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Captin ShadowHawk
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.30 23:56:00 -
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High: 6 Heavy Launchers II
Med: 3 Tech 2 Large Shield Extenders 1 EM and 1 Invulni Field
Low: 3 PDS II 2 BCU II
This ship is now much improved |
Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.12.01 00:29:00 -
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My exact setup. Use a t2 kin/therm hardener set and you'll passive tank LVL 4s like nothing.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.05 11:03:00 -
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Nighthawk (heavies / active / lg crystals)
Another tanky setup of mine with approx 340 DPS with crappy skills. Now I just need the rigs... ---
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Calprimus
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.12.05 11:12:00 -
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High: 6 Heavy DG
Med: 2 Gist small SB 1 DG amp 1 large SE T2 1 inv T2 (to change according to mission rat dmg
Low: 1 PDS II 3 DG BCU 1 Internal DCU
5x T2 Drones
Thats for Lv4 missions.
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HyJek
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Posted - 2006.12.07 02:24:00 -
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Edited by: HyJek on 07/12/2006 02:24:32 Edited by: HyJek on 07/12/2006 02:24:14 High: 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II 1x Medium Diminishing Nos or Gang Mod
Med: 1x Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster 1x Shield Boost Amp 1x Photon Scattering II 2x Invul Field II
Low: 2x BCU II 2x PDU II 1x Internal Force Field Array
Gets all resists to at least 82% I believe and you have great tanking ability with the Gist booster. This ship is really quite nice now with the changed bonus and is really like a Cerberus on steroids .
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Chejun Ishari
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Posted - 2006.12.07 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk High: 6 Heavy Launchers II
Med: 3 Tech 2 Large Shield Extenders 1 EM and 1 Invulni Field
Low: 3 PDS II 2 BCU II
This ship is now much improved
I use the same setup except instead of the 3 PDU II I use a faction RCU and two SPRs (can you invent the t2s?
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2006.12.07 07:07:00 -
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I would give you my set up, but than i would have to kill you.
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HyJek
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Posted - 2006.12.12 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell I would give you my set up, but than i would have to kill you.
Heh I'm actually quite interested in how you fit this...
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lordferatu
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Posted - 2006.12.13 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: lordferatu on 13/12/2006 20:40:23 was wondering why no one uses the heavy assult missiles? are the heavy assults affected by the command ships skill bonus? currently it says:
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to assault missile, heavy assault missile and heavy missile launcher rate of fire and 5% bonus to all shield resistances per level
Command Ships Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to heavy missile Kinetic damage and 5% bonus to heavy missile precision per level
so im assuming no to the damage and precision bonuses on the assults which seems a bit lame :( was really looking foward to using this ship in small gang pvp. assuming you have a decent tackler with you, you can land on top of your target and not worry about the range of the missiles. fit a nice passive tank and have nice dps with the insane rate of fire you couold potentially achieve with the heavy assult launcher.
was hoping for this setup or similar but if the command ships skill bonus dont apply to heavy assults then i will have to settle for the regular heavys.
High: 6 Heavy Assult Launchers II 1 warfare link mod
Med: 3 Large Shield Extenders II 1 EM II and 1 Invul Field II
Low: 2 SPR 3 BCU II
edit: havent actually looked at any numbers on this and i just thought im probably gonna have to fiddle with the setup if i want to use the t2 high damage assult missiles on top of 2 SPR's. cap regen probably wont be enough to run those active hardeners so might have to have another look at those shield compensation skills or something
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DARKKK
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Posted - 2006.12.13 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: DAR*** on 13/12/2006 20:33:10 6x dg heavy gist xl booster, dg amp, 2x dg invul, pith em hardener 2x db pdu, 3x dg bcu
missile dmg rig and shield booster cap reduction rig
Should nearly perma run booster and do more than 500dps with t2 rigs.
Now pay me.
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HyJek
Central Defiance Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.02 17:55:00 -
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Is it possible to fit an XL booster on this?
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Hephaesteus
Gallente PILGRIMS Insane Asylum
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Posted - 2007.01.02 18:54:00 -
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lvl 4's are a breeze with a Nighthawk
6 Heavy missle launchers T2 1 Med nos T2
1 Large shield booster 4 active hardeners T2
2 Pdu T2 3 Ballistic Controls T2
and drones or though I have never needed to use them in this ship. -----------------------------------------------
Knowing all, when all is unknown.
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Yarek Balear
The Initiative
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Posted - 2007.01.02 20:04:00 -
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For sh*ts and giggles I thought I'd get one and try it out...
first attempt at setup so far is:
High: 6 x Heavy Missile Launcher IIs Med: Photon Scattering II, 2 Invul II, Large Shield Booster II, Medium Electromechanical (w/400s) Low: 2 PDU II, 3 BCU II
Dronebay - 5 light t2s.
Just started using it and it seems good so far - LVL Silence the Informant just completed solo with no problems whatsoever...
