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KodiakR6
Nucleotide
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Posted - 2016.05.29 17:41:42 -
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First of all, I am a US Army Colonel soon to be promoted to a 2-star general. No joke. I say this because what I've noticed in gunnery and PvP is, that the new WAS formula for hitting targets IS NOT A REAL WORLD SIMULATION.
IF DEV's need to contact me directly, I can give my credentials and talk personally, FYI.
In-game it appears to be virtually impossible, as far as I can tell, to miss your targets until the fall off range is exceeded with projective weapons.
This DOES NOT REFLECT REAL-WORLD performance and conditions.
Please change this - there's no way that anyone can hit 100% of the time in Real Life, so please make the war/fighting dynamics as close to real as possible.
Thank you. |
Kiddoomer
Deep Space Exploitation
Federal United Battalion of Armed Renegades
118
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Posted - 2016.05.29 17:49:56 -
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There's a reason that there is different kinds of hits : glancing, wrecking, missed and scratching.
Even if it's totally RNG.
P.S.: EVE online is not a simulator by any remotely kind of means
In the name of Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen :
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc.
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
771
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Posted - 2016.05.29 17:55:27 -
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CCP trolling the US Army... good job CCP!!
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
66
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:09:36 -
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First and foremost, almost nothing in a PC game will have real world physics. This is done for balance issues, not because the devs dont understand how real life physics work.
Example. A ship in eve going 1KM/sec is only going 2236 MPH or mach 3. For a civilization that is not only capable of space travel but FTL travel you would think they could reach sublight speeds better than what earth achieved in 1952 especially considering they were descendants of earth.
Example #2: Explosion velocity of missiles. Explosion velocity of rockets are a mere 150 m/s . Explosion velocity of most common explosives exceeds 5000 m/s about 36 times faster. But slowing missiles explosion rates was a way to balance them. Technically, no ship in game could outrun the explosion velocity of even the most basic explosives. Also missiles should be way more powerful than guns because you can fit much larger warheads on them. If they used real world physics, missiles would out dps everything by a large margin and the game would be boring.
Also, you dont have a 100% chance even in optimal. Chance to hit is largely based on ability to track the target. Optimal and falloff mostly control the effectiveness of the hit. Projectile weapons have excellent tracking but are very short range. Also again we are thousands of years in the future. It would only be logical to assume that they have advanced tracking computers. They could just make us miss more and faster cycle( so same dps) but really that would only be for cosmetic affects. Also they are tracking large targets. A frigate has a sig radius of around 40 m. Thats 120 feet. Its like tracking a 747 moving at mach 1-6 at distances of 1 KM plus. Its not that difficult to track.
As a last note, you should familiarize yourself with the aegis combat system on aegis class destroyers( thats real life not in game). It has excellent tracking of fast moving smallish targets. Imagine a couple of thousand of years of improvements on that system. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
2885
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:09:38 -
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KodiakR6 wrote:First of all, I am a US Army Colonel soon to be promoted to a 2-star general. No joke. I say this because what I've noticed in gunnery and PvP is, that the new WAS formula for hitting targets IS NOT A REAL WORLD SIMULATION.
IF DEV's need to contact me directly, I can give my credentials and talk personally, FYI.
In-game it appears to be virtually impossible, as far as I can tell, to miss your targets until the fall off range is exceeded with projective weapons.
This DOES NOT REFLECT REAL-WORLD performance and conditions.
Please change this - there's no way that anyone can hit 100% of the time in Real Life, so please make the war/fighting dynamics as close to real as possible.
Thank you.
It's not meant to be realistic. It's meant to be functional.
Also, I can assure you it is totally possible in game to get misses with any gun system way before you get out of falloff. In fact, even in optimal you can get misses. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12178
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:10:38 -
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KodiakR6 wrote:First of all, I am a US Army Colonel soon to be promoted to a 2-star general. No joke. I say this because what I've noticed in gunnery and PvP is, that the new WAS formula for hitting targets IS NOT A REAL WORLD SIMULATION.
