2014.11.12 07:06:01 -
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John E Normus wrote:Dear CODE. wardec corporation,
This is what happens when you ask John E Normus anything. In the future, don't.
Hugs and kisses, John
FYP.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CODE. is recruiting highsec PvPers for wardecs | New Order diplomat
"no one hates you, none of us care enough for that".
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
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Posted - 2014.11.12 09:40:10 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:It is certainly true that CODE provide great content to high sec
Well I am glad we could work all this out. I wish you the best in your highsec content generation escapades and am glad you are profiting from the high quality content that flows from the Code.
Tyyler DURden wrote:Dude seriously, WTF are you talkin about?
Now, Tyyler I don't even know where to start with you but I think where ever I chose, it would bring us even more off topic. So instead I will just suggest that you sit back, and let the tsunami of New Order emergent content that is sweeping through highsec wash over you like a gentle wave. Revel in the conflict, like our friend Ms. Heart, and try to put aside your preconceived notions of "honour" and "fairness". All non-compliants are fair game in New Order territory, so perhaps you have seen someone (other than generic multiboxing ice miners that you have been on about) violating the Code near you? If so, please get a message to the Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec, either directly or via their tipline as outlined in the OP.
If you see something people, say something. |
Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
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Posted - 2014.11.12 13:57:50 -
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Black Pedro wrote:We dont kill bots.Well, we did like once,but other then that we dont. We combat botters in another way, by blowing up virtually everyone else. Oh ok thanks Pedro, It took a while but we finally got that cleared up. I was afraid you were going to respond to my post again by going off on weird tangents about space honour and multiboxer angst. Perhaps you should take Johns advice and just let this thread go off to whereever tired old code threads go to die.
Hey I see there is another one started up already, maybe I'll see you over there.
Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
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Waltaratzor
Illegal Miner Removal Services
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Posted - 2014.11.13 03:49:16 -
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Black Pedro wrote:KaKaR0TT goku NINC wrote:Yes I got his alt kicked. You have been been watching CODE. for a long time. Perhaps someone should mention to James 315 the gaping hole in opsec that is minerbumping.com. If a newly-returned nullsec player can disrupt New Order activities by just reading a single minerbumping post, then just imagine the chaos that could result if all of the highsec rebels started pouring over the site looking for actionable intel.
And to think, our saviour has been encouraging them to read the blog the whole time.,
OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE WE DONE! |
Tear Jar
Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch
150
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Posted - 2014.11.13 04:07:34 -
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Alliria Seedspawn wrote:Steppa Musana wrote: ...The lack of wardec against PVP players not only supports the cowardly nature of the New Order but also supports the reasoned claim that they are griefers looking to enrage other players as a primary motive for their own entertainment.
The New Order of High Sec has no qualms with the PvP individuals in high sec, thus the lack of a need to target them. The New Order of High Sec is dedicated to the eradication of AFK "gameplay", which is most often seen by individuals that are mining, hauling, and missioning. When we engage those brave few that are willing to stand up and fight against us, where does it say that it's only a New Order of High Sec win if we destroy all of the enemy ships? The New Order of High Sec is bigger than any one pilot. It's bigger than any KDR, which is evidenced by our killboard. It's bigger than individual engagements with enemy combatants. When we, as Agents for the New Order of High Sec, get engaged by those that shoot back, we consider it a win regardless of which ships leave the battlefield. Win or lose by the value system of the small minded and egotistical sort that are obsessed with their own personal killboards, we sleep well at night knowing that the person in that other ship was not AFK. We sleep well knowing that we've helped to ensure one less bot in High Sec. We sleep well knowing that we've taken another step to ensure a better tomorrow for all!
I think this is why most white knight groups fall apart. CODE. agents aren't too bothered by miners setting up defensive groups and thwarting a gank. That just means we have managed to convince someone to pay attention and prepare for ganks.
But most of the white knights feel anything short of disbanding CODE. is a failure. They are united by hatred and get frustrated when CODE. keeps ganking. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
269
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Posted - 2014.11.13 04:15:51 -
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Tear Jar wrote:Alliria Seedspawn wrote:Steppa Musana wrote: ...The lack of wardec against PVP players not only supports the cowardly nature of the New Order but also supports the reasoned claim that they are griefers looking to enrage other players as a primary motive for their own entertainment.
The New Order of High Sec has no qualms with the PvP individuals in high sec, thus the lack of a need to target them. The New Order of High Sec is dedicated to the eradication of AFK "gameplay", which is most often seen by individuals that are mining, hauling, and missioning. When we engage those brave few that are willing to stand up and fight against us, where does it say that it's only a New Order of High Sec win if we destroy all of the enemy ships? The New Order of High Sec is bigger than any one pilot. It's bigger than any KDR, which is evidenced by our killboard. It's bigger than individual engagements with enemy combatants. When we, as Agents for the New Order of High Sec, get engaged by those that shoot back, we consider it a win regardless of which ships leave the battlefield. Win or lose by the value system of the small minded and egotistical sort that are obsessed with their own personal killboards, we sleep well at night knowing that the person in that other ship was not AFK. We sleep well knowing that we've helped to ensure one less bot in High Sec. We sleep well knowing that we've taken another step to ensure a better tomorrow for all! I think this is why most white knight groups fall apart. CODE. agents aren't too bothered by miners setting up defensive groups and thwarting a gank. That just means we have managed to convince someone to pay attention and prepare for ganks. But most of the white knights feel anything short of disbanding CODE. is a failure. They are united by hatred and get frustrated when CODE. keeps ganking.
Agreed, engaging in PvP with CODE is letting them win. I win by not doing that, instead calling out the griefing and real life harassment, and battling them on the forums, and also laughing at them for not being able to enforce their own CODE.
That's how you beat griefers - get the game changes to wipe out their playstyle. Buh-bye awoxxing. |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.11.13 07:52:13 -
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Quote:17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. Thread closed.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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