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Katlyn Koreth
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.27 23:40:51 -
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Loving this PI stuff..."spreadsheet in space," indeed! :D
After setting it all up, I figure I can make about 150 million a month between all the planets combined. My question is, how much better does it get in nullsec and lowsec? Can someone top a billion a month and plex their account?
What's the most you've heard of someone making in a month with PI? |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
3796
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:12:35 -
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It is significantly more lucrative outside highsec. The right wormhole PI setup might net you 1-1.2b per month (assuming you have all three characters in your account doing it).
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Katlyn Koreth
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.28 01:49:18 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:It is significantly more lucrative outside highsec. The right wormhole PI setup might net you 1-1.2b per month (assuming you have all three characters in your account doing it).
Ah I forgot about the other 2 slots! Figured since I cant train two I may as well just use one, but just because they cant train doesn't mean they cant do PI at the same time :) good point. Thanks. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
3799
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Posted - 2014.11.28 02:09:11 -
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Yeah you can't log two of them in at once or train two simultaneously, but you can definitely use all three characters to generate semi-passive income through PI, science slots, production slots and trade orders.
If you don't go with wormhole PI (which is lucrative but has significant logistical overheads) I recommend having your two PI alts set up in lowsec in the same region as trade hubs (so you might put one in Sharuveil, a Sinq Laison lowsec system for Dodixie access, and another in the Forge somewhere for Jita access).
That way if you want to buy something expensive that you don't need immediately you can buy it at whichever hub it's cheapest at, then have a useful idiot (public courier contractor) move it for you.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Katlyn Koreth
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.11.28 02:19:29 -
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So I set up two alts, train up all the necessary PI skills, then set up the planets and only log in to collect the products.. Got it.
Newb question...how do I move ISK (or items) between characters? :) |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
3800
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Posted - 2014.11.28 02:26:10 -
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Private contracts for items. Select all of the items, right click one, select 'Create Contract' and read everything carefully. These can transfer ISK too and IIRC cannot be done on a trial account. Don't screw up and give it to the wrong person.
For ISK alone, type the character name, highlight it, right click and choose 'select character' to create a link to your alt. CHECK THE PORTRAIT IS CORRECT. Then right click the link and 'give ISK'.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Shelby Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
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Posted - 2014.11.28 08:15:57 -
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Sabriz is on the money (as usual) with wormhole PI.
The logistical overheads can be prohibitive though if you're living there but there are ways to cut that, especially if you're 'sponsored'.
Fun story; I logged into my alt corp's hole one day and here's a hauler on scan warping between planets. Bit odd, but okay, so I caught him on the highsec static with a HIC and a convo ensued. Turns out he (and more than half dozen other pilots) had brought in cloaky, probe-fit haulers and had been running PI regularly and ferrying the produce out to highsec before logging off in the hole. Effectively ninja-PI'ing
I thought that was pretty cool so we ended up striking an agreement and I let these guys stay and do their PI thing. The (very small) tax was good for me, and the PI good for them. Win win really.
Poke around and maybe you can strike a similar deal somewhere. *cough*
Wormhole Intern | Baby Dusette | Doesn't even
CCP Eterne: "Naked avatars for PLEX." =ƒΖο
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Cherri Minoa
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
22
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Posted - 2014.11.28 11:50:04 -
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As far as null-sec is concerned, I use 3 characters... although none of them is maxed as yet. Once it is set up it takes me between 30 minutes and an hour each day in total, and it's worth around 750 million ISK per month. With max skills I would guess 300 million per character per month was easily achievable.
"If I had been censured every time I have run my ship, or fleets under my command, into great danger, I should have long ago been out of the Service" - Horatio Nelson
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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
387
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Posted - 2014.11.28 12:07:09 -
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I make about 25mil a day in WH so that would make about 750mil per month assuming I would really put my effort on constant baby sitting of my production planet.
To clarify I have 1 maxed out alt making mainly just PI with 5 planets and this main doing some basic harvesting with 2 planets. |
Katlyn Koreth
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.11.28 13:43:15 -
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Thanks all. Been having a lot of fun messing around with it in highsec, learning the mechanics before I move into new territory.
Best part about this game...no linear progression, nothing I "have" to do to advance. If I want to spend 4 hours tweaking some supply chains and routing materials back and forth to T1/T2 processors.. I can do it and it's totally okay :)
Now if I could find a corp that ran mining ops I would be in heaven lol |
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Azda Ja
Empyreal Shadow Vanguard
441
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Posted - 2014.11.28 14:23:07 -
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As an aside, if you do look for a corp that does mining Ops, make sure that they will defend themselves. You don't want to join a corp that will dock up or not log in at all if someone declares war on them. In my first 2 months we declared war on a mining corp that was harassing a friend. We got a few kills, then everyone logged off for the entirety of the war. It wasn't fun for us, and I doubt it was fun for them. You don't want to learn bad habits with people who don't defend themselves. Just wanted to draw your attention to that, good luck with your industry, o7.
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
204
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Posted - 2014.11.28 18:35:46 -
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Azda Ja wrote:You don't want to join a corp that will dock up or not log in at all if someone declares war on them. It's my impression that the majority of mining corps operate this way.
Mining corps try to stay under the radar to not attract attention from PVP corps. Therefore they don't do too much advertising - be careful of the ones that do. If you mine in an area notice the people and corps operating around you to see if there's anyone you'd like to try to join. There are also a couple of guys that write mining/industry blogs that recruit new players.
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Lord Battlestar
Faulcon de Lazy
192
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Posted - 2014.11.28 19:56:45 -
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Note that while you can't log into them at the same time, if you'd rather not stop training your main character you can buy multiple character training to finish your other characters on the same account. It isn't cheap but it can be handy if you have a more important skill plan for your main character.