IF DEV's need to contact me directly, I can give my credentials and talk personally, FYI.
In-game it appears to be virtually impossible, as far as I can tell, to miss your targets until the fall off range is exceeded with projective weapons.
This DOES NOT REFLECT REAL-WORLD performance and conditions.
Please change this - there's no way that anyone can hit 100% of the time in Real Life, so please make the war/fighting dynamics as close to real as possible.
Thank you.
What absolute poppycock. Why is your background important, as it has no bearing on EVE (unless you are a space Captain)?
I am an astronaut, currently en route to Mars on a top secret mission, so therefore CCP should change the 'space submarines simulator' aspect of the game, as that is arguably far more unrealistic than the accuracy formula which you mention.
I can provide pictures of deep space should you need photographic evidence.
8/10 for actually getting me to waste several dozen characters
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
245
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:15:46 -
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Bumblefck wrote:KodiakR6 wrote:First of all, I am a US Army Colonel soon to be promoted to a 2-star general. No joke. I say this because what I've noticed in gunnery and PvP is, that the new WAS formula for hitting targets IS NOT A REAL WORLD SIMULATION.
IF DEV's need to contact me directly, I can give my credentials and talk personally, FYI.
In-game it appears to be virtually impossible, as far as I can tell, to miss your targets until the fall off range is exceeded with projective weapons.
This DOES NOT REFLECT REAL-WORLD performance and conditions.
Please change this - there's no way that anyone can hit 100% of the time in Real Life, so please make the war/fighting dynamics as close to real as possible.
Thank you. What absolute poppycock. Why is your background important, as it has no bearing on EVE (unless you are a space Captain)? I am an astronaut, currently en route to Mars on a top secret mission, so therefore CCP should change the 'space submarines simulator' aspect of the game, as that is arguably far more unrealistic than the accuracy formula which you mention. I can provide pictures of deep space should you need photographic evidence. 8/10 for actually getting me to waste several dozen characters
In that he was victorious.
Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!
Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)
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Zirashi
Cyclical Destruction
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:18:46 -
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I love how people seem to be taking this guy seriously... |
Trader20
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
88
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:24:35 -
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Sounds like you made a thread just to tell people your in the army........golf clap  |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
2885
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:26:02 -
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Zirashi wrote:I love how people seem to be taking this guy seriously...
The line between an idiot who think he is right and a creative troll is really thin. Some bait have to be taken just in case... |
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Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
394
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:38:23 -
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Hey just be happy, you're in the US Army and actually hitting what you aim for (for once)  |
Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
246
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:39:58 -
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So army personnel are the new vegans?
This might be a troll, but we have all seen those posts where the person starts by telling everyone they are in the army. Just something I've found funny over the years of interacting with the EvE community. |
Trader20
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
88
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:43:22 -
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Maekchu wrote:So army personnel are the new vegans?
This might be a troll, but we have all seen those posts where the person starts by telling everyone they are in the army. Just something I've found funny over the years of interacting with the EvE community.
Lol like that joke, how do you know someone is a vegan?
Don't worry they'll tell you. |
Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
310
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:50:45 -
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If there is a bird colonel in the US Arny that makes threads like this then thank God for the Marines.
Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
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Sustrai Aditua
Irubo Kovu
240
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:55:39 -
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Weeall, your credentials and all considered, in a world of ray guns with no way to really establish a hit/miss ratio, in order to make each race's main weapons comparable in capability - so not one has a significant advantage, and therefore becomes the only race anyone will play...certain liberties must be taken.
If we start getting all real and stuff then we can just count out warp drives. You'd roll a toon, set it off on a trip to Jita...have your wife/husband on the ship, raise kids to adulthood, die of old age, and have their children's children arrive.... This of course wouldn't really appeal to the attention spans of the average gamer.
I could go into the size of stations in relation to how many ships are "parked" in them...the list is rather lengthy. Take it from an old, retired senior NCO...suspend belief. Play along. It's a game - after all.
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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W33b3l
Conquest and Kittens
100
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Posted - 2016.05.29 18:57:13 -
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Full bird to two stars? Man what you do to skip a rank and still have time to play video games?
