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Kaivar Lancer
Little Rat Company
618
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Posted - 2015.06.22 18:31:53 -
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I have a second account which I refuse to resub due to PLEX rising to ~1b isk. We already have Multiple Character Training, so will CCP sell character slots in the future? |
Freya Sertan
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
212
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Posted - 2015.06.22 18:33:39 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:I have a second account which I refuse to resub due to PLEX rising to ~1b isk. We already have Multiple Character Training, so will CCP sell character slots in the future?
They do, they're called alternate accounts. Having 3 per account is fine, doubly so when you refuse to pay for your other accounts on your own.
New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.
Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
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Paranoid Loyd
5907
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Posted - 2015.06.22 18:33:48 -
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Wat
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3695
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Posted - 2015.06.22 18:36:53 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:I refuse to resub due to PLEX rising to ~1b isk. There is an alternative way of subbing your accounts it's called money.
Oh god.
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Kaivar Lancer
Little Rat Company
618
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Posted - 2015.06.22 18:38:10 -
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Freya Sertan wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:I have a second account which I refuse to resub due to PLEX rising to ~1b isk. We already have Multiple Character Training, so will CCP sell character slots in the future? They do, they're called alternate accounts. Having 3 per account is fine, doubly so when you refuse to pay for your other accounts on your own.
When you sub a second account, what you're really paying for is the ability to login two characters at the same time.
I don't want that. I just want one account, and login with one character only. But I want more than 3 alts. |
Robert Warner
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
92
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Posted - 2015.06.22 18:51:15 -
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Now why did you have to go and suggest something silly like that? |
Freya Sertan
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
214
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Posted - 2015.06.22 18:52:28 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Freya Sertan wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:I have a second account which I refuse to resub due to PLEX rising to ~1b isk. We already have Multiple Character Training, so will CCP sell character slots in the future? They do, they're called alternate accounts. Having 3 per account is fine, doubly so when you refuse to pay for your other accounts on your own. When you sub a second account, what you're really paying for is the ability to login two characters at the same time. I don't want that. I just want one account, and login with one character only. But I want more than 3 alts.
No, you DO want that you just don't want to pay for it. That's not how it works.
New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.
Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
787
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Posted - 2015.06.22 18:52:45 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:I refuse to resub due to PLEX rising to ~1b isk. There is an alternative way of subbing your accounts it's called money.
Seems like it's time to cash out on some of my stockpile.
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
57985
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Posted - 2015.06.22 18:58:48 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote: When you sub a second account, what you're really paying for is the ability to login two characters at the same time.
Nope.
What you are really paying for is the ability two train two characters simultaneously, 3 new character slots are just a nice bonus.
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it.
Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Pixie Tickle
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
85
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Posted - 2015.06.22 19:04:12 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote: When you sub a second account, what you're really paying for is the ability to login two characters at the same time.
Nope. What you are really paying for is the ability two train two characters simultaneously, 3 new character slots are just a nice bonus. Nah sexy, he's right. Ya can still train a trial, but ya can't log it in next to another char.
I'm the distraction.
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
383
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Posted - 2015.06.22 19:32:47 -
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See my only issue with more character slots is this. Atm CCP has decided that for your one sub you have access to 3 characters only. If you bought slots it would have to reflect the income lost to CCP that additional characters on an account would create. This would mean that the price per slot wouldnt be cheap imo. The multiple character training issue isnt a problem anymore due to the ability to pay to train more characters on one account.
So CCP would have to determine the value of a slot, but at what parameters? A month of game time? 3, 6, 12 months? As these characters could do things in game and swap out and earn passive income which has value to players. If they made the slots to cheap it would be easy to get say a dozen slots and do PI or something passive with them to gain even more in game.
On the one hand I can see uses for it, on the other the limiting factors CCP has given us are also valuable just because it limits our choices and makes our choices more valuable.
But if CCP ever did something like this I wouldnt expect it to be cheap, $50-100 or more would be more than appropriate, or the equivalent plexs.
Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
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DaReaper
Net 7
2235
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Posted - 2015.06.22 20:04:41 -
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sure why not... for the price of 1 plex per month you can now have 6 alts...
So... just pay for your second account
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
22044
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Posted - 2015.06.22 20:11:16 -
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Willing to pay for extra character slots, unwilling to pay for a second sub.
Willing to pay for extra slot to still only be able to play 1 character at a time, unwilling to pay for a second account which give 3 slots and the ability to play 2 characters simultaneously.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
793
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Posted - 2015.06.22 20:12:53 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Willing to pay for extra character slots, unwilling to pay for a second sub.
Willing to pay for extra slot to still only be able to play 1 character at a time, unwilling to pay for a second account which give 3 slots and the ability to play 2 characters simultaneously.
Normally, UaE, I would say you should just take his stuff, but in this case I advise you to let it lie. It might be contagious.
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Kaivar Lancer
Little Rat Company
619
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Posted - 2015.06.22 20:15:01 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Willing to pay for extra character slots, unwilling to pay for a second sub.
Willing to pay for extra slot to still only be able to play 1 character at a time, unwilling to pay for a second account which give 3 slots and the ability to play 2 characters simultaneously.
Willing to make a one-off payment for an extra slot, sure. |
Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
135
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Posted - 2015.06.22 20:41:45 -
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
277
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Posted - 2015.06.22 21:01:14 -
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Why isn't this game WoW? They're almost spelled alike!
I survived Win95
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Vol Arm'OOO
Bagel and Lox
581
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Posted - 2015.06.22 21:06:05 -
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Otso Bakarti wrote:Why isn't this game WoW? They're almost spelled alike!
