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Polinus
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Posted - 2006.11.16 09:51:00 -
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Ok I am really frustrated, in fact yesterday i even cancelled my account, but reactivated this morning again in hope Kali can change a bit of it. Here is the facts that led me to do it and I think that unfortunately they show how CCP does not pay attention on how to make game pleasurable to players of all experience levels.
First of all my toon is a 800k SP one rather new but capable of flying cruisers and BC enough to have no fun at safe space with teh miserable fighter rats.
I got the last 6 and 1/2 days stuck in same system (0.4) because of gate campers that were holding all exist of system with 4 Battleships/HACS on each gate. They were there every day on the time frame I have to play after work. So i got almost a full week of just sitting and doing NOTHING (no agent to do missions and only 4 belts on system).
My whole corps is too weak to help and no one in system as interested on helping.
Yesterday was holiday hwere so I was able to play in a different time frame. Ok so I attemped to make a run to move my stuff out of that system. I got my cruiser and took of station... before my screen gets normal again (out of the balc transition) I am already webed and jammed by a Vagabond and die... in few instants after that. Luckly being so close I can dock with pod.
I get my other cruiser.. and wait about half on hour until i see that the vagabond docked... so i take off and head to gate (trying to go into safe empire). When i am alsmot jumping the vagabond appears again.. i jump.. and run afst to next gate. But... since is a long jump i have to make that traditional capacitor stop at middle. And when i arrive at next gate.. the vagabond is already there waiting... ok.. dead again... I am already becomming reaaaaly ****ed. And ofcourse... sentries help nothing.. why to put sentires if they cant kill anything but noobs?
Later I get my corps help. 4 cruisers and 2 frigates to help get the surviving stuff form 0.4 into empire so i can rebuild some money etc.. after a very lame week of gaming. We start outr journey.. the vaga tries to attack again.. but we were able to drive him off.. it seemed. We continue.. on next jump.... still in a 0.4 system. The vagabond comes again.. but with a fellow pirate in.. a Machariel!! WTF!!! What in hell is a machariel pilot doing killing noobs in 0.4 space? No need to say we are completely vaporized. BUT NOW is the lame part that machariel guy destroy our cans!! he dont even loot.. it kills aour pods and cans just for the pleasure of making our lifes miserable.
My account that started with 38 mil isk that week is with less than a 1 and 1/2 million. No fun on having to start all over again.
So what is the fun of being able to play with cruisers and BC if you cant use anything bigger than frigate until you are 6 months old? What is the fun of as sson as you leave ZERO danger space (concord space) you get into an area where you are imediately faced with overpowered players? You dont have a mid term. There is only space to the ones that like no dange (0.5+) and ones that are able to deal with machariels pirating! There is no sense on 0.4 to 0.1,.. its all the same thing!!
What is teh help on those sentries if they cant kill anything an experienced player use? 0.4 sentries should be able to kill any ship.. and maybe on 0.1 thery should be weak as they are... And HACS, battleships and all ubers ships should Not be allowed above 0.2 space...
Now i am stuck in an almost startting game all over again.. very frustrated. Because i have to keep in NO FUN SPACE (0.5>) because tehre is no graduation form 0.4 to 0.0.. there is just a slaughter room where I acnt go to have fun unless I wait 4 more months. :(
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.16 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Polinus
My whole corps is too weak to help
This is your problem.
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.16 09:57:00 -
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sry u wont get any ♥ from me u just way to stupid to use game tools to awoid low sec pirats there is lots of empty low sec systems in eve u can stay even wont meet single player for long time
and if u want to leave plz do so les players les lag for me
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.16 09:57:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 16/11/2006 09:58:31
There is no easy mode in eve. Which is how it should be tbh.
However there is a fairly easy solution; Ditch the corp and find a good one. -----
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Mangold
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.16 09:59:00 -
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Well, to be fair, you could easily have avoided those losses.
The Vagabond would have to tank sentries when he killed you. That is not easy and he cant tank sentries for long. He probably had to warp out right away after your ship popped. So, how could that help you? You need to survive longer to make him bail out. How? You could fit a jammer and jam him. You should had fitted your 2nd cruiser with tanking, webbing and jamming. Undock and let him attack you and then web, jam and scram him and watch the sentry guns do their work. Remember that he's using a +300M ship against your 10M cruiser.
