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Captain Mastiff
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Posted - 2011.12.04 02:00:00 -
[181] - Quote
You have my sword |
Amanda Midular
HYDRA RELOADED
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 03:36:00 -
[182] - Quote
To those of you who are doubting the sincerity of the artwork held in the logo, please continue reading, I will try to address this issue.
Abstract art is open to interpretation, and that is one of the beautiful things about it. It allows the viewer to use her own imagination to find meaning in what might superficially lack it. To find patterns where there are none. To let go of overused stagnated ideas. There is no fixed right or wrong way to look at art or understand it, but you need to keep an open mind to do so. This logo doesn't stand out and scream "this is what we're about", it leaves it open for the viewer to decide, to make up her own mind on what to become, in true spirit of a sandbox game. You can be anyone you want to be. It can be anything you want it to be. It is like clay to your mind.
Isaiah 64:8 "But now, O Lord, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you are our potter; we are all the work of your hand."
It is not as much about the subject as about the feeling it invokes. When I look at the Hydra Reloaded logo, I know in my heart that it represents more, much more, than first meets the eye. The fluid deep strokes caress my mind and leaves me in a state of awe.
One viewer of this artwork once described it to me like so: "It is a child! A young boy playfully blowing on his pinwheel!" This is what Hydra is about to that person, reinforcing that feeling of pristine happiness that so many "adults" seem to loose. To be able to realize dreams once long forgotten, ideas long lost. But this is only one person. You may find a different meaning. This is art.
Revelation 21:11 "Having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal"
I completely stand behind this wonderful piece of art, and believe it would be a fine addition to the current content of EVE Online, just as it already has been in the community for a long time. |
ScheenK
Constantine.
11
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Posted - 2011.12.04 04:17:00 -
[183] - Quote
im 100 percent on ccp's side here, ur logo is absolutely atrocious, it was made from the windows paint program, and you expect it to be in the same class as the other logos's in eve, sure goons have a bee but the bee isn't drawn by a 4 year old so go suck a d make a better logo |
Mercurial Blood
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
12
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Posted - 2011.12.04 04:45:00 -
[184] - Quote
ScheenK wrote:im 100 percent on ccp's side here, ur logo is absolutely atrocious, it was made from the windows paint program, and you expect it to be in the same class as the other logos's in eve, sure goons have a bee but the bee isn't drawn by a 4 year old so go suck a d make a better logo
But thats the whole thing, you cannot objectively JUDGE the logo because you are not in the position to do so! No one is! When you say "ur logo is absolutely atrodcious" that is just your subjective opinion on the logo. You may be confusing complexity and difficulty to draw for artistic or representational merit. Our logo may not be too difficult in that sense to draw, but that doesn't make it any worse; it also still represents us perfectly.
Also, I have a right mind to report you for trying to evade the profanity filter. Just count yourself lucky I'm in a good mood today! |
Igualmentedos
Shadow Veil Industrial Shadow Directive
67
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Posted - 2011.12.04 05:03:00 -
[185] - Quote
Amanda Midular wrote:To those of you who are doubting the sincerity of the artwork held in the logo, please continue reading, I will try to address this issue.
Abstract art is open to interpretation, and that is one of the beautiful things about it. It allows the viewer to use her own imagination to find meaning in what might superficially lack it. To find patterns where there are none. To let go of overused stagnated ideas. There is no fixed right or wrong way to look at art or understand it, but you need to keep an open mind to do so. This logo doesn't stand out and scream "this is what we're about", it leaves it open for the viewer to decide, to make up her own mind on what to become, in true spirit of a sandbox game. You can be anyone you want to be. It can be anything you want it to be. It is like clay to your mind.
Isaiah 64:8 "But now, O Lord, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you are our potter; we are all the work of your hand."
It is not as much about the subject as about the feeling it invokes. When I look at the Hydra Reloaded logo, I know in my heart that it represents more, much more, than first meets the eye. The fluid deep strokes caress my mind and leaves me in a state of awe.
One viewer of this artwork once described it to me like so: "It is a child! A young boy playfully blowing on his pinwheel!" This is what Hydra is about to that person, reinforcing that feeling of pristine happiness that so many "adults" seem to loose. To be able to realize dreams once long forgotten, ideas long lost. But this is only one person. You may find a different meaning. This is art.
Revelation 21:11 "Having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal"
I completely stand behind this wonderful piece of art, and believe it would be a fine addition to the current content of EVE Online, just as it already has been in the community for a long time.
I was on your side up until I read your post. Abstract art, lmao come on man. |
Sinitron
Sinister Electronics
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 05:52:00 -
[186] - Quote
HYdra WiLL pro whale 2008-20015
The universe needs an alliance with a logo which does not have its true beauty hidden under layers of cruddy photoshop filters.