Well they both have achievements - here they are just called "opportunities." I just cant wait till they expand the "opportunities" so I can get my tackled a titan achievement badge.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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Freya Sertan
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
217
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Posted - 2015.06.22 21:44:06 -
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Vol Arm'OOO wrote:Otso Bakarti wrote:Why isn't this game WoW? They're almost spelled alike! Well they both have achievements - here they are just called "opportunities." I just cant wait till they expand the "opportunities" so I can get my tackled a titan achievement badge.
You DO understand that the opportunities are the New Player Experience and tutorial and not XBox style achievements, yes?
New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.
Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
254
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Posted - 2015.06.22 22:02:09 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:I have a second account which I refuse to resub due to PLEX rising to ~1b isk. Will CCP sell character slots in the future? We already have Multiple Character Training available, so this isn't such a drastic step.
if CCP will ever add that feature in game then the price of this option is going to be tied up to the PLEX's price.
So it's over and over again - you lose but CCP won. |
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David Therman
University of Caille Gallente Federation
82
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Posted - 2015.06.22 22:42:34 -
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Freya Sertan wrote:Vol Arm'OOO wrote:Otso Bakarti wrote:Why isn't this game WoW? They're almost spelled alike! Well they both have achievements - here they are just called "opportunities." I just cant wait till they expand the "opportunities" so I can get my tackled a titan achievement badge. You DO understand that the opportunities are the New Player Experience and tutorial and not XBox style achievements, yes?
An NPE that, when all is said and done, is even worse then the last one. They might as well be achievements for all the good they do. |
Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations Get Off My Lawn
337
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Posted - 2015.06.22 22:52:23 -
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Its not often that words fail me but...
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6733
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Posted - 2015.06.22 22:55:51 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:I have a second account which I refuse to resub due to PLEX rising to ~1b isk. Will CCP sell character slots in the future? We already have Multiple Character Training available, so this isn't such a drastic step.
Because CCP says no. That's why. They hate us, and want to take our candy, and kick our puppies. If you don't have a puppy they will buy one for you, then kick it.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2015.06.22 23:54:38 -
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I don't get what the big f***ing deal is here...
I simply buy PLEX with RL money and use it for toon utilities or to stockpile cash and make a fortune, like I'm doing now. |
shimiku
Black VooDoo Asassins The Kadeshi
33
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Posted - 2015.06.22 23:59:21 -
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ye i want more pi alt that i dont need to pay for |
Jenshae Chiroptera
1734
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Posted - 2015.06.23 00:26:05 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote: Will CCP sell character slots in the future?. Hilmar alt detected.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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knowsitall
Adeptus iNdustry and Logistics Silent Eviction
35
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Posted - 2015.06.23 08:51:24 -
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I hope not. If they did this I can tell you now that with infinite lab and manufacturing slots, you would see me with soooo many lab and building alts for a very small one off cost. As there is a hard limit of slots per character.
KIA |
Kaivar Lancer
Little Rat Company
619
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Posted - 2015.06.23 08:54:07 -
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knowsitall wrote:I hope not. If they did this I can tell you now that with infinite lab and manufacturing slots, you would see me with soooo many lab and building alts for a very small one off cost. As there is a hard limit of slots per character.
KIA
Hmmm that would make sense actually. |
knowsitall
Adeptus iNdustry and Logistics Silent Eviction
35
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Posted - 2015.06.23 09:33:33 -
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Its actually the same reason that this game can not go free to play without some dramatic changes.
There are so many things that a low SP character is useful for that if you sold one off cost character slots or went free to play (free character slots) that people (including myself) would abuse.
Low SP characters are not useless, it is just new players are clueless, so don't know how to use a low SP character.
Quick list off the top of my head of things you can train in about a month (some MUCH less).
1) Lab alt - Copying alts are especially quick 2) Building Alt 3) Cyno Alt - If we went free to play I would have one in every station I could dock at 4) Scount - if free to play I could put on in every system....... 5) PI Alt 6) Trading Alt 7) Freighter alt (little bit more than a month but not much if that all it does)
KIA
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Lena Lazair
Khanid Irregulars Khanid's Legion
501
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Posted - 2015.06.23 09:55:56 -
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Freya Sertan wrote:Vol Arm'OOO wrote:Otso Bakarti wrote:Why isn't this game WoW? They're almost spelled alike! Well they both have achievements - here they are just called "opportunities." I just cant wait till they expand the "opportunities" so I can get my tackled a titan achievement badge. You DO understand that the opportunities are the New Player Experience and tutorial and not XBox style achievements, yes?
What's sad (to me) is that when I first heard about opportunities, what I THOUGHT they were going to be was a form of small scale/solo PvE content that replaced static missions/agents/hubs. Basically like a form of mini incursion/dynamic event where every few hours various new opportunities would open up in different constellations/region that would encourage people to 1) roam around, 2) try new activities, and 3) interact with other people.
Like some kind of mini event pops up in a constellation where you have to scan down things, hack exploration/relic sites, do some combat anomalies, mine some stuff, maybe build some things, do some hauling, etc. And if all those little mini-tasks were completed within a specific timeframe then everyone who participated would get an LP bonus. Ideally with some basic free-form cooperative elements that reward multiple people in the same site hacking/mining/blowing stuff up because they get it done faster, but not so difficult that any actual organization is required or that people end up shooing folks away because of accidental competitive/greed elements.
Basically just like incursions but faster, smaller, somewhat less harsh, and designed to encourage people to try all the various facets of EVE while cooperatively roaming around bumping into each other, thus facilitating player interaction. Rather than being parked solo in mission hubs ignoring everyone, alone in your deadspace pockets, which is the part of mission running that is toxic to the game. Say what you will about incursions, the reality is that the specific nature of that PvE content actively encourages player engagement with other players, and carebear or not that's a HUGE benefit over the solo/isolated nature of mission running.
But alas, that's not what they did with it :( |
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