Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Hiro Kaichi
The Folkvangr Project
0
|
Posted - 2015.03.10 06:15:02 -
[1] - Quote
Hi, i'm pretty new to the game almost a month in and I was wondering how profitable is it? Right now i'm piloting a Shield Tank Gnosis and I have been able to go there and kill some NPCs but yeah. I need some tips on what to do and such and if the Gnosis is the right ship to use, oh and i'm sorry if this it's in the wrong place but its my first time on the forums
-Thanks :D |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
2848
|
Posted - 2015.03.10 06:41:02 -
[2] - Quote
100% profitable if you use T1 lasers or drones.
JUSTK is recruiting.
|
Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
235
|
Posted - 2015.03.10 10:32:52 -
[3] - Quote
much isk such wow if you use a carrier or other things big like carriers
EVEALON Creative --á****Logo Design | Killboard Banners | -áWeb Design | Website Graphics
-á
|
erg cz
Tribal Core
143
|
Posted - 2015.03.10 16:46:40 -
[4] - Quote
Hiro Kaichi wrote:Hi, i'm pretty new to the game almost a month in and I was wondering how profitable is it? Right now i'm piloting a Shield Tank Gnosis and I have been able to go there and kill some NPCs but yeah. I need some tips on what to do and such and if the Gnosis is the right ship to use, oh and i'm sorry if this it's in the wrong place but its my first time on the forums
-Thanks :D As Goons keep showing you null is not profitable at all. You are slave of some soverenity holding corp so you play as they time schedule you or you are a meat there. You can do some ISK for a while, but than gank comes and you lose pretty much all you have made so far.
As I understood, ratting belts NPC is like doing L4 missions in terms of ISK income. So go back to Sinq Laison, find yourself a nice friendly mission agent and start doing missions for him. Same income, less frustraition from local bullies.
As I see it null, wormhole or low sec is where you go for PVP fun, not for money. Unless you are in a really good corp and spend each and every evening defending you soverenity space you are pretty much done there. (Hint: I never was in null sec ;) , do they really eat babies in Tribute region?) |
Joan Miles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
|
Posted - 2015.03.10 17:04:33 -
[5] - Quote
Life in Null can be a job. Depends who you work for. There is no correct answer. It can be anywhere from 0 to 100% more profitable. More rewarding bounties and loot are there though, if it's that you are asking.
erg cz wrote: do they really eat babies in Tribute region?) Only the chubby ones that may drop faction mods. |
Bullet Therapist
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
273
|
Posted - 2015.03.10 18:38:01 -
[6] - Quote
It really depends on where you live and what tools you have available to you. Solo ishtar ratting with heavies can yield 20m ticks with good skills and about 100m an hour if you're using an MTU. Using a rattlesnake, depending on your local NPC variety, is a little better. Multibox smartbomb ratting can go significantly higher. If your space is busy you're going to see significantly less isk/hour as you have to dock more frequently. |
Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
237
|
Posted - 2015.03.10 19:17:30 -
[7] - Quote
erg cz wrote:Hiro Kaichi wrote:Hi, i'm pretty new to the game almost a month in and I was wondering how profitable is it? Right now i'm piloting a Shield Tank Gnosis and I have been able to go there and kill some NPCs but yeah. I need some tips on what to do and such and if the Gnosis is the right ship to use, oh and i'm sorry if this it's in the wrong place but its my first time on the forums
-Thanks :D As Goons keep showing you null is not profitable at all. You are slave of some soverenity holding corp so you play as they time schedule you or you are a meat there. You can do some ISK for a while, but than gank comes and you lose pretty much all you have made so far. As I understood, ratting belts NPC is like doing L4 missions in terms of ISK income. So go back to Sinq Laison, find yourself a nice friendly mission agent and start doing missions for him. Same income, less frustraition from local bullies. As I see it null, wormhole or low sec is where you go for PVP fun, not for money. Unless you are in a really good corp and spend each and every evening defending you soverenity space you are pretty much done there. (Hint: I never was in null sec ;) , do they really eat babies in Tribute region?)
