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Crellion
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.12 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Emrod
Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Emrod We have the honor to always help and defend our allies
So that is why the core corporations of TCF left RA and ran north after their stations were taken? Or is someone forgetting a rather significant part of their alliance history?
If you want a exact TCf story, ask to my diplo, its better than supposition (;
stufffff ... we were spanking RA all over the South ... more stuffffff
Ahahaa, yeah, I remember those times! :D
Oh wait, No I don't :( Where was I when you did that Crellion? :(
It was right about when I had 400 kills on RA KB and you had 0 kills on RS KB... ring a bell? Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |
Crellion
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.12 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zoltaris
Originally by: Crellion No supposition TFC legged it when we were spanking RA all over the South and never looked south again till the majority of -v- pvp corps had moved on and RA had become RAGOON... you lot do seem to be BANDWAGONeers with little remorse...
Its TCF, not TFC
And btw, TCF didn't exist back then
Yes it was Section 13 or something no?
Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |
Zoltaris
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.12 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Zoltaris
Originally by: Crellion No supposition TFC legged it when we were spanking RA all over the South and never looked south again till the majority of -v- pvp corps had moved on and RA had become RAGOON... you lot do seem to be BANDWAGONeers with little remorse...
Its TCF, not TFC
And btw, TCF didn't exist back then
Yes it was Section 13 or something no?
Section 13 is a corporation, not an alliance, they are part of TCF now, however -----
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Founder Meo
Gallente Dragons Of Redemption Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.12 03:34:00 -
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I remember fighting for -V- and ill agree we did lose our fighting edge at the end. But i remember that not all KOS were bad when the betrayal happened a number split off and joined us. But that doesn't make what they did right. KOS royally stabbed us in the back. if you cant hack fighting and losing then don't fight at all. I fought, and I died for my alliance can you KOS people honestly say the same. If you cant hack losing don't play the game would be my suggestion
As for the Goon swarm people I'm honored to know that you think Pleasurably of us old -V- members the lord knows I appreciate a good fight. But we lost fair and square. Propagandists aside i will never forgive those KOS people who left. You can complain about support as much as you want, but i remember fighting alongside you just as I remember fighting alongside LV, And i thought you were allies. but its all Over now. KOS made there decision and lets hope they stay with it. Because i know which side i will be fighting for, I'll be supporting my fellow comrades in LV I'll be fighting for the cleansing of scalding pass. Maybe one day -V- will come back i hope it does.
Until then, to Enemy and Ally alike : Walk Softly and carry a Big Gun ----------------------------------------------- -Who would bring a charge against God's elect ? it is God who justifies- Romans 8:33 |
Namelesz
Dismemberment
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Posted - 2007.02.12 04:11:00 -
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After reading thru most of this thread I have to say that I am pretty much embarrassed to have been part of KOS for a short period.
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Wodin Drukvik
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.12 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Founder Meo I remember fighting for -V- and ill agree we did lose our fighting edge at the end. But i remember that not all KOS were bad when the betrayal happened a number split off and joined us. But that doesn't make what they did right. KOS royally stabbed us in the back. if you cant hack fighting and losing then don't fight at all. I fought, and I died for my alliance can you KOS people honestly say the same. If you cant hack losing don't play the game would be my suggestion
As for the Goon swarm people I'm honored to know that you think Pleasurably of us old -V- members the lord knows I appreciate a good fight. But we lost fair and square. Propagandists aside i will never forgive those KOS people who left. You can complain about support as much as you want, but i remember fighting alongside you just as I remember fighting alongside LV, And i thought you were allies. but its all Over now. KOS made there decision and lets hope they stay with it. Because i know which side i will be fighting for, I'll be supporting my fellow comrades in LV I'll be fighting for the cleansing of scalding pass. Maybe one day -V- will come back i hope it does.
Until then, to Enemy and Ally alike : Walk Softly and carry a Big Gun
DORM were one of the most vigorous fighters, and it's nice to see that you're willing to fight alongside your chosen allies as nastily as you fought against us. I respect those who didn't just jump ship when -V- sunk - ironically you're the kind of loyalists that any alliance would be better off recruiting. I guess that's one of the cruel jokes that EVE plays - the people unwilling to abandon ship for favorable waters are the same people who would be most valuable for another alliance to recruit.
Regardless, my comrades and I have nothing but respect for our foes, and it's good to see that not everyone has forgotten that KOS are stand-up allies. :)
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Emrod
Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.12 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Exelsior
Originally by: redeyehunter You know what guys, you may have the numbers, but LV and BOB have the quality.
