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Ashlar Vellum
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:45:41 -
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ty Fozzie, nice stuff. |
Ashlar Vellum
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.10.23 20:14:34 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote: Also, people i think look at the punisher the wrong way, its not a better tormentor, it is however a t1 slicer.
[Punisher, new] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Co-Processor II
5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray S Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray S Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray S Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray S
Small Energy Locus Coordinator II Small Energy Locus Coordinator II Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
1min 44 of cap i think (capstable without point), 160dps preheat at 19km (188 with heat), 3.49km/s preheat, 3.3 sec agility. Very low ehp but i think you can get a saar on for a nano if you wanted to (not to sure). Its not that great, but it is viable.
how will you be doing 160 dps at the edge of your falloff? (optimal with x-rays is 15km)
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Ashlar Vellum
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.11.17 08:21:15 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote: -Give the tormentor a boost in capacitor regeneration and swap the cap usage bonus out for optimal range. -Give the crucifier the ability to launch a full flight of unbonused drones with a 25/50 drone bay.
No, buffing things that are already strong is not the best of ideas, same with crucifier it's a e-war frig not a combat one.
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Ashlar Vellum
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.11.17 14:31:22 -
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Mad Abbat wrote:Ashlar Vellum wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote: -Give the tormentor a boost in capacitor regeneration and swap the cap usage bonus out for optimal range. -Give the crucifier the ability to launch a full flight of unbonused drones with a 25/50 drone bay.
No, buffing things that are already strong is not the best of ideas, same with crucifier it's a e-war frig not a combat one. its **** as ewar frig, and even shittier as combat one. Current iteration of CNI is just garbage. It's an ok e-war frig and will be better after missile TDs get added and there is other thread about CNI so no point discussing it here. If you still want to make semi-combat ship out of e-war one think about what you will add to vigil, griffin and maulus. |
Ashlar Vellum
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.11.18 09:19:45 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:Ashlar Vellum wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote: -Give the tormentor a boost in capacitor regeneration and swap the cap usage bonus out for optimal range. -Give the crucifier the ability to launch a full flight of unbonused drones with a 25/50 drone bay.
No, buffing things that are already strong is not the best of ideas, same with crucifier it's a e-war frig not a combat one. -The Arbitrator and Bellicose are ewar cruisers and both are competent combat vessels in their own right, there's no good reason not to do something similar to the frigates. -The tormentor in this proposal would have its drones removed, so the dps would drop off to compensate -A crucifier with a full drone bay is just fine as it's unbonused. The vigil's TP role is fine without combat buffs because it immediately benefits the rest of the fleet's damage in any given setting, wheres TDs are more situational. That being said, moving a mid to a high slot, an extra launcher and a 5% firing rate bonus to light and rocket launchers would be fine. Sorry man than we agree to disagree, just see no point shuffling stats on things which already work. Tormentor is a good ship atm and even buff proposed by fozzie in this thread wasn't really needed, cruci is ok ship too at what it does (with only one heated td it makes 70km beam fessors in to 20km one, pulse nomen get it scorch range to something close to heated web range etc.)
And imo it would be better for CCP to take a second look at some already rebalanced mods/rigs like transverse bulkhead rigs, small beams etc. for polish than reinventing bicycles basically with things that we already have and tend to work fine. |
Ashlar Vellum
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.12.01 10:26:31 -
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Paladin Genghis Khanid wrote:Sven Viko VIkolander wrote:The punisher....The ship is probably fine as it is, on the assumption that not every t1 frigate needs to be viable for solo pvp Jog my memory. What are the other T1 frigates that aren't viable for solo PvP? Why every ship should be "viable" for solo pvp? (and it is viable btw you just have to be extra picky about what you engage.) |
Ashlar Vellum
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.12.02 20:06:13 -
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Paladin Genghis Khanid wrote:Ashlar Vellum wrote:Paladin Genghis Khanid wrote:Sven Viko VIkolander wrote:The punisher....The ship is probably fine as it is, on the assumption that not every t1 frigate needs to be viable for solo pvp Jog my memory. What are the other T1 frigates that aren't viable for solo PvP? Why every ship should be "viable" for solo pvp? (and it is viable btw you just have to be extra picky about what you engage.) You enter a discussion knowing full well how completely on the wrong side you are when you have to answer a question with a question. Question: Why not? Answer: ALL the other ones are. EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM. Unless, of course, I'm wrong and they all aren't. Am I wrong? So back to my question: What are the other T1 frigates that aren't viable for solo PvP? Ok - vigil, griffin, bantam, navitas, burst, inquisitor. (all fit your criterion - all t1, all frigs)
You can say that last 4 are all logi frigs and they are all balanced in their own group and I would agree with you there, but they still fitted your standard tho. Now we are left with vigil, griffin that can not solo in comparison with cruci, maulus that definitely can. So why are we not talking about how vigil and griffin can't solo?
If a ship has a role even if it's a niche role as a punisher (cheap, heavy frig tackle) why should it be balanced around "can it solo or not". So my question wasn't trolling I just found notion of balancing things only on merit "can it solo or not" flawed, that's basically why I asked. |
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