This isnt really true, sov isnt as bad as that, you dont have to join every fleet that gets put up you can shoot npcs as much as you want, belt ratting isnt as profitable as anoms an escalations, you can get very rich doing havens and sanctums then doing the 10/10's that come from them, i get 27-30mil ticks plus loot on top and whatever loot from the 10/10 (a type reppers, bpc's etc)
EVEALON Creative --á****Logo Design | Killboard Banners | -áWeb Design | Website Graphics
-á
|
Faylee Freir
Defining Harassment Slaver's Union
61
|
Posted - 2015.03.10 20:11:35 -
[8] - Quote
erg cz wrote:Hiro Kaichi wrote:Hi, i'm pretty new to the game almost a month in and I was wondering how profitable is it? Right now i'm piloting a Shield Tank Gnosis and I have been able to go there and kill some NPCs but yeah. I need some tips on what to do and such and if the Gnosis is the right ship to use, oh and i'm sorry if this it's in the wrong place but its my first time on the forums
-Thanks :D As Goons keep showing you null is not profitable at all. You are slave of some soverenity holding corp so you play as they time schedule you or you are a meat there. You can do some ISK for a while, but than gank comes and you lose pretty much all you have made so far. As I understood, ratting belts NPC is like doing L4 missions in terms of ISK income. So go back to Sinq Laison, find yourself a nice friendly mission agent and start doing missions for him. Same income, less frustraition from local bullies. As I see it null, wormhole or low sec is where you go for PVP fun, not for money. Unless you are in a really good corp and spend each and every evening defending you soverenity space you are pretty much done there. (Hint: I never was in null sec ;) , do they really eat babies in Tribute region?) Hisec is every bit as dangerous and action-packed as null, low, and wormholes. It's where all the faction-fit trophy-bears go because some risk adverse moron told them it's where you can go to make easy money in an environment that is easy, safe, and risk free. Every area of space comes with its own gimmicks and differences that make different situations more prevalent, but I'm here to tell you that New Eden is New Eden and maybe except for rookie chat and the starter systems - there is no "safe" and "risk free". To spread this, especially to newer players is setting them up for a shock in which they never expect their cargo expanded-fit freighter slammed full of 20b in items to get ganked. HTFU |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2669
|
Posted - 2015.03.10 21:30:11 -
[9] - Quote
erg cz wrote:Hiro Kaichi wrote:Hi, i'm pretty new to the game almost a month in and I was wondering how profitable is it? Right now i'm piloting a Shield Tank Gnosis and I have been able to go there and kill some NPCs but yeah. I need some tips on what to do and such and if the Gnosis is the right ship to use, oh and i'm sorry if this it's in the wrong place but its my first time on the forums
-Thanks :D As Goons keep showing you null is not profitable at all. You are slave of some soverenity holding corp so you play as they time schedule you or you are a meat there. You can do some ISK for a while, but than gank comes and you lose pretty much all you have made so far. As I understood, ratting belts NPC is like doing L4 missions in terms of ISK income. So go back to Sinq Laison, find yourself a nice friendly mission agent and start doing missions for him. Same income, less frustraition from local bullies. As I see it null, wormhole or low sec is where you go for PVP fun, not for money. Unless you are in a really good corp and spend each and every evening defending you soverenity space you are pretty much done there. (Hint: I never was in null sec ;) , do they really eat babies in Tribute region?)
Ratting belts is garbage tier isk. Anoms is where it's at, but then it's about 75m/h with a lot of red dodging. |
Hiro Kaichi
The Folkvangr Project
0
|
Posted - 2015.03.11 01:47:39 -
[10] - Quote
Okay, how do I start L4 missions because when I talk to an agent he says I can't do the mission :/ |
|
Faylee Freir
Defining Harassment Slaver's Union
61
|
Posted - 2015.03.11 02:27:34 -
[11] - Quote
Hiro Kaichi wrote:Okay, how do I start L4 missions because when I talk to an agent he says I can't do the mission :/ You need proper standings for different level agents. You will need to start with level 1's and grind your way up to 4's. You could also tag along with someone that does 4's. If he shares mission rewards with you, both of you will get standing gains.
