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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.27 21:42:00 -
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This is a warning to all who wish to duel The Shadow Order.
My corpmate is rather ****ed and doesn't believe he can properly articulate to the local forum dwellers. So I'm here representing him.
My corpmate AOS Brendan was sitting in Sotrenzur being smacktalked by by The Shadow Order alliance members (TSOR for short) and he then challanged a person by the name of General Forest to a duel who was a member of TSOR. Brendans Thorax vs his Ferox. Fair enough right? Well General Forest kept refusing and wanted to fight brendan in his Raven instead.
Brendan declined at first, then TSOR went on talking about how pirates are dishonorable and they have corpmates jump in on duels and what not. Eventually brendan got fed up and said "fine" and the duel was on. Thorax vs Raven. A corpmate of mine was 75km from the fight but even if he wanted to intervene he couldn't because the fight was at the station and General Forest was not outlawed (brendan is).
So the fight started, and throughout the whole thing nobody from Black Fleet intervened. Brendans thorax eventually broke the ravens tank and almost breached into armor but then General Forest called in Landomar and some other dude named boikner or something like that. They popped Brendans thorax, thus dishonoring the duel. Do not trust these TSOR guys, they are all the same, I've never met one that was even the slightest bit honorable.
In light of their actions The Black Fleet and all surrounding allied pirate corporations are going to heavily increase their pirate activities versus TSOR and their close allies Ever Flow. I would encourage other pirates in the Heimatar area to do the same so as to send a clear message that this won't be tolerated.
TSOR's home system is Gultratren and Ever Flow's home system is Katugumur. ===============================================
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Shinjuro
Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.09.27 21:48:00 -
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I have no respect for people that accept 1v1 duels and then dishonor it. I wouldn't worry too much about it. If his rax could nearly own their raven, then they are complete noobs. But in their defence.. wtf were you doing dueling at a station?? Go to a SS next time.
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.27 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Scoundrelus on 27/09/2006 21:51:27
Originally by: Shinjuro I have no respect for people that accept 1v1 duels and then dishonor it. I wouldn't worry too much about it. If his rax could nearly own their raven, then they are complete noobs. But in their defence.. wtf were you doing dueling at a station?? Go to a SS next time.
Brendan isn't the brightest bulb in the box.
He has heart though. Gotta give him that. ===============================================
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Deja Thoris
Revelations Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.27 22:15:00 -
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It's ironic that their recruitment page has he following tidbits in it.
Our vision is to be the premier mature player corporation in EVE...
Core Values 2. Respect - We operate by the Golden Rule; treat others as you wish to be treated. We require our members to treat others with respect, decency and civility.
Recruiting You must be 21 years old to join the corp as we expect people to play maturely
If they really mean that then convo the CEO and try to get it sorted. Dishonouring 1v1's is neither mature nor honourable.
Originally by: Clementina
If you bug report it, you get ignored. If you post about it on the forums, you get banned. If you exploit it, you get rich.
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Ozzie Asrail
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.27 22:33:00 -
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In respect of the TSOR guys I have to say in my short time pirating around that area I ran into one smacktard who was prompty delt with by their ceo.
but yea, dishonoring 1v1's is pretty much the lowest you can go imho. -----
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Callistus
Gallente Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.27 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ozzie Asrail but yea, dishonoring 1v1's is pretty much the lowest you can go imho.
One step lower than losing a raven to a rax. --------------
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AOS brendan
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Posted - 2006.09.28 00:01:00 -
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yes losing a raven to a rax would be a humbling experience...lol
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EugirDor
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Posted - 2006.09.28 00:10:00 -
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An interesting accusation coming from a member of a "Pirate Coalition". While I personally do not care for pirates I will inquire on this.
Eugi
Note: No other response will be made by me on any forum.
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.28 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: EugirDor An interesting accusation coming from a member of a "Pirate Coalition". While I personally do not care for pirates I will inquire on this.
Eugi
Note: No other response will be made by me on any forum.
lol ===============================================
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Skoodwask
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Posted - 2006.09.28 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Skoodwask on 28/09/2006 00:28:01
Originally by: Deja Thoris
If they really mean that then convo the CEO and try to get it sorted. Dishonouring 1v1's is neither mature nor honourable.
Wrong It is in no way immature to Dishonour a 1v1. Unless your under the impression that all dishonourable people are immature. Which is quite wrong.
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Jebidus Skari
Amarr KTHNXDIE
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Posted - 2006.09.28 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Callistus
Originally by: Ozzie Asrail but yea, dishonoring 1v1's is pretty much the lowest you can go imho.
One step lower than losing a raven to a rax.