HYDRA RELOADED is this alliance. |
Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
144
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Posted - 2011.12.04 06:26:00 -
[187] - Quote
your logo looks like meh nuts CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Mercurial Blood
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
12
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Posted - 2011.12.04 09:09:00 -
[188] - Quote
Trainwreck McGee wrote:your logo looks like meh nuts
Those must be some mighty fine nuts. |
Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 09:15:00 -
[189] - Quote
Normally I would be against something that took only a couple seconds to whip up in MSPaint, regardless of it's history.
but
then I saw Cascade Imminent's logo. If something as dumb as that can be considered an alliance logo then I'm all for Hyrda provilling in this case. |
Amro One
One.
43
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Posted - 2011.12.04 10:15:00 -
[190] - Quote
It CCP way of saying, "thanks for ******* up are last Alliance tournament ... douchbags" |
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Seleia O'Sinnor
Arklight Project Fade 2 Black
31
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Posted - 2011.12.04 10:23:00 -
[191] - Quote
Remove the bevel of the red lines and it may be ok.
However I hope CCP fixes some more urgent things first. Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing. |
Prozacxx
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
19
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Posted - 2011.12.04 10:33:00 -
[192] - Quote
So what if the logo looks like crap?
It's our logo and we want it, it shouldn't matter how crap it looks. It's no way offensive or racist so there's no reason to reject other than CCP thinks it's crap. |
Xterea
Scisco Innovation Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 10:48:00 -
[193] - Quote
The logo which you are trying to submit looks as though it has essentially been made with Microsoft Paint, and it probably was.
Logos of other major alliances which you showed us all look very professional on the most part and are also pretty unique, such as the logo of Goonswarm Federation. Your logo on the other hand looks vastly unprofessional and certainly doesn't come across as unique.
Find a few artists in your alliance, challenge them to come up with several concept designs of a logo that would suit your alliance, and then reward the person who designs the best logo in some way. |
Niedar
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1
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Posted - 2011.12.04 11:54:00 -
[194] - Quote
Amro One wrote:It CCP way of saying, "thanks for ******* up are last Alliance tournament ... douchbags"
sorry for winning |
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
4
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Posted - 2011.12.04 13:47:00 -
[195] - Quote
Xterea wrote:Find a few artists in your alliance, challenge them to come up with several concept designs of a logo that would suit your alliance, and then reward the person who designs the best logo in some way. you see we already have found one that suits us - that's why this thread exists :) the greatest reward imaginable for the author and everyone supporting her creation is the inclusion of the logo in EVE |
Avalaxus
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 14:02:00 -
[196] - Quote
Hydra Reloaded totally deserves the right to have it's own logo. And no other logo will reflect the essence of this great allice as good as the one that is already their flag for so long. I demand justice! This logo is far more informative than many others, has it's own legend behind it, is artistic (in my opinion it surely is), and was on stage for so long, that everyone who knows about Hydra Reloaded knows that logo.
CCP i vote this logo to be in EVE-Online. This logo is a part of this great game for too long to be ignored. |
Leeloo Malaquin
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
6
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Posted - 2011.12.04 14:48:00 -
[197] - Quote
It is our logo now and forever, just put it in the game CCP... |
Mirima Thurander
Sarajevo Syndicate True Reign
83
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Posted - 2011.12.04 16:24:00 -
[198] - Quote
there i fixed your logo
http://imgur.com/pgAh5
it still has the lol factor but its not just a blob
and if you do use it isk donations are nice I love the the smell of victory in the morning. It smells like... Blood, vomit and burning flesh. I Like You. I'll Kill You Last. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
1165
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Posted - 2011.12.04 16:27:00 -
[199] - Quote
Give them their logo.
The people at CCP are ridiculous in their stupid selectivism
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
67
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Posted - 2011.12.04 16:42:00 -
[200] - Quote
Xterea wrote:The logo which you are trying to submit looks as though it has essentially been made with Microsoft Paint, and it probably was.
Logos of other major alliances which you showed us all look very professional on the most part and are also pretty unique, such as the logo of Goonswarm Federation. Your logo on the other hand looks vastly unprofessional and certainly doesn't come across as unique.
Find a few artists in your alliance, challenge them to come up with several concept designs of a logo that would suit your alliance, and then reward the person who designs the best logo in some way.
The ships in EVE tend towards asymmetrical designs - people find them "odd" and "don't like them" - they want symmetry - sleek angles and shapes in use. bumpy, lumpy, out of easy pattern matching... That doesn't go over with many players because it doesn't sit easily on the eye. Yet CCP's original designs were purposefully "a bit off" with respect to ease of "human" pattern matching for the models. This is a bit farther afield but it also does have a sense of style to it.
Symmetry and the like is quite easy to reproduce with computer technologies. Simply patterns and filters to generate "pretty" logos and the like. Any moron can put a "stylish" logo together with ease using any free through high-end paint tool and scale it however they choose.
That one would take some time and be far more difficult to reproduce due to it's "hand drawn" style.
I may not like hydra's logo much but I do see it's value. It is "different" - very different from any other logo in the game. It does stand out.
Literally - who does it hurt and in what way? - It's not obscene, it's just oddly "ugly" - 2 years using it without recognition? That's tenacity if nothing else - all done in EVE.