Also... Its a video game not a flight sim so.
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Xayder
Infinitum Cartel
Wolf Pack .
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Posted - 2016.05.29 19:02:16 -
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KodiakR6 wrote:First of all, I am a US Army Colonel soon to be promoted to a 2-star general. .
stopped reading just there
I don't always post, But when i post I do it with my main
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16026
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Posted - 2016.05.29 19:07:55 -
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Hold the press!
You mean our Imortal Internet knifefighting space submarine pilot agressivly filing spreadsheet game dose not reflect irl in some way!?
We must get to the bottom of this immediatly!.
Better the Devil you know.
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Trader20
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
91
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Posted - 2016.05.29 19:08:30 -
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Just putting it out there but I can run the mile in 5 mins so that makes me qualified to talk about an ecm fix. Wait no one cares? |
Sustrai Aditua
Irubo Kovu
245
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Posted - 2016.05.29 21:51:11 -
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Well, that's great. Leadership is in good hands. He's slam dunked on his original post, so he erases it, changes the subject line and accuses everyone of being rude for being truthful.
It's more rude to present yourself as an authority, then try to slip bovine scatology by as though it's fact, than it is to react to that attempt in an outraged and inflamed fashion. Frankly, my response to the O-OP was quite measured and polite considering the questionable character of the poster obviated by his/her own words.
Nice try. No cigar. Fortunately the original post remains in the form of QUOTE.
TYVM. Have a nice day!
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2016.05.29 21:53:52 -
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"If you disagree with my opinion, I'll just stick my fingers in my ears and scream LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!"
Yeah, that is indeed a very mature thing to do :D |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
470
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Posted - 2016.05.29 22:00:52 -
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This is the original post for anyone interested:
http://eve-search.com/thread/483098-1
Soon to be 2-star General with time of their hands to complain about the physics of a computer game. The mighty in society, really are no different it seems. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
10284
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Posted - 2016.05.29 22:49:00 -
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KodiakR6 wrote:Funny thing is, what I said is true on all fronts - I understand the immaturity of most players - its common for kids to act this way actually. It's also common for kids to delete their OP and run away to hide from all the people that disagree with their stupid post.
Kettle...pot...you know the rest.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26183
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Posted - 2016.05.29 23:02:21 -
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KodiakR6 wrote:First of all, I am a US Army Colonel soon to be promoted to a 2-star general. Kindly stop asking me to accept you as a skype contact.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Pix Severus
Empty You
4592
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Posted - 2016.05.29 23:05:41 -
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Looks like this 2-star general just got outranked by a bunch of 5-star forum warriors.
I know who I'll be saluting.
-ì-ä-à -£-à+¦-äGêâ-Ç
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1369
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Posted - 2016.05.29 23:27:16 -
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I am shocked and appalled.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Morgan Agrivar
Peace.Keepers
337
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Posted - 2016.05.30 00:09:06 -
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OP isn't as hardcore as me. I served in two branches of the US military. Boo-yeah!
And besides, with my military experience, I have always found that military officers are egotistical and arrogant individuals who would ruin an enlisted man's career over their deflated ego.
"Don't call me sir, I work for a living." - Chief Petty Officer to me when I called him sir my first day
This would cure me of the fear...
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Giaus Felix
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
147
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Posted - 2016.05.30 00:15:52 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:I have always found that military officers are egotistical and arrogant individuals who would ruin an enlisted man's career over their deflated ego. That's true of most, the decent ruperts tend to be those who work their way up through the ranks.
Quote:"Don't call me sir, I work for a living." - Chief Petty Officer to me when I called him sir my first day Heh some things are universal, no matter the service branch or the nation.
I am Ralph's junk DNA.
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Sustrai Aditua
Irubo Kovu
248
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Posted - 2016.05.30 01:37:55 -
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"Don't call me 'sir.' My parents are married." -The way I heard it said-
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
3662
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Posted - 2016.05.30 02:21:52 -
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