Just gets better and better
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Cheese Boy
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Posted - 2006.09.28 00:52:00 -
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Ok let me start by saying my in game name is Boliknar. I was in the afore mentioned fight. What the "honorable" pirates fail to mention is that in the middle of the 1V1 Kailaio undocked form the station in a HAC and targeted my corp mate. Being that the 1v1 was then violated ( a fact that was later admitted to by the esteemed CEO in a convo to the afore mentioned pilot) I warped in and targeted and fired upon the HAC pilot seeing that he was sitting within dock range of the station i switched the AOS Brendan and blew him up. This is simpily a matter of a pirate corps own tactics being used against them and now they are crying and whining about it. Another intresting fact is that during the middle of the battle long before we had warped in AOS typed in local no stay out this is a 1v1. Who was he talking to not us we had not even arrived. So as I said before just as soon as Kailaio undocked and locked the pilot the 1v1 was off. So grow up take your lumps like the "men" you proclaim to be and SHUT UP!!!
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Boliknar
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: Boliknar on 28/09/2006 01:02:39 I would also like to respond to the fact that scoundrelous states he has never met an honorable member of TSOR. Funny how a Pirates definition is simply that we should all just lay down and let him and his corp use whatever tactics they seem fit. I also find it funny that the whole post is written by the man who logged just as soon as there were even odds in the system. He was not there as to whether the thorax was beraking the ravens tank... I dont know I wasnt involved in the fight until after the 1v1 was broken by kailiao. I found it funny that Kailiao then posted that we had lost alot of respect and tried to play off he did not interfere. I say now what i said then... I dont really care if I am not respected by people I have no respect for myself.
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Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:12:00 -
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Disgusting.
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:28:00 -
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Edited by: Scoundrelus on 28/09/2006 01:27:54
Originally by: Cheese Boy Edited by: Cheese Boy on 28/09/2006 01:01:24 Ok let me start by saying my in game name is Boliknar. I was in the afore mentioned fight. What the "honorable" pirates fail to mention is that in the middle of the 1V1 Kailaio undocked form the station in a HAC and targeted my corp mate. Being that the 1v1 was then violated ( a fact that was later admitted to by the esteemed CEO in a convo to the afore mentioned pilot) I warped in and targeted and fired upon the HAC pilot seeing that he was sitting within dock range of the station i switched the AOS Brendan and blew him up. This is simpily a matter of a pirate corps own tactics being used against them and now they are crying and whining about it. Another intresting fact is that during the middle of the battle long before we had warped in AOS typed in local no stay out this is a 1v1. Who was he talking to not us we had not even arrived. So as I said before just as soon as Kailaio undocked and locked the pilot the 1v1 was off. So grow up take your lumps like the "men" you proclaim to be and SHUT UP!!!
Kail was in a Zealot at a station which means he could not fire, if you knew what you were talking about then you would know that a Zealot cannot tank sentries long enough to kill it. Secondly General Forest targetted him and he has autolock on so he got targetted back.
Our CEO knows little to nothing about the situation since he has been in 0.0 for a week NPCing.
Furthermore Kailio undocked just to watch, he was locked and no he did not get fired on. Want proof? Your all still alive. You honestly think that a 34 mil SP player in a Zealot wouldn't be able to wipe the floor with you if you fired on him? He undocked, he was locked and he autolocked back and just sat there and watched. Theres nothing he could have done when at the station.
Furthermore your own words betray you:
"Another intresting fact is that during the middle of the battle long before we had warped in AOS typed in local no stay out this is a 1v1."
So AOS Brendan clearly wanted a fair fight, and made it a point to even tell Kail in local. Had kail even assisted in the whole fight then sentries would have opened up on him. Kail wanted to watch, I can't blame him, its a duel who wouldnt want to watch?
So in conclusion, Kail undocked to watch the duel and we know he did not fire a single shot because of sentries. Even as you guys were pounding on him kail didn't do anything, why? Sentries. You can't lie about this because I've even had some TSOR people who dissaprove of your actions confirm both sides of the story and yes you dishonored the duel. Lying won't save you here and the whole "he's a pirate don't trust him!" argument also doesn't stand. ===============================================
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Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kirex on 28/09/2006 01:30:37 edit: Scoundrelus explained it better above. ;o
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Boliknar
I would also like to respond to the fact that scoundrelous states he has never met an honorable member of TSOR. Funny how a Pirates definition of honorable is simply that we should all just lay down and let him and his corp use whatever tactics they see fit. I also find it funny that the whole post is written by the man who logged just as soon as there were even odds in the system. He was not there as to whether the thorax was beraking the ravens tank... I dont know I wasnt involved in the fight until after the 1v1 was broken by kailiao. I found it funny that Kailiao then posted that we had lost alot of respect and tried to play off he did not interfere. I say now what i said then... I dont really care if I am not respected by people I have no respect for.
Ok start using paragraphs because my head is starting to hurt.
A pirate's definition of honorable is to ransom then realase. To honor 1 vs 1 duels. Killing a miner/NPCer in a belt is not dishonorable.