If you dont want to fight you could have bought a shuttle and made a run for it to safe space and picked up your cruiser another time.
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James Duar
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:01:00 -
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Losing 38 mill in EVE is really not that bad. I've been down to about 700k ISK in the last two weeks and am now just creeping back up to around 50 mill.
But yes, I agree with the sentiment here, find a new corp or get them to find a new star system. Or blow away the pirates enough to send them off. And please please please get yourself some instas.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:03:00 -
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I must be the odd one out, because I feel safer in 0.4 and lower than I do in 0.5 and higher.
As for the story...get a corp worth a ****.
Yes, Sentries are underpowered.
And HACs are not uber ships, they just take awhile to kill.
Oh and you made a few mistakes. First of all, you didn't leave the 0.4 system asap (never make a living in a gateway system, find one deeper into low sec), you left the station while the Vaga was waiting for you to leave, and your biggest mistake was not being prepared to deal with unfriendly people.
Also, 0.5+ is by no means risk free.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:04:00 -
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Wow, tbh mate, you shouldn't have really jumped into lower dec til your a little bit older and more experienced. Your corp mates when your new and young usually give you advice on things like this, tips how to survive and use the map to full effect. Jumping into a bc when your so young and inexperienced is just painting a huge bullseye on yourself becasue you need a base amount of skills to usethem effectively.
What's the rush, enjoy the missions, go exploring in low sec if you need to but nt in a fat slug of a ship, get insta's ( or wait til kali's no bm needed thingy) . Maybe look for a better corp as well, go on corp ops into low sec, have some fun pvp in inexpensive ships and have a blast. Eve doesn't have an easy mode, if you don't adapt, you die, simple and we all love it for it tbh
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Spanker
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:06:00 -
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Wow, you're certainly getting no sympathy from this lot
Personally it's those types of experiences that made me stay with EVE for so long, but not everyone is as masochistic as me I suppose
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Zarch AlDain
Friends of Everyone
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:06:00 -
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Sounds like you have had a harsh time, and I think some of the other responses are being too rough on you.
One thing they are right on though is that if your corp cannot protect you in low sec you need to either stay in high sec or get a better/more experienced corp. It's good that they tried to help you but 2 cruisers and 2 frigates are (as you saw) not really enough vs experienced pirates.
Lots of 0.0 alliances are recruiting all the time, and people like goonswarm take low SP members.
To be honest I recommend trying level 3 missions for a while and practicing things like instas (although they may become obsolete with Kali) and heading back out to low sec once you have a couple of million SP. Start out in disposable frigates as well and just scout out the area.
Zarch AlDain
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Polinus
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:07:00 -
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The problem is not that. The main problem is that I was kept locked in a system unabel to run for 1 week. Every time I tried I got killed.
And Players with ridiculowsly powerfull stuff go just grief weak players instaed of going do something interesting. What is the fun of pursuing noobs in 0.4 in a machariel?
And yes there ISeasy mode on eve!! That machariel was playing on easy mode. That is the problem the easy mode is only for players that are in game for 3 years! And also there is the ultra easy mode on empire.
I don't want an easy mode. I want an AVERAGE mode. Ant reasonable game designer is able to do so. I worked (DEVELOPER) in other MMOs and on that aspect EVE is one of the worst!!!
Any reasonable game design tries to keep all the players with chance to have fun.
And I don want to play in an uber corps. I ddid that in past with other account and left game becasue tehre was no fun to be on a gagn where you are almost just an spectator... I am in a corps of all sub 2 million SP so we can have fun together on same level.
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Laythun
Undercover Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:10:00 -
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There is soo many things wrong with that whine.
Hmmm..firstly, if you couldnt deal with the players you shouldnt be there, harsh but fair. secondly i doubt that with 800k sp u could have fit the cruiser in any meaningful way to survive an encounter with an older player in a low sec system. Its tough but thats how eve is, its not easy and its not fair at all. You accepted the risks entering the space, so u must live with the consequences.
Anyway ive been in far worse situations, u just have to move on and rebuild, and if your corp isnt strong enough then maybe you should be in that corp?