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Frederik Andersen
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Posted - 2007.01.10 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Frederik Andersen on 10/01/2007 20:48:19 High: 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II 1x Medium 'Ghoul' Energy Siphon I, or gang mod
Med: 1x Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster 1x Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction 2x Dread Gurista Magnetic Scattering Amplifier 1x Dread Gurista Invulnerability Field
Low: 4x PDU II 1x Internal Force Field Array
This is the best setup by far, its dueable in all categories. I use this setup with full Low Grade Crystal implants.. Works like a charm.
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Frederik Andersen
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Posted - 2007.01.10 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Frederik Andersen on 10/01/2007 20:48:19 High: 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II 1x Medium 'Ghoul' Energy Siphon I, or gang mod
Med: 1x Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster 1x Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction 2x Dread Gurista Magnetic Scattering Amplifier 1x Dread Gurista Invulnerability Field
Low: 4x PDU II 1x Internal Force Field Array
This is the best setup by far, its dueable in all categories. I use this setup with full Low Grade Crystal implants.. Works like a charm.
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J Valkor
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Posted - 2007.01.10 21:18:00 -
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-Highs- 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II's 1x Tractor Beam
-Medium- 1x Pithum A-Type Magnetic Scattering Field 1x Invulnerability Field II (Yes, I need to upgrade it to a dread) 3x Large Shield Extender II's
-Low- 2x Ballistic Control System II's 2x Power Diagnostic System II's 1x Shield Power Relay
-Rigs- 2x Core Defense Field Purgers
17998 Shields with 389 second recharge. 246 DPS. Though I can quite a bit of room for improvement on this. It is still enough to take out anything I've faced in lvl 4 missions. Obviously, it's an omni tank.
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xHalcyonx
Amarr EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2007.01.25 01:56:00 -
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My dream Nighthawk setup:
Nighthawk
High: Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher [45xScourge Heavy Missile] Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher [45xScourge Heavy Missile] Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher [45xScourge Heavy Missile] Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher [45xScourge Heavy Missile] Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher [45xScourge Heavy Missile] Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher [45xScourge Heavy Missile] Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
Med: Gist A-Type Large Shield Booster Dread Guristas Ballistic Deflection Field Dread Guristas Ballistic Deflection Field Dread Guristas Heat Dissipation Field Dread Guristas Heat Dissipation Field
Low: Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
Rigs: Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Capacitor Control Circuit I
Drones: Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II
Resists: 6357 shield E/T/K/Ex=25/94/93/69
4035 armor E/T/K/Ex=59/79/53/10
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Scordite
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Posted - 2007.01.29 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: xHalcyonx My dream Nighthawk setup:
Dream setup? Hm, this would be funny..
Nighthawk
6x Heavy Missile Launcher II [40xScourge Fury Heavy Missile] 1x Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
3x Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender (is this really the best one?) 1x Estamel's Modified Magnetic Scattering Amplifier 1x Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field
2x Shield Power Relay II 3x Chelm's Modified Power Diagnostic System
2x Core Defence Field Purger II
5x Hornet EC-300
Full hg halo set 5% shield hp/shield recharge/launcher rof/explosion radius hardwires
20546 shield, 231.72/s, E/T/K/Ex=85/88/85/84 (if no cap left, drops to 72/78/72/70) 4466 cap, +13.93/s, -3.333/s 309m sig radius 175.0 m/s 306.6 DPS
Extreme tank, extreme cost, extreme sadness when it pops, extreme happiness for whoever loots the can
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.01.29 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Scordite
Originally by: xHalcyonx My dream Nighthawk setup:
Dream setup? Hm, this would be funny..
Nighthawk
6x Heavy Missile Launcher II [40xScourge Fury Heavy Missile] 1x Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
3x Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender (is this really the best one?) 1x Estamel's Modified Magnetic Scattering Amplifier 1x Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field
2x Shield Power Relay II 3x Chelm's Modified Power Diagnostic System
2x Core Defence Field Purger II
5x Hornet EC-300
Full hg halo set 5% shield hp/shield recharge/launcher rof/explosion radius hardwires
20546 shield, 231.72/s, E/T/K/Ex=85/88/85/84 (if no cap left, drops to 72/78/72/70) 4466 cap, +13.93/s, -3.333/s 309m sig radius 175.0 m/s 306.6 DPS
Extreme tank, extreme cost, extreme sadness when it pops, extreme happiness for whoever loots the can
dude the best shield extender ingame is large shield extender II ;-)dunno what you're *****ing about luther veron''s crap
also if you're gonna do pve there's numerous setups that'll tank more then yours
shield power relay II?
post realistic setups
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Scordite
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Posted - 2007.01.29 18:35:00 -
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Just said it'd be funny, sheesh.