"I also find it funny that the whole post is written by the man who logged just as soon as there were even odds in the system."
If even odds are that 20 vs 2 you had in Eifer/Gusandall the other day then your perception of "even" is skewed.
He was not there as to whether the thorax was beraking the ravens tank
If the Raven's tank was holding up and the Zealot couldn't fire due to sentries then why did you warp in? ===============================================
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:37:00 -
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Disgusting.
Why is it that self-proclaimed "anti-pirates" dishonor duels more than pirates do?
-[23] Member-
Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON! |
AOS brendan
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:38:00 -
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incinerated
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Cammulos
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:38:00 -
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Honorable Piracy? What is this?!!
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AOS brendan
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:41:00 -
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where is general forest now?
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Cammulos Honorable Piracy? What is this?!!
Honorable piracy means doing what you say you'll do. No more, no less.
If a pirate says he'll let you go after you pay a ransom, and you pay, if he is honorable, he will let you go.
If a pirate has a 1v1 with you and he is honorable, he will not violate it.
A good pirate doesn't break his word. Not only is it disgusting, its bad for business.
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AOS brendan
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:46:00 -
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Amen
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Boliknar
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Posted - 2006.09.28 01:55:00 -
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Edited by: Boliknar on 28/09/2006 01:58:55 Edited by: Boliknar on 28/09/2006 01:58:12 Hmmm All I can say is you were not there and i was I have the logs. By the way your whole story is full of tatal inconsistancies . Kailiao is such a great player and has such great skills he would not have thought twice about tanking the sentries which he obviously could do with sucha large amount of SP. As soon as Kailiao locked GF which he did first regardless of what your saying, again I was there you were not the 1v1 was off. You i suppose were too busy logging off as soon as we entered system with even numbers, but thats besides the point, its come to be standard practice for you and your ilk. I said this in local and I will say it now..I was not there to make friends nor garner the respect of the those whom i dont respect. I was there support my corp mate. And in the process blow up as much of your stuff and make your Eve Playing life as much of a hell as I possibly can. The fact of the matter is Kailaio targeted GF during a 1v1 ( btw in doion research this is not the first time TBF has used this tactic). Seems they challenge people to 1v1 have a second ship target but not fire then when first ships friends arrive ***** and **** and moan on the forums in an attempt to discredit those corps that they cannot beat otherwise. Well i am done with this thread as I truely believe that pirates and those who play them do represent a microchasm of what is wrong with our society... Just remember you can tell alot about a persons true nature by the way they play a game... I can only assume that those who play pirates really are scum and represent a true evil.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.28 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 28/09/2006 02:06:03
Originally by: Boliknar The fact of the matter is Kailaio targeted GF during a 1v1
Wouldn't this be standard practice, to see the HP of the ships in a match?
I have yet to watch a 1v1 where people don't target the fighting ships.
Your excuse for violating a duel is ****-poor.
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Alekxys
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Posted - 2006.09.28 02:22:00 -
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SInce i started it was expressed to me very early that locking another player is considered an aggressive act. When it's a pirate locking you you would be foolish to assume he's just saying hi or being curious. IF you don't shoot right away, your a fool. I don't doubt that AOS Brendan wanted a 1on1 fight, but it appears to me that the actions of his corp mate violated his good intentions and were the only actions that should be considered dishonorable.
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flangpoo
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Posted - 2006.09.28 02:24:00 -
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Edited by: flangpoo on 28/09/2006 02:25:40 humm cant switch to my main for some reason,,,, but he is Crazyiven
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General Forest
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Posted - 2006.09.28 02:32:00 -
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Well about an hour later I fought another thorax the pilot is named Pojo, and Landomar and boliknar were there and didn't interfere. I was in ferox this time, not the raven. But you are correct, if they do not have favorable odds against them they do not fight.
GF
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.28 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: Scoundrelus on 28/09/2006 02:37:04 I'm done arguing with these fools, all they will do is lie. I'm sure people are intelligent enough to tell the difference between fact and fiction. I can keep easily pointing out lies and inconsistancies within their posts but frankly I'd get carpo tunnel I've said what I wanted to say, and they've dug deeper holes by posting their ridiculous nonesense.
Any member of Black Fleet who dishonors a ransom/1 vs 1 is forced to walk the plank. Walking the plank is jumping into or buying the most expensive ship you can fly and warping into a hostile POS. If they refuse we kill them. Dishonoring a ransom/1 vs 1 is the highest offence in Black Fleet and is met with pure force. ===============================================
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.28 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: General Forest Well about an hour later I fought another thorax the pilot is named Pojo, and Landomar and boliknar were there and didn't interfere. I was in ferox this time, not the raven. But you are correct, if they do not have favorable odds against them they do not fight.
GF
just because they didn't dishonor the duel later doesn't mean the first one was ok lol. And how is a thorax favorable odds against a raven. You're a retard lol
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