I am on my phone atm so it's annoying to navigate. There are plenty of threads in the missions and complexes sub-forum on the topic of gaining standings for level 4's ASAP. |
erg cz
Tribal Core
144
|
Posted - 2015.03.11 08:47:44 -
[12] - Quote
Hiro Kaichi wrote:Okay, how do I start L4 missions because when I talk to an agent he says I can't do the mission :/
Check your standings. For level 1 missions you need -2 standings and higher For level 2 = 1 Level 3 = 3 Level 4 = 5.
Main thing is to find the proper corp. One with level 1 - level 4 security agents in your space and high payout for loyalty points (LP). Use eve agents side and dotlan map (google it) to find your area. Use https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/lpstore/ to find the proper corp, which will give you most ISK per 1 loyalty point.
Example: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/Astral_Mining_Inc. will give you 1666 Isk per LP if you use Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer blueprint. But Federation Navy will give you only about 600 Isk per LP because it has same LP store as faction warfare corporations. And Faction Warfare folks get ISK mostly from LP store. Chemal Tech has same LP store as Astral mining, but you will have to travel into Amarr space to run L3 security missions. Because Chemal Tech has L3 agents in Gallente space only in low sec. Amarr are slave traders, so beware...
Interesting option is to work for sisters of eve. Their LP is one of the best. |
Hiro Kaichi
The Folkvangr Project
0
|
Posted - 2015.03.11 16:29:20 -
[13] - Quote
Oh okay, so I just do the standard missions and then I will be able to do the higher level ones? And how do I check if I can do level 2 and so on missions? |
Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
239
|
Posted - 2015.03.11 16:35:24 -
[14] - Quote
missions are tediously boring, what is your goal in the game, solo stuff or being part of a pvp group?
EVEALON Creative --á****Logo Design | Killboard Banners | -áWeb Design | Website Graphics
-á
|
Hiro Kaichi
The Folkvangr Project
0
|
Posted - 2015.03.11 17:02:58 -
[15] - Quote
Right now I'm trying to earn a ton of isk to fund my pvping since I am a solo player, so yeah once I get a good amount i'll stop for awhile and do some pvp then go back to making isk. Right now I have a Gnosis to do missions and such in. I can pilot a retriever but mining is really boring :/ |
Faylee Freir
Defining Harassment Slaver's Union
61
|
Posted - 2015.03.11 19:10:03 -
[16] - Quote
Hiro Kaichi wrote:Right now I'm trying to earn a ton of isk to fund my pvping since I am a solo player, so yeah once I get a good amount i'll stop for awhile and do some pvp then go back to making isk. Right now I have a Gnosis to do missions and such in. I can pilot a retriever but mining is really boring :/ You'll have more fun not being a peasant and buying plex to sell. Then you can pvp all you want. Being a peasant is bad and causes you to do boring things so you can have fun later. |
Hiro Kaichi
The Folkvangr Project
0
|
Posted - 2015.03.11 23:52:20 -
[17] - Quote
I know I will, but im not buying a plex lol, I have been straight mining since I got the game and tried a few more things. I was just wondering if there was a better way of getting isk |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34699
|
Posted - 2015.03.12 00:58:53 -
[18] - Quote
This is relevant to your original question:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=410322&find=unread
There are other threads in the Missions & Complexes forum that might be useful for you as well.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
|
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
945
|
Posted - 2015.03.12 02:09:04 -
[19] - Quote
Hiro Kaichi wrote:Oh okay, so I just do the standard missions and then I will be able to do the higher level ones? And how do I check if I can do level 2 and so on missions?
In game: Open your character sheet Scroll down, open standings Select the 'Liked by' tab There are 2 sections, one is factions (the top section), then the corporations. Select a corp you have been missioning with (Caldari Navy?) and right click it. You will get 2 options. Show info or show transactions. Show info will let you access a list of agent available to you. Show transactions will show how your standings increase after each mission.
There are skills in the social category that help boost the standings too.