And yeah, shields are not really my strong side, as you can obviously tell
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Spineker
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.14 20:55:00 -
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Edited by: Spineker on 14/02/2007 20:53:39 Since it is a ferox on steroids the first setup is most excellent. The ferox begs to be passive shield tank you can get them to recharging as well as shield booster and with great resist. With the TechII extenders it has lots of points and 400ish to 500ish recharge on shields with relays it can really take some damage. You have to give up some missile damage though do to the relays replacing BCUs but the command ship has one more low slot so you could do 3 relays and 2 bcuIIs plus rigs and wow.
And of course if you get into a fight cap means nothing because they can not nos you to death they just waste their time. Add a med nos if you can and they will run out way before you do and when you do it is not an issue don't need cap. That is the great thing about passive which everyone already knows. :)
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.02.14 21:58:00 -
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I also can't believe so many people active tank the nighthawk. The ship begs to be passive tanked... and it does it amazingly well. You can tank over 2000 Kinetic dps easily with a passive setup and 1400+ thermal (The races doing kin/therm do far more kinetic than thermal anyhow). The following setup handled Pirate Slaughter without having to warp out while aggro'ing the entire blob on every stage.
Hi's: 6 Heavy Launcher II's, Tractor Beam Mid's: 2 Large Extender II's, 2 Kinetic Hardener II's, 1 Thermal Hardener II Lows: 2 SPR, 3 BCS II Rigs: 2 Core Defence Purger's
This is a very very simple setup and works amazingly well. For missions that do all 4 dmg types or for easier missions you can use 2 Invuln Fields II's and a shield recharger. For EM/Therm missions you use 2 EM Hardeners, 1 Thermal. For Expl/Kin missions you can use either 1 and 1 hardener of each then 1 invuln (since it's angels you will want the little bit of EM resist too). You'll have plenty of cap to run the hardeners forever.
This works on every single level 4. I EASILY tanked World's Collide with this setup... it was easier than some level 3's were in a ferox back in the day. I've never once had to warp out of a level 4 mission with this setup... only once did I even get close to having to and it was a mission with 9 BS's and 20+ other ships on me at once.
Save the hundreds of millions on those ultra expensive faction boosters... you don't need em.
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Neon Fury
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Posted - 2007.02.14 22:05:00 -
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Currently finishing off all of my support skills before jumping into my nigthawk, but my setup will be as follows - for gang PVP -:
6 T2 HML
Vepas Large Shield Booster True Sansha Med. Cap. Booster(800s) T2 SBA -may be changed for something else- T2 Invuln T2 EM
3 T2 BCU 2 T2 PDS
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Tornado
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Posted - 2007.02.14 22:41:00 -
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i dont fly a command ship but wont it be good to fit a siege warfare link module for the spare high slot?
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.02.14 23:07:00 -
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Good luck fitting the warfare link... it's gonna eat up a lot of Grid and maybe even too much CPU. If you wanna use the links than you might as well fly a vulture and go full tilt at them.
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MuffinsRevenger
EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2007.02.14 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: xHalcyonx My dream Nighthawk setup:
Haklyjon fails!
This is how you do it!
...Allthough my HML ROF is actually down to 5.33 now :D runs forever, tanks annything ^_^ |
Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.02.15 00:19:00 -
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Those Invulns are so sexy. I really should just splurge and buy a few for myself... and get some SPR II's while I'm at it. I can tank level 4's easily with basic T2 stuff... but maybe I can actually use a 4th BCS for that added 10-12% dps it adds.
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Lilith Thy'nin
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.02.15 03:46:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Thy''nin on 15/02/2007 03:49:47
i lol at you all for "DREAM" NH fittings i think this kinda hands it to you all
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9814/20070205142110po2.jpg
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.02.15 04:35:00 -
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Originally by: xHalcyonx My dream Nighthawk setup:
Nighthawk
High: Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher [45xScourge Heavy Missile] Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher [45xScourge Heavy Missile] Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher [45xScourge Heavy Missile] Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher [45xScourge Heavy Missile] Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher [45xScourge Heavy Missile] Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher [45xScourge Heavy Missile] Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
Med: Gist A-Type Large Shield Booster Dread Guristas Ballistic Deflection Field Dread Guristas Ballistic Deflection Field Dread Guristas Heat Dissipation Field Dread Guristas Heat Dissipation Field
Low: Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
Rigs: Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Capacitor Control Circuit I
Drones: Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II
Resists: 6357 shield E/T/K/Ex=25/94/93/69
4035 armor E/T/K/Ex=59/79/53/10
You don't need Kinetic Hardeners when killing Guristas, which that setup looks to be for.
Two Kinetic hardeners is more than you need, thermal dmg from Guristas is almost nothing given the already plenty of resists you have in thermal.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.02.15 07:06:00 -
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4 Invuln fields in that listed setup are just stupid to run. The 4th one prob hurts the tank more than it helps it due to cap drain. It's a good way to show off.. that's about it. I bet if I used only two of those invulns in a passive setup I'd get better tanking than that setup gets with all those other stupidly expensive mods that are wasted.
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