RA has quality (respect to them, also like T2 loot) , but the rest of you are just rubbish, lots and lots of rubbish.
Let's not forget AAA shall we now, i'm pretty sure they're not on your side (unless i got my diplomacy mixed up). And while RA have quality and also numbers in the form of allies, I honestly don't think you guys have any serious chance.
HOLY *** WE ALL GONNA fOCKING DIE
Oh and for AAA...We are Nap with them dude...for the moment its seem if your facts be true... Welcome in Bob online |
putukas
Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.12 10:02:00 -
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Most of the top5 pvp corps from old Veritas killboard are still fighting CA RaGoons.
We are not giving up until old Imperium alliance and specially goons are shipless :p
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.12 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Touk
Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson I just wanted to state for the record that KOS is still in this fight despite the lowly chatter we receive from our rivals in 0.0
ITS TIME
oh...and I bet LV is so sure they will win....just as sure as RA was beaten and Cache was safe....eh boys? I'm sure we all remember when that was on the threads..
Despite that....GF and GL to all
ive said it before and ill say it again. KOS are the most usless excuse for an alliance to have ever graced the server.
if i accomplish one thing during this war it will be to expose your lot as the backstabbing, *****in bunch of lowlifes you really are. We may be at war with RA but atleast we can respect them and they deserve better allies than you lot.
So 1 man alliances beat KOS at everything?
Find it funny when people can't even express their own feelings properly.
Oh and the "smack" you put it. It's really flamebait unless you can back any of it up I'm afraid...
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.12 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Namelesz After reading thru most of this thread I have to say that I am pretty much embarrassed to have been part of KOS for a short period.
Unfortunetly all alliances have idiots in them.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.12 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: putukas Most of the top5 pvp corps from old Veritas killboard are still fighting CA RaGoons.
We are not giving up until old Imperium alliance and specially goons are shipless :p
Wonder what you boys will do when nano ships get err balanced?...
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putukas
Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.12 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: putukas Most of the top5 pvp corps from old Veritas killboard are still fighting CA RaGoons.
We are not giving up until old Imperium alliance and specially goons are shipless :p
Wonder what you boys will do when nano ships get err balanced?...
we will do what we have done for years. We'll use something else if needed. Dont you worry about it :p
Its ****ing me off tho, they always nerf good setups for ships.
Like it was with ravens. First they f**k up missiles. Then they nerf jamming then they increase ship hp.
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Kayle Ki
Ktaomai Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.02.12 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Kayle Ki on 12/02/2007 12:12:24 While I have trouble understanding any justification for war decing an ally for trying to salvage what they have left after losing their central hub station, regardless of who's fault the loss was, that point has been argued enough. :P
I will say that as a standard grunt in KOS, the only LV I ever saw prior to the war dec was when we formed to go help LV. I was one of the first through the gate when we came to bail LV out with 100 man fleet while they deployed GB-. Certainly never saw LV in the qgq area while they were our "friends", but suddenly they were able to be there in force the moment they were our enemies. :P
I'm not much into politics. I check these boards once a week at most when I'm bored, or to read how wars on the other side of the map are going. My opinion of alliances is based off what I've seen of them in-game, and honestly, I was thrilled when KOS backed off its northern campaign and came back south to fight LV. In the time we've been here, RA, Goon, and TCF have shown to be better allies than LV ever even pretended to be.
Take it for what you will (which generally isn't much on game forums. :P ) but that's the view of somebody outside the propaganda political wheelings and dealings, based just on the day to day. I know when I'm in trouble I've got friends I can count on now. Never had that feeling with LV.
At any rate, it all works out in the end. I'm happy with the core group that's goin at in KOS right now. I'm happy with our new allies. Most of all, I'm happy being in a war against somebody I'd actually like to see fall, rather than somebody I'm fighting just because I want their space. :P Meaningful PvP is what makes EVE great, and LV's helped make it even better!
win win situation for me!
Back to the battlefield. The Ki fleet is ready to go!
o7
(note that while I don't like that -V- war deced us also, I don't really have hard feelings toward them. Prior to the war dec I had the feeling of alliance with -V-, and saw them in action many times. -V- were allies, LV was a group that lived south of us who we went to help out from time to time.)