I do PI on multiple characters and i make good isk with it.
I once podded myself by blowing a huge fart.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4334
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Posted - 2014.11.28 20:09:46 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Private contracts for items. Select all of the items, right click one, select 'Create Contract' and read everything carefully. These can transfer ISK too and IIRC cannot be done on a trial account. Don't screw up and give it to the wrong person.
For ISK alone, type the character name, highlight it, right click and choose 'select character' to create a link to your alt. CHECK THE PORTRAIT IS CORRECT. Then right click the link and 'give ISK'.
It's generally worth finding your characters, and adding them as contacts too cuts down on typing, and potential mistakes.
Woo! CSM 9!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Winter Archipelago
Thera Industries
300
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Posted - 2014.11.29 23:07:51 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Private contracts for items. Select all of the items, right click one, select 'Create Contract' and read everything carefully. These can transfer ISK too and IIRC cannot be done on a trial account. Don't screw up and give it to the wrong person.
For ISK alone, type the character name, highlight it, right click and choose 'select character' to create a link to your alt. CHECK THE PORTRAIT IS CORRECT. Then right click the link and 'give ISK'. It's generally worth finding your characters, and adding them as contacts too cuts down on typing, and potential mistakes. To add to this, anyone can create a private mailing list (create a mailing list, then set it so that only specific characters [your own] can join it). If you find yourself going to certain stations or locations often, looking at specific links often, want to quickly and easily share fits between your chars who aren't in the same corp (or are in an NPC corp), or anything else, really, you can put it in the Welcome mail, and all of your characters will have access to it.
I have one for things such as stations / systems, bases, my alts, links, a large number of fits, and the channels I frequent (because they occasional disappear on me for no reason).
Join the channel Thera Industries in-game for a general public channel for Thera-based industrialists.
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Yato Shihari
The TERRA Guardians of Serenity
4
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Posted - 2014.11.30 16:03:08 -
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With three characters in W-space I pull in 1.3-1.4bil a month. Two of them only have 5 of 6 planets as well. |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4889
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Posted - 2014.11.30 16:33:25 -
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Azda Ja wrote:As an aside, if you do look for a corp that does mining Ops, make sure that they will defend themselves. You don't want to join a corp that will dock up or not log in at all if someone declares war on them. In my first 2 months we declared war on a mining corp that was harassing a friend. We got a few kills, then everyone logged off for the entirety of the war. It wasn't fun for us, and I doubt it was fun for them. You don't want to learn bad habits with people who don't defend themselves. Just wanted to draw your attention to that, good luck with your industry, o7.
It was fun for them, as MOST likely they just played on alt characters...while you were "waiting" for them to log on
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4889
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Posted - 2014.11.30 16:36:17 -
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Shiloh Templeton wrote:Azda Ja wrote:You don't want to join a corp that will dock up or not log in at all if someone declares war on them. It's my impression that the majority of mining corps operate this way. Mining corps try to stay under the radar to not attract attention from PVP corps. Therefore they don't do too much advertising - be careful of the ones that do. If you mine in an area notice the people and corps operating around you to see if there's anyone you'd like to try to join. There are also a couple of guys that write mining/industry blogs that recruit new players.
This.
There are in general 2 types of mining corps:
A. The ones that keep their head down. They operate in space that few people visit and thus go unnoticed for the majority of the time. They don't / hardly recruit and when they do, they do it pretty damn good.
These mining corps hardly get any attention of PvP players as "nobody knows about them".
B The ones that operate next to Jita / (insert name of trade hub here) and openly recruit etc in .local / recruitment channel etc. etc.
These guys stand out...they are easy picking and thus will be under a near constant war or probability of war.
The trick as a miner, is to find a corp that falls under cat. A....
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
3829
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Posted - 2014.11.30 22:20:37 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Private contracts for items. Select all of the items, right click one, select 'Create Contract' and read everything carefully. These can transfer ISK too and IIRC cannot be done on a trial account. Don't screw up and give it to the wrong person.
For ISK alone, type the character name, highlight it, right click and choose 'select character' to create a link to your alt. CHECK THE PORTRAIT IS CORRECT. Then right click the link and 'give ISK'. It's generally worth finding your characters, and adding them as contacts too cuts down on typing, and potential mistakes.
My main alt (iPod Blues, the only alt that I'm open about being mine) has a name that is a subset of another character's name, and so the contract window always asks me to confirm 'do you mean iPod Blues or Ipod Blues' ?'
It's annoying. I had the name first, but the second character isn't trying to impersonate me or anything, and the name is cool enough that I'm happy to share it.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
3829
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Posted - 2014.11.30 22:22:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Shiloh Templeton wrote:Azda Ja wrote:You don't want to join a corp that will dock up or not log in at all if someone declares war on them. It's my impression that the majority of mining corps operate this way. Mining corps try to stay under the radar to not attract attention from PVP corps. Therefore they don't do too much advertising - be careful of the ones that do. If you mine in an area notice the people and corps operating around you to see if there's anyone you'd like to try to join. There are also a couple of guys that write mining/industry blogs that recruit new players. This. There are in general 2 types of mining corps: A. The ones that keep their head down. They operate in space that few people visit and thus go unnoticed for the majority of the time. They don't / hardly recruit and when they do, they do it pretty damn good. These mining corps hardly get any attention of PvP players as "nobody knows about them". B The ones that operate next to Jita / (insert name of trade hub here) and openly recruit etc in .local / recruitment channel etc. etc. These guys stand out...they are easy picking and thus will be under a near constant war or probability of war. The trick as a miner, is to find a corp that falls under cat. A....
This reminds me. It's been a long time since I've launched an attack on the mining fleets of my favorite highsec island, I need to scout the place out and spread some wardec love there.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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