Missioning is a decent way for newbs to make isk and train combat related skills at the same time. Gets you familiar with locking, counting volleys, piloting. It also lets you *feel* how another level of a skill affects your ship. Over the course of a month, you will know what improved what, and why. Tank, DPS, Drones, Speed, etc. etc.
As others have mentioned. Don't make missioning your "end game". Use it for isk, or chill time, or whatever, but remember that EVE is a PvP game, and that's where the fun is. |
Hiro Kaichi
The Folkvangr Project
0
|
Posted - 2015.03.12 04:01:53 -
[20] - Quote
RavenPaine wrote:Hiro Kaichi wrote:Oh okay, so I just do the standard missions and then I will be able to do the higher level ones? And how do I check if I can do level 2 and so on missions? In game: Open your character sheet Scroll down, open standings Select the 'Liked by' tab There are 2 sections, one is factions (the top section), then the corporations. Select a corp you have been missioning with (Caldari Navy?) and right click it. You will get 2 options. Show info or show transactions. Show info will let you access a list of agent available to you. Show transactions will show how your standings increase after each mission. There are skills in the social category that help boost the standings too. Missioning is a decent way for newbs to make isk and train combat related skills at the same time. Gets you familiar with locking, counting volleys, piloting. It also lets you *feel* how another level of a skill affects your ship. Over the course of a month, you will know what improved what, and why. Tank, DPS, Drones, Speed, etc. etc. As others have mentioned. Don't make missioning your "end game". Use it for isk, or chill time, or whatever, but remember that EVE is a PvP game, and that's where the fun is.
Thanks, and I know that's where all the fun is, just need to get some isk to fund it lol
And apparently the only thing that is available to me is distribution. So would it be a good idea to start and go with the sisters of eve corp because I heard that they were good
-Thanks :D |
|
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
945
|
Posted - 2015.03.12 06:00:45 -
[21] - Quote
SOE (Sisters) is a great corp to mission for. Space is sort of limited, in that, many of their mission hubs are in low sec.
There are several ways to pick a corp. Location to trade hubs Location to your friends or player corp. (If you join one) Location that you just like in EVE.
Distribution missions get your standings started, then you can switch to security shortly after.
|
erg cz
Tribal Core
145
|
Posted - 2015.03.12 09:11:38 -
[22] - Quote
Security missions in different parts of universe (jump clones help you here) is my way of getting sights, that are not seen elsewhere. Angel cathedral, amarr bunker fortresses, pirat assembly plants etc... So it is not only ISK income, it is also the way I enjoy EVE scenery. I doubt null sec ratting can be that amusing. And the very same mission can give you very different experience, if you do it in Machariel and than in Rattlesnake, for example. From adrenalin fest to relaxing jughernaut... Those are reasons, why I prefer L4 missions as main source of ISK. Before CCP nerfed the loot couple of patches ago (Crius, I believe) it was also moment of nice surprise to check my MTU after mission. Now it is mostly metal scraps and ammo even from BS NPC so I do not wait for complete loot. But there was a time... and I kind of hope it will return one day. |
bigman111222
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
16
|
Posted - 2015.03.12 18:46:42 -
[23] - Quote
If you want to make isk and pvp join a big alliance in null, any of them worth their salt will help you rat in the local area and help you with getting into pvp. Most importantly I would say make friends with experience and learn from them. |
Hiro Kaichi
The Folkvangr Project
0
|
Posted - 2015.03.13 01:40:59 -
[24] - Quote
k thanks and what are jump clones and what are they for?, i'v just been mining so I still don't know much :/ |
erg cz
Tribal Core
147
|
Posted - 2015.03.13 09:08:59 -
[25] - Quote
Hiro Kaichi wrote:k thanks and what are jump clones and what are they for?, i'v just been mining so I still don't know much :/ Jump clones is the way, how you can jump from any station to any other station in the whole universe each 20-24 hours (depends on skill). You can create jump clone in NPC stations, to whose owner you have standing 8.0 or better. After you created it, you can fly it where ever you want and then jump into your original clone. So even if you was docked deep in null, let say in PF-QHK, you can jump to Amarr high sec space in a matter of second. |
