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Zihao
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Posted - 2015.09.02 21:34:27 -
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Terraj wrote:Recent Changes to "attract new players". What are these? As a new player, I feel like I should have seen them advertised, but nothing comes to mind. |
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Posted - 2015.09.02 22:15:54 -
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Markus Reese wrote:Zihao wrote:Terraj wrote:Recent Changes to "attract new players". What are these? As a new player, I feel like I should have seen them advertised, but nothing comes to mind. Well... You had to be here years ago. I was spoiled when I started in 08. You start in space with a couple NPCs shooting you and told to destroy em. That is it. No opportunities, career agents, soe epic arc or even basic tutorial. After a bit you usually can find the help menu... Oh... And rookie ship.... Heh heh. Well, it could fit a turret at least!
I have to guess he's talking about something else. What do any of those changes have to do with veteran players? |
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Posted - 2015.09.03 01:20:43 -
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Markus Reese wrote:Zihao wrote: I have to guess he's talking about something else. What do any of those changes have to do with veteran players?
New players become veterans. More intuitive NPE introduces more aspects of gameplay early on to give players a bit more buzz. By making it intuitive instead of hand holding means they have better understanding of core mechanics. That leads to better players when they stay.
Seems unlikely that is what he is referring to.
Quote: -Recent Changes to "attract new players" Bad for veteran players
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Zihao
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Posted - 2015.09.06 05:05:46 -
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I take it from that Firefly-inspire rant there were some ships that were changed in ways you believe hurt old players? Can you elaborate in a more technical way? Feel free to retain the Malcom Reynolds persona. |
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Posted - 2015.09.06 06:34:18 -
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Luckytania wrote:Zihao wrote:I take it from that Firefly-inspire rant there were some ships that were changed in ways you believe hurt old players? Can you elaborate in a more technical way? Feel free to retain the Malcom Reynolds persona. Actually, no, that wasn't part of my intended point at all. As I thought I made fairly plain: " In the final analysis as to how the game functions, I can agree. " My rant was all about *how* it was done. With no statements about what I might, or might not, have felt was done for the better or worse. "Persistent" was my point. In a 'persistent' world, when I leave the car in the garage on Friday night I don't have to check that all the parts are still bolted on Monday morning when I need to take it out to do some work. But I fully understand that it probably won't be possible to have in dash GPS on my 1956 Chevy. Have to buy a new model to get the new features. (Or, perhaps a better analogy, my early 1970's Corvette doesn't become gelded into a lower powered 1980's model.) What I *own*, what is physically in the garage, does not change its characteristics while I am not watching.
What's rigid continuity have at all to do with the specific item you quoted previously about changes negatively impacting veteran players in particular? It's not as though all veteran players have a massive stock of old depreciated assets and it's entirely possible for a new player to get his hands on a whole lot of something right before a change to the game impacts its utility. Perhaps you have an anecdotal example in mind?
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Posted - 2015.09.06 07:04:20 -
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Mir Jana wrote: Those would be some of my points, confident that they dont agree with the views of most :)
That succinct description of exploration as risk-free and lucrative leads me to believe you've never taken part in it. :) |
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Posted - 2015.09.06 07:29:31 -
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Ah yes, Providence. A region recently known far and wide for it's lack of risk. |
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Posted - 2015.09.06 07:43:25 -
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Clearly you should write a guide to this. You've found a way to beat the RNG and simultaneously avoid any risk in some of the most dangerous regions of the game. |
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Posted - 2015.09.09 02:22:22 -
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Tippia wrote: Simply trying GÇö actually trying GÇö something shouldn't take more than a couple of hours training, but instead, you hear horror stories about people sinking weeks into a skill set before even opening up the appropriate UI window. That's not GÇ£tryingGÇ¥ length; that's more GÇ£decided to invest heavilyGÇ¥ skill time, and confusing one for the other is an all too common mistake.
Good post. Actually trying stuff doesn't take heaps of sp. I've managed to dabble in almost everything except Planetary Interaction, which I hear is akin to self-inflicted gunshot-wounds in terms of long-term amusement, and I just ticked past 2mil sp today. |
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Posted - 2015.09.13 00:34:01 -
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That mindset confuses me. How is "don't subscribe more accounts than you can pay for," belittling? |
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Posted - 2015.09.13 02:43:26 -
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Xenom7 wrote: However rising Plex costs means someone could pay for their accounts at some time, but now can't. It isn't a suggestion to simply say "Rat Harder" or "what do you mean you can't play every day and make xx millions per hour?!"