Lastly tanking sentries isnt as easy as u might think and its pretty difficult to pop a bunch of ships and collect all there cans under sentry fire.
this is make or break, in a single incident ive lost more than you, but you can either whine about it, or you can learn from it. It seems you've chosen to whine, i suggest next time you learn.
Undercover Brothers It's great being Amarr, aint it?Ö |
Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:13:00 -
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To the OP: Find yourself a 0.4 system that isn't a chokepoint between high-sec and low-sec/0.0 space, you'll have a lot less pirates camping the gate. Also spend a few days looking at the map (that "show pods destroyed" option), to figure out what is a hot spot and what is a quiet area. Last but not least, is you're around caldari space, go in a region that is less crowded by noobs/afk traders, you'll have less pirates. ------------------------------------------ Every ship has a base 60-70% resist against the primary damage type of the race that is the least able to vary it's damage types. |
Polinus
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:15:00 -
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I think you all dont get the poitn. That is not a simple whine. Its a critiscism of how EVE dois not contemplate a reasonable time frame on the life of a character. When you are over 2 weeks old. no lvl 1 mission will give you any fun. And you are still too far form lvl 2 missions ( on the rythim I was going it would take 3 months to reach level 2 missions). So no chalange at one point... so you try to find something more fun to do. But there is no.. " a bit more difficult" place to have fun. There is nothing fun in 0.5 and above.. nothing.. until i can unloack level 2 agents.. and I dont want to pay just do do NOT FUN things!!
EVE must insert contents for this level of paying. Cause that is one of reaosn so many accounts are short lived.
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Saint Schala
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:15:00 -
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m8 u were in low sec!! Ill repeat that slowlwy L.O.W S.E.C. this mean low securaty I.E. u may die.
Im not trying to be rude but eve is unforgiving. experienced players are always gonna take a pop at noobs jees when i was a nubblet i got popped a lot aswell. 38 mil aint to bad for an 800K sp player jees eve is soo easy to make isk now. ffs even the tutorial gets u 100K isk when i started it got u 10-15K max and i had to grind at fekkin roids for hours to get a bantham lol.
suck it up LEARN from this join a good corp if u want a medium risk area try a 0.0 corp. seriousley 0.0 is safer in bits than lowsec.
And dont fly ship u cant afford to lose if u fly a 10 mill ship have 10 mill to replace it if u fly a 300mill ship have 300mill to replace it thats a golden rule follow it!!u wont feel quite as bad when u lose the next one.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:16:00 -
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quit youre corp set youre medical clone to an empire station go back to NPC corp until youre at 2-3 mil skillpoints
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Polinus The problem is not that. The main problem is that I was kept locked in a system unabel to run for 1 week. Every time I tried I got killed.
They had every gate camped? You couldnt fit a setup that could slip passed them?
Quote: And Players with ridiculowsly powerfull stuff go just grief weak players instaed of going do something interesting. What is the fun of pursuing noobs in 0.4 in a machariel?
"If you run, they have to chase you. It's their way."
And Faction BSes are nice...but far from 'ridiculously powerful'.
Quote: And yes there ISeasy mode on eve!! That machariel was playing on easy mode. That is the problem the easy mode is only for players that are in game for 3 years! And also there is the ultra easy mode on empire.
I have a motto you might like: "If I lose a ship, it was my fault."
This one is good too after you setup a ship: "This thing is an explosion that hasn't happened yet."
Quote: I don't want an easy mode. I want an AVERAGE mode. Ant reasonable game designer is able to do so. I worked (DEVELOPER) in other MMOs and on that aspect EVE is one of the worst!!!
You gave him the kill. And crediting yourself with being a dev in lesser mmos is like saying you are a person who helped **** over the mmo industry...and was proud of it.
Quote: Any reasonable game design tries to keep all the players with chance to have fun.
Eve gives you all of the tools you need to survive, build, and destroy in the galaxy. Which one you do is also up to you.
Quote: And I don want to play in an uber corps. I ddid that in past with other account and left game becasue tehre was no fun to be on a gagn where you are almost just an spectator... I am in a corps of all sub 2 million SP so we can have fun together on same level.
There is no 'same level' in Eve. Unless noobness is a level.