Kines Pavelovna
Norman's Meat Market
4
|
Posted - 2015.03.14 21:46:17 -
[26] - Quote
Carrier anom ratting is apx 120mil an hour. This is just conjecture on my part from the info I've dug up scouting null farming corps; i.e. standard buyer beware boilerplate baloney. |
Styphon the Black
Forced Euthanasia Soviet-Union
12
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 15:23:31 -
[27] - Quote
You can pull down a really good amount of ISK ratting in true null. Especially with good ships. Without a hauler, faction or officer spawns you can pull down about 100-120mil an hour. However, it is very normal to get hauler and faction spawn that can drop another 100-200 million+ in loot. |
Phig Neutron
Rubicon Cubism
79
|
Posted - 2015.03.19 18:46:45 -
[28] - Quote
The thing I like about ratting in nullsec, as opposed to doing missions and incursions, is the randomness of the faction spawns. Sometimes you get a worthless laser crystal, other times you get a pirate POS blueprint worth hundreds of millions. That said, nullsec missions can be very lucrative. |
Dana Goodeye
Quafe Commandos Point Blank Alliance
1
|
Posted - 2015.04.12 13:11:39 -
[29] - Quote
this is just my opinion, but do soe missions. use a vexor navy on lvl 4 or 5 with not bad drone skills in this way: hisec fit should be low: dcu, 3 drone damage mods, one drone tracking mod, and a speed mod. overdrive or nano hull. meds are long point against the hisec pirates, 2 med shield extender and an oversized 100 nm ab. and one drone range mod in high. one t2 capacitor one t2 powergrid and one t2 shield em rig. its ab on cap stab, with point about 2-3 mins. drones in hisec are light squadron of t1 hobs, heavy squadron 2geckos, 2 t1 valkys and a hob. for losec drop one exte.der for a web, and use t2 drones. and ofc warriors not hobs. with this fit fear the inties you cant hurt them. about 700 dps, all applied. heated ab is about 1.6km/s. run from the deimos, inties, orthus, gramur, but in 1v1 you can kill or escape from any other ships, even if they land on you and get point on you. never warp with ab on, orbit the enemy in 15 km and the geckos will do the rest. this fit easily cam escape any gatecamps as well, via burn back to gate. but keep it mind, its a half or less pvp fit :D i have a similar pvp fit with 2 webs and a plate, with a little less dps, but i keep it to myself :P and if you wanna rat in low or null, you will get pvp, so have pvp ships ready. for exple a pvp vni with the same name to deceive your enemy :D and one more thing for losec ratting. against the clones drop the light drones first, maybe the silly npc gonna attack them not you. burn to the clone with some angular velocity, then ab off orbit it in 500m light drones in heavy squadron out. you will get minimal damage income. (still capable to fight off incoming assho@es :D ) good luck and losec ratting is fun because the other pvp pilots :P |
Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
86
|
Posted - 2015.04.13 16:05:26 -
[30] - Quote
Hiro Kaichi wrote:Right now I'm trying to earn a ton of isk to fund my pvping since I am a solo player, so yeah once I get a good amount i'll stop for awhile and do some pvp then go back to making isk. Right now I have a Gnosis to do missions and such in. I can pilot a retriever but mining is really boring :/
Do everything you can in your Gnosis (in high sec) and don't lose it. Skill skill skill so you can fly it better, and better.
Your retriever is going to be more profitable than ratting in whichever ship you are planning to rat in null in (I predict you will lose your Gnosis quickly in Null, stick to T1 Battlecruisers for null). Any ship you fly, with less than ideal skills, is going to have a hard time killing the rats in Null (the big Rats anyway). Research the rats you kill in null, and write it down. Preferably before you kill them - so you can learn what kills them more efficiently first.
Because mining is so straight forward and easy to do, mining in your Ret will likely be more profitable in the long run than ratting in null.......for now.
Playing eve solo can be very difficult. Playing with a few other individuals just doing missions can be great. Or those other people can really become a pain in the neck and more of a burden than anything. Seriously......find a group of people you would like to fly with, and keep searching until you find them, cause they are out there.
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |