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Pelea Ming
Space Dandies
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Posted - 2016.10.04 11:32:05 -
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So, I realize this has probably been suggested before (but, tl;dr!)...
I know the recent CSM meeting suggested getting rid of remaps.
Now, I'm not against this idea, per se...
But what about, instead, an option to 'burn' (use) plex to purchase an extra remap instead? (or, if CCP really feels the need for moar RL cash, Aurum?) |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.10.04 12:13:12 -
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Why the **** pay more cash for a game you are already subscribed to?
Remaps have been part of the game and 'free' for 13 years. Paying for them would be nothing but a grubby cash grab, especially with the little gameplay they actually create.
Jus get rid of them (once the issue of the market is resolved), or provide more remaps to Omega clones so remapping can be more frequent.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Pelea Ming
Space Dandies
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Posted - 2016.10.04 17:07:00 -
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there's plenty of Plex available in the in game market for ISK, essentially 'free' beyond playing the gaame to earn it, why not make it an option to use Plex for it? |
Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space No Points Necessary
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Posted - 2016.10.05 07:33:41 -
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Why not have Omega clones start with the optimal attribute layout for training all the skills that the Omega clone can train ? |
Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
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Posted - 2016.10.05 08:31:35 -
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Getting rid of remaps wouldn't be particularly difficult or disruptive. I believe the goal is to get rid of attributes altogether. This would be disruptive since attribute implants play a significant role in the economy. It would tend to level the playing field between PVP pilots, who often fly with empty clones, and PVE pilots who can fly with expensive implants in relative safety. The ability to switch clones at will in citadels has narrowed the gap and I doubt CCP considers this a high priority. |
Pelea Ming
Space Dandies
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Posted - 2016.10.05 08:39:05 -
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as Omega Clones is just a new name for a subscribed acct, they can train ALL skills, so an 'optimized attribute layout' for this already is the default in that such an attribute point spread is by necessity and default simply all attributes at the same value as one another...
(ie, all attributes = about 20 points in each) |
Rivr Luzade
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.10.05 09:16:33 -
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Pelea Ming wrote:there's plenty of Plex available in the in game market for ISK, essentially 'free' beyond playing the gaame to earn it, why not make it an option to use Plex for it? Because PLEX are not "free", they were bought with money. People like you have no shame, do you? It's disgusting to see another post popping up every other day that wants to deteriorate the game with more and more parts of it turned into Pay-or-STFU options.
CCP makes more money with subscriptions than anything else in the game. It should be CCP's priority to make people want to subscribe with awesome activities, content and mechanics. What is CCP's focus instead? Ripping money out of the already paying players for non-services and things that require no effort at all on their part. And disgustingly enough, players demand more of this like monkeys in a Skinner experiment.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Pelea Ming
Space Dandies
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Posted - 2016.10.05 09:21:59 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Pelea Ming wrote:there's plenty of Plex available in the in game market for ISK, essentially 'free' beyond playing the gaame to earn it, why not make it an option to use Plex for it? Because PLEX are not "free", they were bought with money. People like you have no shame, do you? It's disgusting to see another post popping up every other day that wants to deteriorate the game with more and more parts of it turned into Pay-or-STFU options. CCP makes more money with subscriptions than anything else in the game. It should be CCP's priority to make people want to subscribe with awesome activities, content and mechanics. What is CCP's focus instead? Ripping money out of the already paying players for non-services and things that require no effort at all on their part. And disgustingly enough, players demand more of this like monkeys in a Skinner experiment.
pay or stfu? This would actually STIMULATE the in game economy, by providing yet another reason to buy those in game plex, thus making those people who paid RL money for them even happier by, long term, earning them more isk per plex then they get now!
I honestly don't mind being trolled, which you are rather obviously doing, but could you actually at least pretend to have some sort of native level of intelligence when you do so, and not blaat (like a sheep) about obviously incorrect and made up 'facts'? You, sir, are now yet another member of my 'ijit' (block) list! |
Rivr Luzade
Viziam Amarr Empire
2763
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Posted - 2016.10.05 09:29:01 -
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Pelea Ming wrote:I honestly don't mind being trolled, which you are rather obviously doing, but could you actually at least pretend to have some sort of native level of intelligence when you do so, and not blaat (like a sheep) about obviously incorrect and made up 'facts'? You, sir, are now yet another member of my 'ijit' (block) list! You stimulate the ingame economy by turning a mechanic that is now included in the subscription into an option that you can only use with paying more RL money in addition to the subscription. It does not matter if you buy a PLEX for ISK, this PLEX had to be bought with RL money in the first place.
If you think I am trolling you, you are even worse than a monkey in the skinner box. However, rejoice, this is exactly the direction CCP is going into. They even hinted the possibility of more Clone States in the CSM summit, for which such a Pay or STFU option would be a perfect addition. You want hard facts that CCP goes into that direction? Content Packs for 5 Dollar/Euro for some worthless ingame items and more extra trail days. You can now pay for the trail or soon free to play mode.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
2248
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Posted - 2016.10.05 11:51:53 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Why the **** pay more cash for a game you are already subscribed to?