I can understand why you wouldn't want to join a good corp...but it doesn't sound like you have ever been in one...so why not give it a shot?
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"Victory is the weakness of the enemy."
"It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar." |
Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Polinus I think you all dont get the poitn. That is not a simple whine. Its a critiscism of how EVE dois not contemplate a reasonable time frame on the life of a character. When you are over 2 weeks old. no lvl 1 mission will give you any fun. And you are still too far form lvl 2 missions ( on the rythim I was going it would take 3 months to reach level 2 missions). So no chalange at one point... so you try to find something more fun to do. But there is no.. " a bit more difficult" place to have fun. There is nothing fun in 0.5 and above.. nothing.. until i can unloack level 2 agents.. and I dont want to pay just do do NOT FUN things!!
EVE must insert contents for this level of paying. Cause that is one of reaosn so many accounts are short lived.
Grab a Rifter and go kill players in low sec if you want fun. Dying is going to happen, it's all part of what makes Eve great. You risk something to get something.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"Victory is the weakness of the enemy."
"It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar." |
Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:19:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 16/11/2006 10:22:06
Originally by: Polinus The problem is not that. The main problem is that I was kept locked in a system unabel to run for 1 week. Every time I tried I got killed.
Shuttle, Frigate with MWD, setting you clone in a diffrent system. You didnt try hard enough.
Originally by: Polinus And Players with ridiculowsly powerfull stuff go just grief weak players instaed of going do something interesting. What is the fun of pursuing noobs in 0.4 in a machariel?
First of all, there are no griefers in eve. You got killed in what we like to call, a PVP game. The thing behind a PVP game is that people to to PVP, you know, shoot other people.
Originally by: Polinus And yes there ISeasy mode on eve!! That machariel was playing on easy mode. That is the problem the easy mode is only for players that are in game for 3 years! And also there is the ultra easy mode on empire.
Right because there arent any people with the same or more SP would just loveee to kill a machariel.
Originally by: Polinus I don't want an easy mode. I want an AVERAGE mode. Ant reasonable game designer is able to do so. I worked (DEVELOPER) in other MMOs and on that aspect EVE is one of the worst!!!
Any reasonable game design tries to keep all the players with chance to have fun
Then you've found the wrong game im afraid. Eve does not cater to the weak who need someone to hold their hand, it caters to whoever is the strongest.
At the end of the day, you got yourself in a mess, there where various solution to your problem, you choose a completely diffrent option, which would obviously fail and then you decided to complain on the forums.
Things you should have done instead: - Grabbed a shuttle - Grabbed a frigate with MWD - Made instabookmarks before going into low sec - Get your friends to fit something useful. Vagabonds and Machariel are both minmatar ships, guess what? Get some minmatar jammers on them and they cant shoot anyone. All you gotta do now is web and scramble them and they wont go anywhere, hence they will die to sentries.
Trying to run out of camped system with a slow ship and whining on the forums wherent on the options list.
Originally by: Polinus no lvl 1 mission will give you any fun. And you are still too far form lvl 2 missions ( on the rythim I was going it would take 3 months to reach level 2 missions). So no chalange at one point... so you try to find something more fun to do. But there is no.. " a bit more difficult" place to have fun. There is nothing fun in 0.5 and above.. nothing.. until i can unloack level 2 agents.. and I dont want to pay just do do NOT FUN things!!
EVE must insert contents for this level of paying. Cause that is one of reaosn so many accounts are short lived.
Level 2 missions arent all that much more difficult then level 1's, with a battlecruiser or hell, reasonably equipped cruiser they will become easy as hell. Theyre not gonna add content to compensate for the lack of player skill or knowledge, this is why joining a corporation with experienced players is much easier, newbies cant help newbies. -----
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:21:00 -
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I disagree with you.
1. Why are you in a cruiser with 800k sp? 2. There is no compulsory midwarp stop, you need better energy management and warp drive operations skills(among others). 3. If you do some reading of these forums you will see that there are several ways you could have avoided the losses. Instas for the gates would have been most useful for example, not to mention an undocking insta from the station. I can only assume that you didnt take the time to set these up before the system was locked down. 4. It is possible to have a lot of fun in a frigate, a cruiser and above can often be a liability. With your skill levels its an expensive stone around your neck. 5. I am glad your corp showed solidarity in coming to help you, however if they knew their business they would have advised you to try any of the many options you had to escape. 6. I am sorry the guy destroyed your cans too, that is just plain griefing. 7. We want this game to be as tough as nails on everybody, either you will learn and adapt or you will leave.