Like I said, I don't have a care as to what happens to Plex, it is simply a tool I choose not to participate in using at the moment. I want to know what their solution is instead of blaming people who can't afford it?
I think it's perfectly acceptable to wonder how someone can't come up with 0.50 a day and yet has a functional personal computer, internet access, and free time for video games. Coarse language maybe, but it's not belittling. Belittling would be something like "we have to do something about this PLEX price, those poor fools can't possibly make that much isk or cash and we have to think of the fools."
As with any other game market, I don't think there is any problem for which one needs to find a "solution." If a segment of the player base cannot afford a cash subscription, and the antecedent segment of the player base who was paying their subscription in exchange for isk decides they don't need isk that much, then you cannot obligate either one to spend money they can't or don't want to. |
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:53:51 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:for whatever reason they think EVE is free to play using plex, when it is not, someone is paying CCP for the months sub
The free-stuff generation has a very broad definition of what a human right is. I assume gaming is in there somehow. |
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Posted - 2015.09.14 23:31:17 -
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oah wrote:LULZ u r all right mates, but... I'm sad too, eve is diyng, but there's nothing to do... i've "jumped the subscription 2 months ago and i'll never renew this one.
There is no rule or mechannics to discuss... counting the multi-accounts player (2, 3, 4 woth 1) eve is dead... multi-accounts are even a stupid eve exclusive from years.
But, anyway there is no rule to discuss: SIMPLY EVE COST TOO MUCH ... The euro price is a robbery, and the plex price seems like a joke... so, CCP, enjoy your money... enjoy the money wasted developing unuseful game or demo or whathever... payed from us. It's time to think about it CCP, and stick Y 15 Eur/mo into Y....
o7 !
The price of a BMW is too high also, Germany pls. |
Zihao
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Posted - 2015.09.15 19:26:18 -
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Grr speculators. How dare they spend their isk on things I want. |
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Posted - 2015.09.16 00:46:01 -
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Elle Waifu wrote:They should localize sub costs at LEAST.
I know the CAD -> USD exchange has made it 25% more expensive to sub.
If I was to play WOW, I could go to the local store and buy a 30CAD card that would sub me for 2 months. If I was to play EVE I would have to pay 14.95 USD for 1x month.
Talk to your government about that.
Elle Waifu wrote: I don't really understand how they can justify charging more than WOW. If we got real expansions again and content I would say go for it. We haven't had any real new content since Wormholes in 2009.
I am unsure what we are even paying for any more?
You're paying to play EVE. I would think that much is obvious. |
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Posted - 2015.09.16 01:27:49 -
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So newbies like me have at least 6 years of content to enjoy before we're bored and bitter too? Awesome! |
Zihao
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Posted - 2015.09.16 01:33:17 -
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Will do mate. See you on the other side. |
Zihao
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Posted - 2015.09.16 15:27:07 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:(long detailed and interesting hypothesis on PLEX hoarding). There is a simple, elegant and effective way to sort PLEX hoarding. Disable PLEX trading. They still could be activated to add 30 days to your account, or to another player, for ISK, or for free: Seller: "gimme 900 million ISK and I'll add 30 days to your account" Buyer: "No way, they're asking me just 850 million elsewhere"
The trend for a permanent, market trade, asset to temporary special asset that must be manually hawked would have the opposite effect. |
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Posted - 2015.09.16 17:12:28 -
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Yeah, but why ban someone who is your best customer? |
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Posted - 2015.09.18 17:06:15 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Lan Wang wrote: why would i want to pay your sub? but if you really need your sub paying i suppose i can find some tedious job you can do for me :)
I think you are on to something here... if we assume an isk-farmer rate of 100mil an hour, I'll happily pay a minions sub for 6-8 hours of menial slave-work a month (my house gets in a real mess, and the garden could do with some work) - at a current rate of 1.2k isk per Plex, thats 1/2 - 2/3rds the time. Bargain!
I too, would like to hire a neckbeard for pennies an hour. Where can I find this service? |
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Zihao
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Posted - 2015.09.19 03:26:32 -
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Where do they go, these beautiful ones? |
Zihao
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Posted - 2015.09.20 01:46:45 -
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Get a job. |
Zihao
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Posted - 2015.09.23 17:44:50 -
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Bumblefck wrote:/me readjusts his foldout chair and grabs another beer to gaze from the peanut gallery.
*psst*
"Look at them suckers go running about in circles, hun!"
NASCAR the thread. |
Zihao
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Posted - 2015.10.17 04:23:34 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:If anyone needed any confirmation that Eve really is dying this time, and that CCP is starting to get very concerned and desperate... Look no further
Dis gun be gud. |
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