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Veratrix
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Posted - 2015.06.23 19:13:33 -
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Another one on the band wagon for getting faction hits removed for aoe weapons. I honestly see no reason lore/mechanics wise, why FW players should solely be prevented from using these items. The whole don't be in FW argument is dumb, because the mechanic as it stands is dumb. There is no logical reason to only prevent FW players from utilizing these tools.
The awoxing thing would be a pretty minimal problem that only seriously affected pods, and there are minimal tangible benefits gained from specifically smartbombing as an awoxer as opposed to a pie so I don't really see how it matters. Currently you can awox within the FW system with out taking standings hits for your current faction via cross-faction awoxing. So the argument that you want to prevent no-standings hit awoxing when it already exists within the current mechanics is dumb.
Frankly, and as I hope this thread will eventually show, the most active FW group/players are more than willing to risk the potential negatives of getting rid of standings hits for these items. As the opportunity to finally use these very basic and important tools just significantly and obnoxiously outweighs it. |
Veratrix
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.06.24 15:08:37 -
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Quote:Removing the AOE restrictions & the resulting standings hits from FW space eliminates the unique environment their constrained use creates and will make FW fleet combat like Null.
Or you know like the rest of lowsec...where people can and do use smartbombs. The unique environment you speak of is that by a fluke of game design a small segment of people in eve are prevented from using specific modules, allowed to the rest of the people in that type of space, in any meaningful fashion. What possible benefits and unique uses of gameplay occur by solely preventing facwar players from utilizing modules that rest of lowsec can use.
Frankly, it is incredibly inane, as a faction warfare player, to want to intentionally gimp your potential fleet options because it is somehow unique that we get screwed over and no one else in low or null does. |
Veratrix
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.06.24 22:42:21 -
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It's already an option for anyone not in faction warfare in lowsec, and I haven't seen it done effectively yet. The range and damage on smalls isn't enough to effectively do it in those size plexes. The damage and range on mediums is pretty bad as well, one cycle of 6 tech 2 medium sb's (which you would have to gimp any t1 cruiser to fit) is 840 damage before resist. It's just not something I'm even remotely afraid of happening on any large scale. It can be done in larges but there is no guaranteed warp in point and no cynos, so not really feasible.
Again, this technique is already possible to people in the same corp and to pirates and has been for years. I have never seen it done successfully once. Have you? |
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