So please dont quit, just start doing some research on one of the many many guides you can find through these forums. Teach your corp to fit their ships to work together and even a few small frigates can kill a vagabond, the machariel might take longer but jamming him means you can get away at least.
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Radioactive Babe
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:22:00 -
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Well Polinus m8, you are entirely correct ... there are many many systems that are permacamped by so called pvp'ers ... in reality they are scum of the earth, massing huge firepower to take down n00bs in cruisers/BC's with pve setups ... as well as that, coming onto this forum is a waste of time because it is crawling with them (what else can you do when you are permacamping some gate waiting for a shuttle to come through) ... their usual answer is find a better corp, because as we all know, pvp corps are always delighted to take <2mil sp players ..... stick with agents in high sec until you can put T2 fittings and take a bunch of friends, it will be easier when Kali comes onstream as the Tier3 BC's are HAC killers ... take those agony unleashed pvp courses and get youself well kitted out and go chasing them with some friends.... they WILL run with their tails between their legs, you might catch a slow one
You will never get a good fight out of them, they are just 20+mil sp chars in faction ships and HAC's popping newbs, run for their SS and log if anything decent came along
Just dont bother posting here, you'll get flamed (as I will now) to hell and back for daring to complain about lame players/tactics
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Saint Schala
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:22:00 -
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to the gyy thats gonna take 2 months to get level 2 missions? EH u can do it in a couple of hours if not a day or so. Train social and connections to level 3 badaboom level 2 missions!! and use higher Q agents u wont be farr of level 3s and that will do u a while. -----------------------------------------------
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Noluck Ned 6. I am sorry the guy destroyed your cans too, that is just plain griefing.
I disagree with you.
It isn't griefing to kill a loot can.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"Victory is the weakness of the enemy."
"It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar." |
Eddie Stobart
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:26:00 -
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Eve is full of griefers, players who's only purpose in game is to spoil yours. If you can't live with that then I wouldnt bother playing. At weekend I was mining in safe empire in my Hulk when a group of caracals warped in and blew my ship. They gained 0 isk from doing this in fact it cost them 4 caracals & fittings but they know it cost me 500mill and thats why they did it. I have since war decked the corp and the cowards all left and formed another corp so I have war decked that one, chances are I will never get to kill them because they will just keep forming new corps on a daily basis. And a War dec takes 48hrs before you can fight.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Stobart Eve is full of griefers, players who's only purpose in game is to spoil yours. If you can't live with that then I wouldnt bother playing. At weekend I was mining in safe empire in my Hulk when a group of caracals warped in and blew my ship. They gained 0 isk from doing this in fact it cost them 4 caracals & fittings but they know it cost me 500mill and thats why they did it. I have since war decked the corp and the cowards all left and formed another corp so I have war decked that one, chances are I will never get to kill them because they will just keep forming new corps on a daily basis. And a War dec takes 48hrs before you can fight.
Petition them for exploiting the war declaration system.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"Victory is the weakness of the enemy."
"It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar." |
Polinus
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:28:00 -
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But if i dont find frigate flying fun? I am condeemed to several months of no fun gaming? If there were Cruiser class targets in 0.5 and above I would stay there. If at least I could reach missions where i could face cruiser.. .. but that would take a loong time
And I am not bothered when I am jumped by a rupture or a BS on ar interceptor. But a machariel just to destroy the cans is just #&!@#*!@!(@!!!
And my 800k SP character is all on combat skills, cruiser V 4 gunnery 5 medium guns 4 maxed armor skills. So it should be possible to fly a cruiser reasonably.
And what is teh difference on0.4 and 0.1? Why not make the 0.4 sentries much more powerfull?
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Radioactive Babe in reality they are scum of the earth, massing huge firepower to take down n00bs in cruisers/BC's with pve setups ...
You cant really blame pirates for killing people who are abolutely clueless and prefer whining on the forums over actually doing something against pirates.