A PvP group that's been around that long, with a logo they refuse to give up, no matter what others think of it... Yeah, I'd say with the small amount of effort that CCP has to invest... Why not give it to them? |
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What Is Happening
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 17:40:00 -
[201] - Quote
I don't know what's happening, but I do approve. |
Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
38
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Posted - 2011.12.04 18:10:00 -
[202] - Quote
Mocam wrote:Xterea wrote:The logo which you are trying to submit looks as though it has essentially been made with Microsoft Paint, and it probably was.
Logos of other major alliances which you showed us all look very professional on the most part and are also pretty unique, such as the logo of Goonswarm Federation. Your logo on the other hand looks vastly unprofessional and certainly doesn't come across as unique.
Find a few artists in your alliance, challenge them to come up with several concept designs of a logo that would suit your alliance, and then reward the person who designs the best logo in some way. The ships in EVE tend towards asymmetrical designs - people find them "odd" and "don't like them" - they want symmetry - sleek angles and shapes in use. bumpy, lumpy, out of easy pattern matching... That doesn't go over with many players because it doesn't sit easily on the eye. Yet CCP's original designs were purposefully "a bit off" with respect to ease of "human" pattern matching for the models. This is a bit farther afield but it also does have a sense of style to it. Symmetry and the like is quite easy to reproduce with computer technologies. Simply patterns and filters to generate "pretty" logos and the like. Any moron can put a "stylish" logo together with ease using any free through high-end paint tool and scale it however they choose. That one would take some time and be far more difficult to reproduce due to it's "hand drawn" style. I may not like hydra's logo much but I do see it's value. It is "different" - very different from any other logo in the game. It does stand out. Literally - who does it hurt and in what way? - It's not obscene, it's just oddly "ugly" - 2 years using it without recognition? That's tenacity if nothing else - all done in EVE. A PvP group that's been around that long, with a logo they refuse to give up, no matter what others think of it... Yeah, I'd say with the small amount of effort that CCP has to invest... Why not give it to them?
Such a great post. Thank you. |
Cornerwood
Woodsmen
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 18:32:00 -
[203] - Quote
I know whats art and it should wake up people, it has strong story and this is most awesome. CCP eve is full of matured players. CCP i really feel shame about your actions against this logo, you seem too hyppocritical, even too childish.
But anyway take logo with humour and it even looks retro.
thx anyway i like crucible and eve!
-Cornerwood
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
143
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Posted - 2011.12.04 18:42:00 -
[204] - Quote
Sounds like CCP is just trolling you guys, 'cause that sheep in the linked slideshow really makes it obvious.
Anyway, if you feel like 'negotiating' further with CCP's art department, perhaps you'll need to show a little willingness to compromise. Maybe. |
Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 19:01:00 -
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If anyone still thinks that Hydra should not have their logo in-game, I challenge you to look at this alliance's logo and tell me again with a straight face that Hydra still shouldn't have their logo ingame.
At least Hydra's logo stands for something, unlike the one posted above. |
Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2011.12.04 19:35:00 -
[206] - Quote
The only reason why this thread is still active is because hydra players keep posting. This thread should be closed, and the logo should be DENIED!!! Eve is such a beautiful place, this ugly, very ugly, hideous, abomination should not be allowed, period...Ant it aint no art. DENIED!!! |
Cors
It's A Trap It's A Trap Alliance
4
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Posted - 2011.12.04 20:31:00 -
[207] - Quote
Grow up and create a real logo. Take it ******* seriously. Do you think that that crayola scribble you have as a logo would fly in the real world? Sure you could use it. But your brand would not be taken seriously.
Remember. You are not running a guild. You are running a Corporation. And that Corporation is part of an Alliance of Corporations.
So make that Alliance's logo be something it's members can be proud of.
If I saw that scribble in game as an alliance logo, I'd file a bug report, then when told it was the real logo, I'd start a petition to get it removed.
Grow up. -áFiS FiS FiS FiS FiS FiS FiS FiS FiS FiS FiS FiS MIcrotransactions are for DEAD MMO's. NOT for successfull ones. I already pay for 5 accounts. I WILL NOT PAY FOR ANYTHING ELSE!!! |
Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
38
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Posted - 2011.12.04 20:50:00 -
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Razin wrote:Sounds like CCP is just trolling you guys, 'cause that sheep in the linked slideshow really makes it obvious. Anyway, if you feel like 'negotiating' further with CCP's art department, perhaps you'll need to show a little willingness to compromise. Maybe.
Framing it like that's not bad tbh, but in principle we should get the original submitted one in. |
Sinitron
Sinister Electronics
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 20:55:00 -
[209] - Quote
Mistress Lilu wrote:DENIED!!!
I'm not in HYDRA RELOADED and I think their logo is beautiful like a flower blooming in spring. |
Duncan Tanner
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
113
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Posted - 2011.12.04 21:09:00 -
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We are not every other alliance and every member of Hydra is proud of this logo.
Trying to force us to fit within your views of what your ideal sandbox should be ruins the sandbox. |
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