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Unbeliever Kresmoreen
Pro Valde Justicia
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Posted - 2007.02.12 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson I just wanted to state for the record that KOS is still in this fight despite the lowly chatter we receive from our rivals in 0.0
ITS TIME
oh...and I bet LV is so sure they will win....just as sure as RA was beaten and Cache was safe....eh boys? I'm sure we all remember when that was on the threads..
Despite that....GF and GL to all
Was in KOS for a couple of months in CMVK.. Even as a relative noob to 0.0 alliances, glaring (why the hell do RA have a POS in one of our freaking station systems still?) questions tended to come up, often. Happily let them plex their hearts out, roam around KOS space.
Your alliance failures were yours, not LV/Vs. Your smack is not only misplaced, but downright wrong. I'm sure you don't see it, though. Yeah, RAGOON are awesome friends! Convenience is such a wonderful thing. If you handed me a 30bil station, i'd probably invite you over for dinner at least once .
Ah well, good luck proving ineffectual again .
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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.02.12 13:35:00 -
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cleaned out the off topic posts, please keep the dev misconduct out of this thread.
- Thanks Hutch. ____
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Founder Meo
Gallente Dragons Of Redemption Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.12 21:47:00 -
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so basically all the KOS people are blaming the betrayal on LV i find that interesting as it was your space to defend. you can blame your allies all you want but when all is said and done its still your space, And your right, nay privlidge to die with it. if you had held the line to maybe LV finished the titan -V- wouldve takin longer to fall and parhaps we wouldve held on for longer .... but thats all in the past, we'll fight against you in the upcoming conflict and then we'll see whos the coward. i cant help but wonder that if BoB and LV do win will you nap with them as well ? because i'm sure that would cement the reputation that youve gathered. ----------------------------------------------- -Who would bring a charge against God's elect ? it is God who justifies- Romans 8:33 |
APEXrevived
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.13 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Emrod
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Emrod Lv flamming again...
I begin to think its their only defensive weapon they have agains all of us!
Useless too...
Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ?
Just flamme in a treadh...its sad.
For the Kos, dont give up the figth yarrrrr
What you have without RA and the rest of your slavers ? How can you compare LV (even Shinra alone) and TCF ?
TCF history is full of losses and only victories you can claim were driven by other entities.
LV pilots are veterans, pilots that accomplished many challenges in 0.0. You better start doing something interesting on your own before coming to open your mouth.
Your banner fits you well, no facts and proof but a lot of blabla. See you in some monthes. We will show you how weak you are
Hey Fire Hawk, i gonna admit i waiting a answer of you here. Yup, we gonna see in the next month who gonna stand or die.
Good luck o7
the only way it'll take a month is if the anti-bob coalition falls apart. you seriously think that it will take only a month to bring bob down? i realize I'm asking a legitimate question in a completely flaming thread. but ahh well.
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.13 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: James Snowscoran on 13/02/2007 01:03:44
Originally by: Zoltaris
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Zoltaris
Originally by: Crellion No supposition TFC legged it when we were spanking RA all over the South and never looked south again till the majority of -v- pvp corps had moved on and RA had become RAGOON... you lot do seem to be BANDWAGONeers with little remorse...
Its TCF, not TFC
And btw, TCF didn't exist back then
Yes it was Section 13 or something no?
Section 13 is a corporation, not an alliance, they are part of TCF now, however
I remember fighting FFA (French Force Alliance) in Curse before they left along with Section XIII (who were part of RA) to form TCF and carve a home in the north. Prior to this XIII and the FFA corps had been flying together a while and shared a channel for cooperation. I know pretty much all the corps from FFA are in TCF now (some have merged, but you get the idea), but I remember being surprised when TCF returned to Curse that it was so big. Afaik FFA plus XIII was a lot smaller than it is now, but I don't know if that's because they've taken in new corps or just increased the numbers of the already existing ones. -----
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Founder Meo
Gallente Dragons Of Redemption Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.13 01:14:00 -
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i honestly doubt that Bob will fall quite so quickly when all is said and done they are great PVP'ers and there logistics system isn't bad as well, and plus they've set up what you people refer as bob pets that will act as a buffer against any coordinated attack allowing Bob to coordinate there defenses whilst allowing there home systems to remain unhindered and above all lucrative. but what you have to remember is that Bob is highly compartmentalized they don't have giant gank armadas wheres it turns into a giant free for all, they have small to medium fleets, that are assigned a task and a purpose with an objective. they are efficient. ----------------------------------------------- -Who would bring a charge against God's elect ? it is God who justifies- Romans 8:33 |
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