Originally by: Radioactive Babe as well as that, coming onto this forum is a waste of time because it is crawling with them (what else can you do when you are permacamping some gate waiting for a shuttle to come through) ... their usual answer is find a better corp, because as we all know, pvp corps are always delighted to take <2mil sp players
You dont need a PVP corp, you need a corp with people who know something about the game. It doesnt matter how many clueless people you dump in a channel, in the end theyre all still clueless and wont be able to help each other.
Originally by: Radioactive Babe take those agony unleashed pvp courses
Good advice.
Originally by: Radioactive Babe You will never get a good fight out of them, they are just 20+mil sp chars in faction ships and HAC's popping newbs, run for their SS and log if anything decent came along
And yet they win? Why is that? Ah thats right, they adapt to their situation.
Originally by: Radioactive Babe Just dont bother posting here, you'll get flamed (as I will now) to hell and back for daring to complain about lame players/tactics
Youre not getting flamed for daring to complain, youre getting flamed because you want to see game mechanics changed to make the game easier for you. Instead of doing what the rest of us, adapting to the situation around us, as one is supposed to with this game, you whine on the forums about the game being to hard. -----
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:29:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 16/11/2006 10:31:13
Originally by: Eddie Stobart I have since war decked the corp and the cowards all left and formed another corp so I have war decked that one, chances are I will never get to kill them because they will just keep forming new corps on a daily basis. And a War dec takes 48hrs before you can fight.
Petition, leaving and refoming corps to avoid war decs is an exploit.
Originally by: Polinus But if i dont find frigate flying fun? I am condeemed to several months of no fun gaming? If there were Cruiser class targets in 0.5 and above I would stay there. If at least I could reach missions where i could face cruiser.. .. but that would take a loong time
And my 800k SP character is all on combat skills, cruiser V 4 gunnery 5 medium guns 4 maxed armor skills. So it should be possible to fly a cruiser reasonably.
Missions would the answer for you.
Originally by: Polinus And what is teh difference on0.4 and 0.1? Why not make the 0.4 sentries much more powerfull?
The number of sentries is the diffrence, it wont matter though. Ever battleship can tank sentries for a limited amount of time. -----
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Polinus But if i dont find frigate flying fun? I am condeemed to several months of no fun gaming? If there were Cruiser class targets in 0.5 and above I would stay there. If at least I could reach missions where i could face cruiser.. .. but that would take a loong time
And I am not bothered when I am jumped by a rupture or a BS on ar interceptor. But a machariel just to destroy the cans is just #&!@#*!@!(@!!!
And my 800k SP character is all on combat skills, cruiser V 4 gunnery 5 medium guns 4 maxed armor skills. So it should be possible to fly a cruiser reasonably.
And what is teh difference on0.4 and 0.1? Why not make the 0.4 sentries much more powerfull?
I dont find frigates all that fun either. But I use them when the situation warrants them. As in traveling, light cargo hauls, and scouting.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"Victory is the weakness of the enemy."
"It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar." |
Zebler
Four Horsemen
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Edited by: Zebler on 16/11/2006 10:36:56 Its true that there are many people who just take great pleasure over making someone else's day hell. It is part of human nature I am afraid. Repeatedly killing you when you are trying to move out is just mean.
They did not loot your cans because they had worked out you were a new player, and there was nothing that they wanted in your loot.
You do need some training, from the description you gave out a few of those losses were avoidable.
I can give you a few little pointers that you may/ may not know.
- when your ship explodes and you end up in a pod, you cannot jump or dock for 30 seconds. So when that vaga killed you outside the station, you were lucky he did not pod you. - when you undock you are invulnerable for 30 secs, so long as you do nothing. You could have just sat still, not moved, and re-docked - instas, you really must have instas in low sec. Pirates love people who dont use them - make instas with a disposable alt if the gates are camped. It may take repeated attempts, but eventually you will run the out of sec standing/ammo/willpower - make inline safespots between gates, and make sure those spots allow you to scan the gate you are going to - Jammers, dampners and stabs are all good - with current game mechanics, a shuttle on instas is not catchable with just a little practice. - an option would have been to sell your stuff and shuttle out
And on a final note to the community, can you really imagine what its going to be like if interdictors (with their bubbles) are allowed into low sec!!?
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