Remaps have been part of the game and 'free' for 13 years. Paying for them would be nothing but a grubby cash grab, especially with the little gameplay they actually create.
Jus get rid of them (once the issue of the market is resolved), or provide more remaps to Omega clones so remapping can be more frequent.
Remaps aren't original issue. Your race and blood line determined your stats. You were stuck with them. You used to be able to train 'training skills' and 'advanced training skills', but other than that, you were stuck with your base attributes. I trained all of my leadership skills before remaps with a charisma of 8. I'm not complaining, I'm just stating facts - that's just the way the game worked at the time.
Just pointing out that attributes and SP accumulation has been improved may times over since the beginning. Base SP have been raised several times for new characters. Training skills were removed and replaced with a lump sum. Remaps were added. Bonus remaps have been handed out now and again. Through all of this gifting by CCP there has been a constant and growing whine fest that skilling is just toodamndifficult and 'needs improved'. This is all aside from the fact that it's the only MMO that doesn't require grinding to improve skills. You can actually be in the bathroom making a deposit while not logged into the game and your SP are still climbing.
And here we are again just a few months after skill injectors were introduced at the dawn of the age of the alpha clone and there are still selfentitledassholes looking for more. If there were ever a group of whineybitchplayers that CCP should turn a blind eye toward - itwouldbe these ninnies.
I need a new keyboard, myfuckingspacebar isn't workingtowell. |
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Pelea Ming
Space Dandies
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Posted - 2016.10.05 12:16:54 -
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exactly. I don't think we should just be handed the game on a silver platter, hence my suggestion of being able to buy remaps with plex, or some variation thereof. |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
2248
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Posted - 2016.10.05 13:21:55 -
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Pelea Ming wrote:exactly. I don't think we should just be handed the game on a silver platter, hence my suggestion of being able to buy remaps with plex, or some variation thereof.
I think you're missing my high level point. Gaining Sp is ultra efficient compared to years ago. It's ultra easy. It's ultra fast. If you want to pay stuff for more SP - buy injectors.
I'm putting you in the "This gold brick you gave me is kind of heavy" complainer category. Accept how it works and be happy you're playing probably the easiest game ever as far as acquiring abilities goes. Be happy and thankful with what you have and leave the whole skilling thing alone. No one outside of eve has had it so good and inside of eve it's easy cheesey compared to the bad old days.
TL/DR STFU about making skill acquisition 'better'. It's already on a silver patter. |
Pelea Ming
Space Dandies
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Posted - 2016.10.05 13:40:54 -
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so just because your content with the current system, you don't think that there's room for more options to it?
Perhaps you should put yourself in that category. |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
2248
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Posted - 2016.10.05 13:48:12 -
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Pelea Ming wrote:so just because your content with the current system, you don't think that there's room for more options to it?
Perhaps you should put yourself in that category.
No, I'm saying CCP has improved how SP work almost annually. It's the single most improved part of the game. FFS - for isk you can take a brand new character to completely trained if you want.
I'm saying quite a bit has already been done, it's grind and effort free and enough is enough. I'm saying I'd rather have CCP spend coding time on features and mechanics that improve game play. I'm saying adding a way to purchase remaps with isk is redundant to injectors. I'm saying YOU should find something else to complain about.
There isn't any more reasonable room for more options. That was surpassed via injectors and then CCP doubled down on that with alpha clones. This non game play mechanic has already been nuked from orbit. It should be over. Done. Finished. |
Pelea Ming
Space Dandies
345
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Posted - 2016.10.05 16:00:35 -
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I should find something else to complain about? I'm here, making a suggestion for an idea that may be worth considering adding a feature to the game.
In fact, YOU are the one complaining... about me.
So, please, get off the high horse, take your personal aggrandizments elsewhere, and stfu if you can't contribute to the topic, rather then insulting and verbally abusing me.
yet ANOTHER one for the ijit list! |
Pelea Ming
Space Dandies
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Posted - 2016.10.05 16:01:50 -
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As for why I feel that this IS a good option....
Remaps, on average, give you an extra 2 days over 30 days of training time. This is VASTLY different then the approx. 10 days of training time that a 500k SP injector covers. |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
846
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Posted - 2016.10.05 18:40:53 -
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No bs....clicked on link and says not available in Japan and is written in English (ccp quite skilled at this, their japanese IP filtering is on the ball most times lol, not the first time I get special oh in japan notifications) .
Part of me thinks that funny as hell since its the only thing written in English on the whole page.
Part of that has me go....hey CCP why not in Japan? Nexon snafu's?
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Pelea Ming
Space Dandies
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Posted - 2016.10.05 19:22:05 -
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lulz |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
846
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Posted - 2016.10.05 19:46:05 -
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think thats funny, I just double checked. I can't buy skill extractors from the account management site either. Odd that....cba to see if vpn would bypass. As I recall ccp locked down the main account to Japan mode. I am just happy its still in english at this point. Have another account oddly enough that works like a plain old US account. |
Pelea Ming
Space Dandies
346
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Posted - 2016.10.05 20:01:41 -
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I think they're shutting them all down till they revamp them to fit with clone states. |
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